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Mike AI 06-17-2004 11:36 AM

Apparently Hooper is do desperate to get more tool bars installed, he is trying to do it to webmasters from his progam.

Here is a screen cap. Notice how he is trying to pass it off as a windows media update? I wonder what microsoft would think about that?

http://64.226.213.48/temp/quickscam.gif

Edd 06-17-2004 11:38 AM

Things That Make You Go....... COCKSUCKER!!!

mojobill 06-17-2004 11:48 AM

ya.. thats getting slammed pretty hard at the moment, on that OTHER board.....


.....sad....

RawAlex 06-17-2004 11:50 AM

I am surprised the government is on this one - that ain't no freaking media player - it's scumware.

Alex

pushpills 06-17-2004 11:51 AM

Scandelous.


who's his search partner?

chodadog 06-17-2004 12:16 PM

That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. I remember a while ago, MS sued a bunch of spammers for sending out emails with a microsoft.com return address. This is worse, in my opinion.

gonzo 06-17-2004 12:27 PM

Its a feature laden windows upgrade. THey are taking over the internet last Friday....didnt you hear Wiseman bragging in San Diego?

I guess Hooper got bored again and he decided to make some more moeny off of his mule webmasters.

BradShaw 06-17-2004 03:21 PM

Gonzo, are you still looking for work? Send me your resume.


The internet police are hiring!

spanno 06-17-2004 03:41 PM

anyone that uses MSIE deserves a toolbar!

thats my 15cents an install

gonzo 06-17-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 17 2004, 02:29 PM
Gonzo, are you still looking for work? Send me your resume.


The internet police are hiring!

I already do police work.
But you should address that to Mike...he found it not me.
Hows Hoopers cock taste today?

Ive got a job ap in Canada right now....if all goes well Ill be able to tell you about it firsthand!

wiseman 06-17-2004 06:47 PM

We in no way are Chicken of popping our heads up here..
We just don't like it here...
Mike is having fun trying to make things up about us stealing traffic and what have you.
We are stealing nothing from anyone..
Fact of the matter is yes we do have a tool bar which is pretty laid back tool bar.
Fact if you have a problem with the tool bar please lobby your congress.
Other wise we will continue to do buisness as we do..
***Matter of fact is no way in hell are you advertiing this here...***

Aslo we are looking for some more people to send some quantity traffic to.. so let me know!

Vick 06-17-2004 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiseman@Jun 17 2004, 05:55 PM
We in no way are Chicken of popping our heads up here..
We just don't like it here...

That's good as no one cares about you

ah ha ha ha

:D


and from my understanding your toolbar is scumware

Scum is as Scum does

Mike AI 06-17-2004 06:55 PM

Wiseman, nice post but you are wrong.

Gonzo broke down Hooper toolbar with Kevin Mitnick ( maybe you recognize the name) and it was evaluated to be scumware.


Does your toolbar check back to your servers?
Can it be updated with new features on the fly?
Why do you try and trick people into thinking it is a microsoft windows media update?
The screen cap above fake? or were you guys trying to install on webmaster computers? ( fake media update)


Hypothetically, even if your toolbar is not stealing clicks and viewers, it certainly could turn into that pretty quickly and on the fly.

So when you hit a certain amount of installs you flip a swtich and start playing games then.

As far as laws, I have seen Utah's new one. You may want to start geofiltering people from Utah out, because you are breaking the law there.

Other states will follow suit.

masterp74 06-17-2004 07:33 PM

90% of computers don't know crap about their computer. fooling the common folk is just wrong.

cj 06-17-2004 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiseman@Jun 17 2004, 05:55 PM
Aslo we are looking for some more people to send some quantity traffic to.. so let me know!
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

'we are looking for more people to send some quantity traffic to'

LMAO

quantity traffic anyone?!? anyone?!?!

its quantity!!!! you know, the thing people do when they can't do quality!!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


I just found an affiliate of celebrity bling who is installing toolbars ... the traffic is QUANTITY, the email I send him telling him to fuck off will be QUALITY :okthumb:

RawAlex 06-17-2004 07:53 PM

Okay, here is a challenge (and a good business) for anyone inclined:

Write an autodownloading toolbar remover.

Time to go to war. Take the traffic, don't pay for it, and remove the toolbars at the same time.

:agrin:

Alex

cj 06-17-2004 08:08 PM

Gonzo, I think Alex just created a job for Kevin's crew ;-)

Get them to make it and i'll market it packed with all of my sites - buy a membership and we'll clean up your pc for free :yowsa:

the trick is, can he get it microsoft endorsed as the solution for the world's toolbar problems!? :groucho:

Vick 06-17-2004 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cj@Jun 17 2004, 06:56 PM
I just found an affiliate of celebrity bling who is installing toolbars ... the traffic is QUANTITY, the email I send him telling him to fuck off will be QUALITY :okthumb:
Good one CJ


Sweet idea Alex

Mike AI 06-17-2004 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cj@Jun 17 2004, 07:16 PM
Gonzo, I think Alex just created a job for Kevin's crew ;-)

Get them to make it and i'll market it packed with all of my sites - buy a membership and we'll clean up your pc for free :yowsa:

the trick is, can he get it microsoft endorsed as the solution for the world's toolbar problems!? :groucho:


I would distribute this as well!!

Free the Internet!

Peaches 06-17-2004 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by masterp74@Jun 17 2004, 07:41 PM
90% of computers don't know crap about their computer. fooling the common folk is just wrong.
:unsure:

gonzo 06-17-2004 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches+Jun 17 2004, 08:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Jun 17 2004, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--masterp74@Jun 17 2004, 07:41 PM
90% of computers don't know crap about their computer. fooling the common folk is just wrong.
:unsure:[/b][/quote]
...I figured you was going to tell us Hooper was right.

gonzo 06-17-2004 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jun 17 2004, 08:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jun 17 2004, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Jun 17 2004, 07:16 PM
Gonzo, I think Alex just created a job for Kevin's crew ;-)

Get them to make it and i'll market it packed with all of my sites - buy a membership and we'll clean up your pc for free :yowsa:

the trick is, can he get it microsoft endorsed as the solution for the world's toolbar problems!? :groucho:


I would distribute this as well!!

Free the Internet![/b][/quote]
I will see what it I can do... they are motivated to get rid of this shit as much as we are....

I heard an interesting stroy about one of these toolbars with Wiseman lurking wearing that same Quickbucks wifebeater he was in all damn week
[I may be broke and unemployeed but youd think with all that money those boys could get a decent haircut and a change of clothes] I think it was Sykk telling me that he got one of those toolbars but unlike Hoopers there was full instructions on how to remove it...and at the end when it was all gone it gave you a morality message on NOT to surf internet porn again if you didnt want another toolbar.

Or dont go check your quickbucks stats.

Hey Brad...you can pay for all those Louis Vitton purses you had to buy...add your cocksucking buddy Hoopers toolbar on the front of your program.

Hell Puppy 06-17-2004 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 17 2004, 07:01 PM
Okay, here is a challenge (and a good business) for anyone inclined:

Write an autodownloading toolbar remover.

Time to go to war. Take the traffic, don't pay for it, and remove the toolbars at the same time.

:agrin:

Alex

The trace buster buster...


I'm thinking it's time to give Firefox a serious look. This week's release is supposed to be pretty hot, though I haven't tried it yet.

Hell Puppy 06-17-2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiseman@Jun 17 2004, 05:55 PM
We in no way are Chicken of popping our heads up here..
We just don't like it here...
Mike is having fun trying to make things up about us stealing traffic and what have you.
We are stealing nothing from anyone..
Fact of the matter is yes we do have a tool bar which is pretty laid back tool bar.
Fact if you have a problem with the tool bar please lobby your congress.
Other wise we will continue to do buisness as we do..
***Matter of fact is no way in hell are you advertiing this here...***

Aslo we are looking for some more people to send some quantity traffic to.. so let me know!

wiseman....now there's a misnomer if i ever saw one.

dont know you, but based on this message, stupidfuck seems to fit better.

i mean come on, you're caught red handed here, we're not stupid. it's like you farted and the whole room smells like shit and everyone saw you raise up and actually heard you blow the butt bugle. he who denied it, supplied it!

your laid back toolbar is scumware, it's been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

and how the fuck can you deny that download prompt in mike's screenshot is anything but totally misleading?

i dont care what you say, that warm water running down our back that smells like stale coffee and asparagus is NOT rain....

you and your boss are fucking scum who have become so addicted by the almighty dollar that you have lost all sense of right and wrong. you're worse than the common criminal on the street because you already have money and the means to make a more honest living. but instead you fuck up people's computers for a few extra pennies.

it's sad really.



Last edited by Hell Puppy at Jun 17 2004, 09:24 PM

cj 06-17-2004 10:22 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :wnw: :wnw: :wnw:

oh my god that was so spot on

*standing ovation*

Vick 06-17-2004 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Puppy+Jun 17 2004, 09:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hell Puppy @ Jun 17 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wiseman@Jun 17 2004, 05:55 PM
We in no way are Chicken of popping our heads up here..
We just don't like it here...
Mike is having fun trying to make things up about us stealing traffic and what have you.
We are stealing nothing from anyone..
Fact of the matter is yes we do have a tool bar which is pretty laid back tool bar.
Fact if you have a problem with the tool bar please lobby your congress.
Other wise we will continue to do buisness as we do..
***Matter of fact is no way in hell are you advertiing this here...***

Aslo we are looking for some more people to send some quantity traffic to.. so let me know!

wiseman....now there's a misnomer if i ever saw one.

dont know you, but based on this message, stupidfuck seems to fit better.

i mean come on, you're caught red handed here, we're not stupid. it's like you farted and the whole room smells like shit and everyone saw you raise up and actually heard you blow the butt bugle. he who denied it, supplied it!

your laid back toolbar is scumware, it's been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

and how the fuck can you deny that download prompt in mike's screenshot is anything but totally misleading?

i dont care what you say, that warm water running down our back that smells like stale coffee and asparagus is NOT rain....

you and your boss are fucking scum who have become so addicted by the almighty dollar that you have lost all sense of right and wrong. you're worse than the common criminal on the street because you already have money and the means to make a more honest living. but instead you fuck up people's computers for a few extra pennies.

it's sad really.[/b][/quote]
I agree with that post but Funny thing ......

... but we posted things to the same effect about spam and some billing practices about 4 years ago

Hmmmmm

BradShaw 06-18-2004 12:55 AM

Funny, a few of those whinging about toolbars here are the same people looking to have toolbars designed.

Hooper is just ahead of you guys. You have already sold your sould long ago, stop trying to look clean.

Hell Puppy 06-18-2004 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Jun 17 2004, 10:00 PM

I agree with that post but Funny thing ......

... but we posted things to the same effect about spam and some billing practices about 4 years ago

Hmmmmm

The only saving grace is the government moves very slow and doesn't understand the internet.

However, you make a good point. Spam is now so out of control that email is virtually unusable and people are actually wanting the government to get involved and do something about it. And billing has been raped so hard that we're clinging to the ability to sell a user a membership via credit card by the skin of our teeth.

Yet, we as an industry still haven't learned the lesson as we still tolerate fuckers who push the envelope too far instead of sending them out of town tied to the back of the same mule we'd send a kiddie porn peddler out on.

Hell Puppy 06-18-2004 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 18 2004, 12:03 AM
Funny, a few of those whinging about toolbars here are the same people looking to have toolbars designed.

Hooper is just ahead of you guys. You have already sold your sould long ago, stop trying to look clean.

Not like you to be timid Brad, name names....

wiseman 06-18-2004 01:34 AM

I didnt wear a quickbuck shirt the hole time!
And my fat ass wouldnt be caught in a tank top of any sort!!

gonzo 06-18-2004 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 18 2004, 12:03 AM
Funny, a few of those whinging about toolbars here are the same people looking to have toolbars designed.

Hooper is just ahead of you guys. You have already sold your sould long ago, stop trying to look clean.

nah nobody here would copy anyones idea...

Soul_Rebel 06-18-2004 02:01 AM

too risky thing to do its not even funny

Winetalk.com 06-18-2004 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 18 2004, 12:03 AM
Funny, a few of those whinging about toolbars here are the same people looking to have toolbars designed.

Hooper is just ahead of you guys. You have already sold your sould long ago, stop trying to look clean.

Brad, glad to see you follow my foot steps and finally starting traveling, but....I NEVER involved myself with business on vacation, even in 2 mils a montrh years.

go enjoy IOtaly you putz,
Hooper's dick will always be here when you return, carnutto
;-)))

cj 06-18-2004 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wiseman@Jun 18 2004, 12:42 AM
I didnt wear a quickbuck shirt the hole time!
And my fat ass wouldnt be caught in a tank top of any sort!!

of all the things to defend yourself against ........

:rolleyes:

JoesHO 06-18-2004 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 17 2004, 11:29 AM
Gonzo, are you still looking for work? Send me your resume.


The internet police are hiring!

Weasle sucks :rokk:

JoesHO 06-18-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick+Jun 17 2004, 07:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Jun 17 2004, 07:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Hell Puppy@Jun 17 2004, 09:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--wiseman
Quote:

@Jun 17 2004, 05:55 PM
We in no way are Chicken of popping our heads up here..
We just don't like it here...
Mike is having fun trying to make things up about us stealing traffic and what have you.
We are stealing nothing from anyone..
Fact of the matter is yes we do have a tool bar which is pretty laid back tool bar.
Fact if you have a problem with the tool bar please lobby your congress.
Other wise we will continue to do buisness as we do..
***Matter of fact is no way in hell are you advertiing this here...***

Aslo we are looking for some more people to send some quantity traffic to.. so let me know!


wiseman....now there's a misnomer if i ever saw one.

dont know you, but based on this message, stupidfuck seems to fit better.

i mean come on, you're caught red handed here, we're not stupid. it's like you farted and the whole room smells like shit and everyone saw you raise up and actually heard you blow the butt bugle. he who denied it, supplied it!

your laid back toolbar is scumware, it's been proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

and how the fuck can you deny that download prompt in mike's screenshot is anything but totally misleading?

i dont care what you say, that warm water running down our back that smells like stale coffee and asparagus is NOT rain....

you and your boss are fucking scum who have become so addicted by the almighty dollar that you have lost all sense of right and wrong. you're worse than the common criminal on the street because you already have money and the means to make a more honest living. but instead you fuck up people's computers for a few extra pennies.

it's sad really.

I agree with that post but Funny thing ......

... but we posted things to the same effect about spam and some billing practices about 4 years ago

Hmmmmm[/b][/quote]
I am with you a 100% on this one Vick!

sarettah 06-18-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoesHO1+Jun 18 2004, 09:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ Jun 18 2004, 09:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Brad "little weasel" Shaw@Jun 17 2004, 11:29 AM
Gonzo, are you still looking for work? Send me your resume.


The internet police are hiring!

Weasle sucks :rokk:[/b][/quote]
http://www.awrats.com/weaselsignal.jpg

Brad Mitchell 06-18-2004 11:06 AM

All I have to say on the subject is Karma's a bitch, guys.

:nyanya:

Brad

Nickatilynx 06-18-2004 11:56 AM

Look , some of us are lovable rogues , OK? I could market this and get applauded for it ;-)))

And , as a student of history , I look back on the heat I took for allowing members of CONDOM to have console pop ups (shock horror probe) , then for allowing blind links , then for mailing a lil bit......etc etc etc

all the moral majority ( or as I refer to them , "poor people") came out swinging ;-))))

half the people bitching here about hooper's "scumware" will be doing the same thing soon is my guess.

Not saying I think its a great thing or whatever , just stating what history has taught me.

Mike AI 06-18-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jun 18 2004, 11:04 AM
Look , some of us are lovable rogues , OK? I could market this and get applauded for it ;-)))

And , as a student of history , I look back on the heat I took for allowing members of CONDOM to have console pop ups (shock horror probe) , then for allowing blind links , then for mailing a lil bit......etc etc etc

all the moral majority ( or as I refer to them , "poor people") came out swinging ;-))))

half the people bitching here about hooper's "scumware" will be doing the same thing soon is my guess.

Not saying I think its a great thing or whatever , just stating what history has taught me.

The reality is, if the federal gov't does not step in, or some major companies start sueing ( microsoft) it may become a neccessity to create andd distribute scumware just to stay in busniess.

DirectNIC gets at least a dozen e-mail a day dealing with scumware, people are getting redirected all the time.

It is going to be a major issue. I think it is much more invasive then spam and pop-ups ever were.

DrGuile 06-18-2004 12:07 PM

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-523...0.html?tag=e019

Nickatilynx 06-18-2004 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jun 18 2004, 08:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jun 18 2004, 08:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Jun 18 2004, 11:04 AM
Look , some of us are lovable rogues , OK? I could market this and get applauded for it ;-)))

And , as a student of history , I look back on the heat I took for allowing members of CONDOM to have console pop ups (shock horror probe) , then for allowing blind links , then for mailing a lil bit......etc etc etc

all the moral majority ( or as I refer to them , "poor people") came out swinging ;-))))

half the people bitching here about hooper's "scumware" will be doing the same thing soon is my guess.

Not saying I think its a great thing or whatever , just stating what history has taught me.

The reality is, if the federal gov't does not step in, or some major companies start sueing ( microsoft) it may become a neccessity to create andd distribute scumware just to stay in busniess.

DirectNIC gets at least a dozen e-mail a day dealing with scumware, people are getting redirected all the time.

It is going to be a major issue. I think it is much more invasive then spam and pop-ups ever were.[/b][/quote]
I agree Mike , and I see you have already interjected your own caveat

Quote:

it may become a neccessity to create andd distribute scumware just to stay in busniess.

in case YOU have/decide too ;-))))))

gov't or megacorps taking action?

We both know they will take action , BUT by the time they do the cream will have been scooped. Again history shows us this.

gonzo 06-18-2004 12:14 PM

Looks like govt has taken notice....Wiseman was right....

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-22_11-523...0.html?tag=e019

JoesHO 06-18-2004 12:26 PM

What about a class action civil suit? I am sure many people are harmed business wise by these actions.....

cj 06-18-2004 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jun 18 2004, 11:04 AM
Look , some of us are lovable rogues , OK? I could market this and get applauded for it ;-)))

And , as a student of history , I look back on the heat I took for allowing members of CONDOM to have console pop ups (shock horror probe) , then for allowing blind links , then for mailing a lil bit......etc etc etc

all the moral majority ( or as I refer to them , "poor people") came out swinging ;-))))

half the people bitching here about hooper's "scumware" will be doing the same thing soon is my guess.

Not saying I think its a great thing or whatever , just stating what history has taught me.

Nick, notice how few of the webmasters on this board (or any other) *actually* do business with you?

You only get applauded because you are amusing, not for your business ideas.

gonzo 06-18-2004 08:00 PM

Jayman of Netpond said this last week...

...the perfect adult webmaster would have

1. The charm of Nick
2. The tounge of Serge
3. The business sense and integrity of Mike AI

RawAlex 06-18-2004 09:09 PM

4. and a wife like MikeAI. :-)

Alex

Dravyk 06-18-2004 09:22 PM

Just to keep it going ...

5. FM's money
6. RB's looks
7. Shemp's traffic
8. Nick's "lists"

:D

sarettah 06-18-2004 09:58 PM

You too can be a cockholster and have your own toolbar.

http://www.webtoolbars.com/signup.asp

They even have an affiliate program......... :blink:

cj 06-18-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo@Jun 18 2004, 07:08 PM
Jayman of Netpond said this last week...

...the perfect adult webmaster would have

1. The charm of Nick
2. The tounge of Serge
3. The business sense and integrity of Mike AI

:wnw:


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