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RawAlex 09-16-2004 05:57 PM

http://drudgereport.com/cbsd3.htm

Appears the public is voting with the remote control, moving away from Rather's "opinion based news" and moving on more to straight new like ABC.

Funny to think that Rather could get blown off about something that should be taking down Bush. Amazing spin from the republican party to make the memo the issue, not the fact that Bush shirked on his duty.

Alex

Buff 09-16-2004 06:07 PM

Alex, Rather deserves to be destroyed for running fake documents.

You can't run a story using fake documents as a source and then say that what's in the fake documents is more important than the fact that the documents are fake.

Why don't the Dems stick to the issues that show what a worthless pile of shit Bush is? There's the $2.4 Trillion budget (unjustifiable), enormous deficits, war mistakes, no bin Laden, blatant vote buying via socialist economic policies ($400 billion for senior drugs, steel tariffs), unsecure borders with 3 million Mexicans projected to cross illegally this year alone....

That the Dems would stoop to faking documents in a race against a total disaster is insane.

Everyone knows Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and got special treatment. What the Dems should stick to is showing all the ways he's been a failure in office. If you need help, just go to the libertarian website lewrockwell.com and read about what people who understand economics think of the idiot.

RawAlex 09-16-2004 06:56 PM

Oh yeah, CBS (and especially Rather as their public face) has made a HUGE error. But the story is bigger, because the release of these documents has served to muddy the waters, to create a magicians flash away from the issue so that you instead are more interested in how stupid CBS looks, rather than how Bush avoided his duty. Now the duty is not an issue at all... some fake document is the issue - the public quickly forgets what it is all about.

I agree, the dems really do need to step up the attacks on Bush's record on things like jobs, the whole WMD issue, Enron, halibutron, and all those issues. The net loss of jobs over 4 years is an issue that hits home with the millions who no longer have work.

"Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?"

Most people will say no.

Alex

SykkBoy 09-16-2004 09:30 PM

amazing
the dems are having it handed to them on a silver platter and they don't seem to want it.......

Rolo 09-17-2004 06:10 AM

Yes, its amazing... kinda makes you think, if Kerry would be able to do anything as President in international politics, where he would meet people many times more tactical, wise etc. than Bush. Way too much anti-bush rhetoric, when there are so many political issues where Bush would loose votes - Democrates should have taken some anger management classes, before starting their campaign, so they could have gotten all of that frustration out of their system.

Go after the ball, not the man! Thats how you win the game!

Evil Chris 09-17-2004 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rolo@Sep 17 2004, 06:11 AM
Go after the ball, not the man! Thats how you win the game!
<_< Go after the man with the ball.

Mike AI 09-17-2004 03:32 PM

Rather has a track record, this is not an isolated incident.

Bush has signed the freedom of information papers to allow release of all documents pertaining to his service. The Pentagon is the one dropping the ball getting things found and released.

Kerry has NOT signed the paperwork, and only released documents he CHOOSE to release.

I wish we would move on from the Vietnam things, I am tired of it....

I look forward to the day it no longer haunts our Nation.

Evil Chris 09-17-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 17 2004, 03:33 PM
I wish we would move on from the Vietnam things, I am tired of it....

I look forward to the day it no longer haunts our Nation.

I agree with you Mike.
However once those go away, there will be other ghosts to contend with.
*shrug*

Mike AI 09-17-2004 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris+Sep 17 2004, 02:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Sep 17 2004, 02:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mike AI@Sep 17 2004, 03:33 PM
I wish we would move on from the Vietnam things, I am tired of it....

I look forward to the day it no longer haunts our Nation.

I agree with you Mike.
However once those go away, there will be other ghosts to contend with.
*shrug* [/b][/quote]
True. I would prefer to focus on the world as it is, and will be then the past. The dynamics of the world have changed a lot since Vietnam.

Rolo 09-17-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris@Sep 17 2004, 11:21 AM
<_< Go after the man with the ball.
While this is true in many situations, then I do not think Democrates should be even thinking about the man - they need to go cold turkey, and only focus on the ball... their anti-bush rhetoric is so bad, that I´m sure we will see an increase in suicides, if Bush wins the elections.

Personally I think we should make a "Oprano Suicide Watch" right after the election, where the anti-bush supporters check in once a day, and share their toughts, while others try and give them hope, that its only 4 more years :awinky:

RawAlex 09-17-2004 08:12 PM

Rolo, you won't need it. Give Bush a second term and leave Ashcroft in place, and the online porn industry will be swept away so fast, that we won't need a chat board.

The setup is there - the execution (like the extra national guard callups) happens right AFTER you get tricked into voting for him again.

Alex

Rolo 09-18-2004 07:30 AM

Whoever wins the election will have an impact online porn - I´m not sure Kerry will stop the things already started by Bush - Kerry might be a bit more relaxed, but the change is comming, because every politicians wetdream is control/power... and Porn finds itself in the spotlight (sex sells) - no matter who is president.

I´m not saying Kerry is a "bad" choice as Bush, but I´m not sure we will witness anything positive, other than a "slower" assault on porn - but its still comming...

"Constant Care" is needed in anykind of business, and I´m taking care of business - no matter who wins the election.

Peaches 09-18-2004 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Sep 17 2004, 03:33 PM
Rather has a track record, this is not an isolated incident.
"Kenneth, what is the frequency?"

:lol:


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