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pushpills 07-22-2004 11:39 PM

http://www.smartestsearch.com/art/hct1.jpg


I need to do a different pic of me, but all in all, thats pretty much the new card.

Wutcha think?

XXXPhoto 07-23-2004 12:19 AM

Steve,

Not sure if you were looking for serious responses or not but will give ya my take for what it's worth...

It looks like something made by a guy who knows a few tricks in photoshop on his home computer. Which I'm guessing is what it is really... Perhaps it's just the compression, but the image and text combine for a really bad looking business card... Yellow on yellow doesn't work. Plus in color theory, yellow equates to 'cheap/bargin' products.

I see you using the seascape/sunset to go along with your 'Horizon Computer Tech' theme, but personally think some line art would be better suited to this purpose. The image you have there makes me think of shady travel agents card rather than marketing services or computer tech...

As this is a business card, again IMO, a gmail email addy doesn't instill much confidence. Having a website url, even if it's a basic onepager with contact info will go alot further in creating a positive image in prospective clients eyes.

All that said, putting your pic on your card is a good thing providing you follow it up with professional attitude. Folks get home and are flipping through cards after show, seeing your image can jog their memory who card belongs to... up to you what kind of memory is jogged... ;)

gonzo 07-23-2004 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Jul 22 2004, 11:20 PM
Steve,

Not sure if you were looking for serious responses or not but will give ya my take for what it's worth...

It looks like something made by a guy who knows a few tricks in photoshop on his home computer. Which I'm guessing is what it is really... Perhaps it's just the compression, but the image and text combine for a really bad looking business card... Yellow on yellow doesn't work. Plus in color theory, yellow equates to 'cheap/bargin' products.

I see you using the seascape/sunset to go along with your 'Horizon Computer Tech' theme, but personally think some line art would be better suited to this purpose. The image you have there makes me think of shady travel agents card rather than marketing services or computer tech...

As this is a business card, again IMO, a gmail email addy doesn't instill much confidence. Having a website url, even if it's a basic onepager with contact info will go alot further in creating a positive image in prospective clients eyes.

All that said, putting your pic on your card is a good thing providing you follow it up with professional attitude. Folks get home and are flipping through cards after show, seeing your image can jog their memory who card belongs to... up to you what kind of memory is jogged... ;)

Nice advice!

Vick 07-23-2004 12:35 AM

and here I was going to say I saw that phone number on a bathroom wall in a gay men's club

Not that there's anything wrong with that




Let Mark be serious and give good advice, I'm a clown

Well that and I don't know if I'd include board names on a card

pushpills 07-23-2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPhoto@Jul 22 2004, 10:20 PM
Steve,

Not sure if you were looking for serious responses or not but will give ya my take for what it's worth...

It looks like something made by a guy who knows a few tricks in photoshop on his home computer. Which I'm guessing is what it is really... Perhaps it's just the compression, but the image and text combine for a really bad looking business card... Yellow on yellow doesn't work. Plus in color theory, yellow equates to 'cheap/bargin' products.

I see you using the seascape/sunset to go along with your 'Horizon Computer Tech' theme, but personally think some line art would be better suited to this purpose. The image you have there makes me think of shady travel agents card rather than marketing services or computer tech...

As this is a business card, again IMO, a gmail email addy doesn't instill much confidence. Having a website url, even if it's a basic onepager with contact info will go alot further in creating a positive image in prospective clients eyes.

All that said, putting your pic on your card is a good thing providing you follow it up with professional attitude. Folks get home and are flipping through cards after show, seeing your image can jog their memory who card belongs to... up to you what kind of memory is jogged... ;)

good points.

yea, the scene is for the horizon tech. its actually an upside down horizon.

i kinda like the gmail addy....i trust their servers even more than mine. its up to debate.

The yellow text is to go with the horizon theme.

i need a new pic though, i'll work on that. but, what i've got in works for webmasters, i can't post the url yet, it's not ready....so I don't know what to do on that part.


I can rework any of that stuff....it's all template stuff.


I was going to use a horizon pic from chicago but couldnt fine a decent one that was high enoug quality.




Thanks for the input, I always apprecaite decent suggestions and opinions. :okthumb:

RawAlex 07-23-2004 12:58 AM

I trust hotmail - but I would never put a hotmail address on a business card. That is the equivilant of your mailing address being "table 3 at denny's".

The colors do not compliment each other, and in a four color printing process, the cards would not look good. I see more web people using big fonts for information on cars, making it hard to read and adding clutter to the card.

My suggestion? move the horizon of the sunrise / sunset up a little more, get yourself some more blue area. Darken the blue area some... perhpas even fade it to black at the bottom of the card. You can put much more information and use a smaller font on black and still have the info be clear.

Search google for "color wheel" and "complimentary colors", that will help you get the fonts into decent colors and be more clear.

Alex

Hell Puppy 07-23-2004 01:04 AM

I've give a serious reply...a little business card 101.

You're not going to impress anyone or make a sale with a business card. You do that with what you say and how you say it. The business card is simply so they know how to get in touch with you later.

With that said, the business card should first and foremost do it's job and remind them of who you are and how to get in touch with you. The text and fonts should be easily readable and uncluttered. Yellow against a sunset isn't readable. Even though the best business card wont make you a sale on it's own, a truly bad one does present a bad company image and might cost you one.

The other practical design consideration is whether you want your business card to be easily scanned. There's both an up and a downside... Some people like to scan them into their PDAs, this is desirable. At the same time, lots of companies have hot girls on the floor to do nothing but grab as many business cards as they can so they scan them back at the office to build marketing lists and cold call your ass. This is not so desirable to most.

If you want your card easily scanned, it's best to stick with a classic black on white design. You'll never see anyone raise an eyebrow at a good simple black on white raise print design on a high quality card stock. It's classy and elegant and will never go out of style. If you want it to be a pain in the ass to scan go with a multicolor background or photocard. The more color change there is on the background, the tougher it is on the scanner.

Anyone who has one of my cards knows which my preference is in regards to having my card scanned....heheheheh.

pushpills 07-23-2004 01:13 AM

:okthumb: intersting points, the last 2 posts.

I'll think on those, will likely have another one for you to look at.


I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon. I think that will remain the background, but I'll test some others. As far as cold calling, it doesnt matter, they have all spammed me on icq and by referral email by now, so it that should be a small part of it.


I'll throw some new works up over the next couple days.


Thanks guys, I'm glad I posted that. Oprano has always been very considerate and helpful to me. :okthumb:

Sabby 07-23-2004 01:43 AM

Oh I think somethings missing...

You need to put a picture of a red camaro on it. It would be sooo cool.

:okthumb:


Sabby:)

pushpills 07-23-2004 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sabby@Jul 22 2004, 11:44 PM


You need to put a picture of a red camaro on it. It would be sooo cool.

That's not business, that's just something you guys know me by. The camaro will not be on my business card (I don't just give it out to porno people).

Hell Puppy 07-23-2004 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 23 2004, 12:14 AM

I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon.

Your logo should do that.

Spend some money on getting a good logo designed that conveys the image you want so you can use it on website, business cards and anything else you want to brand.

If you have a good logo, designing a business card becomes a snap.

gonzo 07-23-2004 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sabby@Jul 23 2004, 12:44 AM
Oh I think somethings missing...

You need to put a picture of a red camaro on it. It would be sooo cool.

:okthumb:


Sabby:)

You gotta wax it and then its a sweet ride.

gonzo 07-23-2004 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Puppy+Jul 23 2004, 12:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hell Puppy @ Jul 23 2004, 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-pushpills@Jul 23 2004, 12:14 AM

I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon.

Your logo should do that.

Spend some money on getting a good logo designed that conveys the image you want so you can use it on website, business cards and anything else you want to brand.

If you have a good logo, designing a business card becomes a snap. [/b][/quote]
Branding starts with the right concept....then you can expand that concept in conjunction with it.

Kimmy Kim.... thank you for my inspiration.
Dig...Confucy...Brad "Louis Vitton"Shaw and Arlo"Hooper/Toolbar Scammer"

Thanks for the wonderful catch phrases. Im sure you didnt know when you were typing them that youd be eating them on a daily basis.

KC 07-23-2004 03:27 AM

A plain white card with clear black text on it would be much more effective.

A cheap business card is like a cheap suit, you can spot them a mile away.

Almighty Colin 07-23-2004 05:12 AM

My advice is a little different. You might want to see someone about that narcissism. ;-)

HoneyBlond 07-23-2004 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Puppy+Jul 23 2004, 04:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hell Puppy @ Jul 23 2004, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-pushpills@Jul 23 2004, 12:14 AM

I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon.

Your logo should do that.

Spend some money on getting a good logo designed that conveys the image you want so you can use it on website, business cards and anything else you want to brand.

If you have a good logo, designing a business card becomes a snap. [/b][/quote]
Great Advice HP

I'm sorry grogan but that business card is V Ugly, and looks horribly unprofessional.

Simplicity is the essence of good taste, and there have been some good solid suggestions so far in this thread.

:)

Peaches 07-23-2004 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Jul 23 2004, 12:36 AM
Well that and I don't know if I'd include board names on a card
Mine's on my cards :) If I put my real name on them, people would sober up and wonder who the heck gave them the card. :P

sharky 07-23-2004 09:45 AM

Grogan -

gimme a shout on icq. We can help you out. I know you are proud of making your own card, however I agree with the comments here. It just doesn't look professional, and it's hard to read.

There is a Horizon computers here in Tampa.. they use a very similar layout to what you have... however they sell used 486 parts.. the card fits them.

check out

http://www.aaaadultdesign.com/businesscards/

DrGuile 07-23-2004 10:24 AM

Wow, if a 'business' card ever told me that the company was actually just one guy in his basement, this is it.


:okthumb:

Mike AI 07-23-2004 10:50 AM

Steve, get your cards professionally done. It will make a difference.

grimm 07-23-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Puppy+Jul 22 2004, 09:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hell Puppy @ Jul 22 2004, 09:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-pushpills@Jul 23 2004, 12:14 AM

I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon.

Your logo should do that.

Spend some money on getting a good logo designed that conveys the image you want so you can use it on website, business cards and anything else you want to brand.

If you have a good logo, designing a business card becomes a snap. [/b][/quote]
agood cardstock, with pertinant info on it is the way to go. if you want the horizon, why not put it on the website... as for email, get a domain and forward it to your gmail account if you are having server issues.

If you must have the sunset, do something in a neutral color, maybe a blue or red, that fits with the text, and make it a line drawing, not filled in. remember the info you want to push is context. the sale will come from your skills.

However i do like the photo

as it is right now, it kinda reminds me of a real estate agents card, or a strip club managers card;)

grimm 07-23-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 23 2004, 06:51 AM
Steve, get your cards professionally done. It will make a difference.
without a doubt. not too pricey, good work, and who knows, maybe they cn sit down with you and figure out a different way of going about it

Bama 07-23-2004 01:39 PM

That's one hidious looking business card unless you're the sales rep for the tequila sunrise mixer company.

Do yourself a favor and visit Stan over at http://www.adulttradeshowdesign.com/ and have him work you up one then come back and do another poll - I'm willing to bet you'll get a much better response

:bla:

sarettah 07-23-2004 02:11 PM

http://www.cockinpuss.com/bcard.jpg

Vick 07-23-2004 02:13 PM

Keep the business card as it it
Have 25,000 made for a lifetime supply

sarettah 07-23-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Jul 23 2004, 01:14 PM
Keep the business card as it it
Have 25,000 made for a lifetime supply

Ummm Vick....

Did you put an extra couple of zeroes on that number on purpose ? :blink:

Vick 07-23-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah+Jul 23 2004, 01:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Jul 23 2004, 01:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vick@Jul 23 2004, 01:14 PM
Keep the business card as it it
Have 25,000 made for a lifetime supply

Ummm Vick....

Did you put an extra couple of zeroes on that number on purpose ? :blink: [/b][/quote]
he he he
Nope
I think the original business card fits Steve :P



The only thing better would be if the Camero could be on the business/bizness card

Mike AI 07-23-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grimm+Jul 23 2004, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jul 23 2004, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jul 22 2004, 09:58 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-pushpills
Quote:

@Jul 23 2004, 12:14 AM

I think a little branding is important though, and I really like that upsidedown horizon.


Your logo should do that.

Spend some money on getting a good logo designed that conveys the image you want so you can use it on website, business cards and anything else you want to brand.

If you have a good logo, designing a business card becomes a snap.

agood cardstock, with pertinant info on it is the way to go. if you want the horizon, why not put it on the website... as for email, get a domain and forward it to your gmail account if you are having server issues.

If you must have the sunset, do something in a neutral color, maybe a blue or red, that fits with the text, and make it a line drawing, not filled in. remember the info you want to push is context. the sale will come from your skills.

However i do like the photo

as it is right now, it kinda reminds me of a real estate agents card, or a strip club managers card;) [/b][/quote]
Grimm you need to send this kid a bill for consoltation work!

pushpills 07-23-2004 02:44 PM

Hmmm glad I posted it, too hawaiin punch-esqe I take it?


Do you like it any better without the horizon flip?

http://www.smartestsearch.com/art/card2.jpg



orig:

http://www.smartestsearch.com/art/hct1.jpg

pushpills 07-23-2004 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah@Jul 23 2004, 12:12 PM
http://www.cockinpuss.com/bcard.jpg
:D

pushpills 07-23-2004 02:51 PM

I'll probably post a few more over the weekend, might have sharky do it.

DrGuile 07-23-2004 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pushpills@Jul 23 2004, 01:52 PM
I'll probably post a few more over the weekend, might have sharky do it.
For the love of God and all that is post 1997, please have Sharky do it!!!!

Big Chop 07-23-2004 02:59 PM

That background looks like somthing done in Bryce from 98. I'll hook you up if ya want a slick card. You will need to take care of the printing but I'll throw ya the creative fo free. Im not going to put all that watter in that bitch though, I think with biz cards less is more somtimes. :D After work I will put my version up, If ya like it then i will send you a 300 DPI eps, or what ever your printer needs.

Vick 07-23-2004 03:01 PM

No, no, no

the card you have now is perfect

The only thing better would be a card with the Camero

B)

pushpills 07-23-2004 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Jul 23 2004, 01:02 PM
No, no, no

the card you have now is perfect

The only thing better would be a card with the Camero

B)

reverse side?

pushpills 07-23-2004 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Chop@Jul 23 2004, 01:00 PM
That background looks like somthing done in Bryce from 98. I'll hook you up if ya want a slick card. You will need to take care of the printing but I'll throw ya the creative fo free. Im not going to put all that watter in that bitch though, I think with biz cards less is more somtimes. :D After work I will put my version up, If ya like it then i will send you a 300 DPI eps, or what ever your printer needs.
cool, I'll check it out

Mike AI 07-23-2004 03:07 PM

It looks like a card the Moonies or Scientologist would give out. Only theres would be cooler.

Who was the group who castrated themselves, then committed suicide wearing white nikes when the comet came around?? I think they hard cards like this.

Mike AI 07-23-2004 03:09 PM

Ahhhh yes Heaven's Gate..... Marshall Applewhite

That is who designed the cards.

Mike AI 07-23-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 23 2004, 02:10 PM
Ahhhh yes Heaven's Gate..... Marshall Applewhite

That is who designed the cards.


http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/heavgate.htm

DrGuile 07-23-2004 03:12 PM

If there was a way to put an animated gif and some .mod music on there, it would be complete...

Mike AI 07-23-2004 03:13 PM

Ahhh I love the internet

http://www.webcoast.com/heavensgate.com/

http://www.webcoast.com/heavensgate.com/hbhgtd.jpg




http://www.smartestsearch.com/art/hct1.jpg


:yowsa: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Big Chop 07-23-2004 03:21 PM

Well the Biz card im going to throw up is going to be in Flash, Can they print that :rolleyes:

grimm 07-23-2004 03:22 PM

hahaha damn:)


:wnw:

pushpills 07-23-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 23 2004, 01:08 PM

Who was the group who castrated themselves, then committed suicide wearing white nikes when the comet came around?? I think they hard cards like this.

Maybe offering inner peace and a lifetime in space would perk the card up.

pushpills 07-23-2004 03:27 PM

damn, I gotta use their card designer!

Big Chop 07-23-2004 03:32 PM

My Boss, thought that we could incorp a minimum of a 12 piece orchestra in your card some how. I just dont know how the Flash animation/Mp3 compresion would print up. It may be like "Crossing the Streams" and end the world. :yowsa: Maybey you should just hand out Palm's (But for real I'm going to put somthing up for ya after i get home)

sarettah 07-23-2004 03:40 PM

http://www.cockinpuss.com/bcard1.jpg

Mike AI 07-23-2004 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah@Jul 23 2004, 02:41 PM
http://www.cockinpuss.com/bcard1.jpg
HAHAHAHA The Camaro at bottom with the quote is beuatiful!!

Steve, I think you REALLy need to add that to the card!!

pushpills 07-23-2004 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jul 23 2004, 02:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jul 23 2004, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sarettah@Jul 23 2004, 02:41 PM
http://www.cockinpuss.com/bcard1.jpg
HAHAHAHA The Camaro at bottom with the quote is beuatiful!!

Steve, I think you REALLy need to add that to the card!! [/b][/quote]
maybe on the back of the card ill have a notes section with a camaro at the top

DrGuile 07-23-2004 04:04 PM

You should really put 'Designer' on the card with the others, because you have 733t skillz


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