..and I do mean small.

Like 1 new recipe per day or so. Nothing stolen from other sites though. I would LIKE to do this kinda site, but if I do it for free I will feel bad. lol.
I *love* cooking and trying new stuff out, and if it's good I wouldn't mind saving the recipe up somewhere (might as well make money out of it ;)). :)

Do I have to go 'niche' as well, and do an Atkins diet recipe site, or some other diet site, or gourmet site, or Atkins + otherdiet + gourmet site?

"Today,
an excellent recipe for fried tuna with low carbs, low fat yet excellent taste type shit?"

Do I have to write a recipe book and sell it to some publisher homo?
I'm absolutely totally clueless as how to maximize potential visitors. :)

Anyone got ideas?

very tough....you need a NAME in food circles and you don';t
;-(((

Yeah. Probably very true. Maybe it's time to start making my name known.
Soon you'll see my face on 'BBC food'.

Yeah. Probably very true. Maybe it's time to start making my name known.
Soon you'll see my face on 'BBC food'.[/b][/quote]
I think you have a clip you can send them....
;-)))

You could be right. Afterall I did grill a sausage.
No wait, actually I had a sausage grilled for me.. that has to be good for something.

Do this:
create a recipe ebook with various niche recipes, then write another and reference the first book and so on (and continue to cross reference the other books back and forth). Then go to www.clickbank.com and sell the ebooks and people who buy one will see the references to the others and if they like those, they'll buy them and soon you'll have a nice little viral marketing thing going on.

Then open up a free recipe of the day site and pitch your full cook ebooks on that site and offer a daily newsletter with a "bonus" recipe and again, in that newsletter, push your ebooks.

Plus, go to www.clickbank.com and there are other ebooks listed there that you can promote and recieve a commission on.

You can also go to a site like www.cj.com and signup to promote any sponsors with cooking supplies, kitchen equipment, etc. on your new recipe site.

Throw in some videos of naked girls cooking or using vegies on themselves!!

:okthumb:

Seriously a name is very important in food circles. That or some kind of niche. The low carbs diets are all very popular. Problem is there are tons of receipes everywhere for it.

Maybe you could try a free model, and just have advertising.

TGF drop me a message (142032164) cause i dont have you on this icq. I think i can help you.

A great way to avoid the snootiness factor of being a known name is to write the aforementioned ebook and then on the site use the caption "From Bestselling CookBook Author..."

Most people don't quite really know who the chefs are but they don't want their friends to think they don't know who they are...it's like people who fake knowing about art just to impress people that they know about art...



Last edited by SykkBoy at Mar 4 2004, 03:27 PM

I think I'll skip the ebook phase and just make a free site. :)

I sort of wanted to do a cooking site as a hobby and perhaps to make a little money. I was looking for a good domain but couldnt find anything that isnt ridiculously overpriced.

Waste of time.


Only about 10 billion free recipes on the internet.

bullshit...complete and utter bullshit - there's 20 billion free porn pics on the net.

TGF - find some relevant sponsors...content is king - give them some reason to come back and enjoy your site (new recipes - create a forum for them to exchange recipes, share results from yours)...they'll start clicking on the links to your sponsors. :okthumb:

best of luck -
aeon

bullshit...complete and utter bullshit - there's 20 billion free porn pics on the net.

TGF - find some relevant sponsors...content is king - give them some reason to come back and enjoy your site (new recipes - create a forum for them to exchange recipes, share results from yours)...they'll start clicking on the links to your sponsors. :okthumb:

best of luck -
aeon[/b][/quote]


Aeon excellent points!

It is all about selling the SIZZLE not the steak!

Aeon excellent points!

It is all about selling the SIZZLE not the steak![/b][/quote]
I say bullshit to all those posts! (not mine)



Porn is completely different. You offer them MORE and BETTER.

What are you going to do....tease your surfer with a "decent" recipe for chicken picatta, and remind em that the hardcore delicious stuff is in the members area?

Or the "full length" rack of lamb recipe can be yours with a 1.99 trial?


Even if you are doing 100k hits a day on your free recipe site...your rotating cj ads and cookbook overture results aren't going to make you rich. And that's if you get to 100k hits a day anyway, which you wont.


Don't waste your time!
Stick to porn, or sell me your mortgage leads.



Last edited by pushpills at Mar 4 2004, 02:49 PM

Writing a cookbook is something I've always wanted to do. I've had cullinary training in deserts and pastry and I owned my own bakery for a while. I think a lot could be done with advertising and upsells on a free recipe site. I've got some ideas. TGF icq me, maybe we can work something out.

7067130

Red

1) Have a membership site, $9/3 months

or

2) Token system, 20 cents per recipe download

3) Get a Google PR script

4) Send me a check for the advice. :agrin:

Put Google Adsense ads up top.

I'd go with Sykk's viral ebook idea (I've done it before, works well) - but include in the ebooks a page that opens up to your site and pulls in the free recipe or note of the day. You could either just make it a link in the book or have it pull right into the book with an SSI type of include (most ebook software does this now, if not, do it with freely found javascript).

If I were doing it, I'd go with "healthy" food - not as in fad diets, but as in not using salt, refined sugar, anything with dyes in it, etc etc.
I used to run a bakery in a big grocery store that only sold natural foods and we baked with molasses, honey, unrefined sugar, no dyes, natural butter (no margarine) etc etc - the money those people would pay for this stuff was UNREAL. Many of them needed it because of food allergies but the rest were just snooty people who wanted to brag about how "pure" and "expensive" their food was.

Just in case you're interested, here's the site for the stores I worked for (when I worked there it was a different company with a different name):
http://www.wholefoodmarket.com/

And here's the bakery page:
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/products/l...ist_bakery.html
Be sure to check the snapshots on the right-hand side of the page. We made all that stuff right there in the store every day.
Making the pies before Thanksgiving and Christmas was a 24-hour job. I don't miss that part. Ever pulled 36 hours in a hot bakery managing cranky, tired employees and customers freaking out because they need a pie in 10 minutes but no more were going to be ready for 20? Yeesh. :)

Why did I click, why did I click, why did I click??!!

I could eat until I exploded in a bakery :)

Damn diet's making me cranky. :angry:

Why did I click, why did I click, why did I click??!!

I could eat until I exploded in a bakery :)

Damn diet's making me cranky. :angry:[/b][/quote]
There's a handful of these around Atlanta...

That"s the company that bought out Harry's Farmers Market. Some still carry the Harry's name and look, but it's owned by Whole Foods.

I can put on 10 pounds just by driving past it.

My favorite part of the store was the produce department. God it was gorgeous, and smelled so good.
Big red ripe tomatoes that actually SMELLED like tomatoes... not these hydro super-fast grown things that have no smell... most of the produce was certified organic and just standing in there was like being in ...heaven?
I dunno but I loved it.

When I worked there it was Fresh Fields. Whole Foods bought 'em out in '96.

I can remember when Harry's first opened in Alpharetta. They had the most awesome food selection in the world. OK, maybe not the world, but in Alpharetta :awinky:

I would go in there and just buy like crazy. 2/3 of it I'd end up throwing out before I could do anything with it - but it looked so good, lol! Fruits, vegetables, awesome meats and seafood, and my fav - the premade meals you could stick in the oven :)

And their bakery - the most awesome muffins ever. They had a white chocolate banana pie I would sell a kidney for...... :P

I'd just go with a free recipe site, that gave away some of your recipes, but not all of them. Go to one of those self publishing websites and have a book created. They handle all the printing, processing, etc, and you get a cut of each sale. So, you've got a few free recipes, and you say.. "for more recipes, purchase my book: The Real Naked Chef"

Heheheh :yowsa:
I think Jamie Oliver would sue me quite quickly. :)

Eve, TGF
you guys could do real well with a free site like that
by simply adding Google's AdSense


just add water, err traffic and you're ready to roll


oh one more thing, thegoodcook.com sells real well and there are few others like it that would fit this traffic.

Upsells!

cookbooks, equipment, quality produce, wines and cooking holidays.

And probably other stuff, hehe.

If you can build traffic you have * in an advertisers eyes* a high income customer base, that can be used to hawk anything.

I'd add a low carb messageboard.

Good ideas here. I might even go through with this. I just gotta make some nice recipes, make the foods, take pics of them and then eat the foods. If it's good, recipe goes up.. :) :)

As soon as I finish with some real business I might take that site as a side hobby. :yowsa:

I can remember when Harry's first opened in Alpharetta. They had the most awesome food selection in the world. OK, maybe not the world, but in Alpharetta :awinky:

I would go in there and just buy like crazy. 2/3 of it I'd end up throwing out before I could do anything with it - but it looked so good, lol! Fruits, vegetables, awesome meats and seafood, and my fav - the premade meals you could stick in the oven :)

And their bakery - the most awesome muffins ever. They had a white chocolate banana pie I would sell a kidney for...... :P[/b][/quote]
I still have some of the 5lbs of fresh garlic you bought.

Had to freeze it, though. ;-))

Hehehe - that was Costco - there's just no way I can pass up 5 pounds of peeled garlic for $6 :awinky:

Next time I'll seal it for you. Once I did that, the smell went away, even in the fridge. But don't worry - I still a LOT left too so it will be awhile until I restock. :okthumb:

Heheheh :yowsa:
I think Jamie Oliver would sue me quite quickly. :)[/b][/quote]
I reckon if you actually got nekkid, you'd be in the clear. haha.

I agree that it should be free and that you need to build a name for it. This takes time. Up sells is definitely the way to go. People into cooking don’t care how many sites there are, fuck it, they will go if it’s easy to navigate and interesting.

I hate having to register because I know my email is going to get hammered so make this an option they can add their name to a newsletter or something. Offer them free shit and get some sponsors they will drop ship free shit in the mail if you add them on your newsletter. People love to get free shit in the mail.

Here’s an interesting twist…I’d need to think about it and work out the creative details but I think an area created for some type of couples food erotica…. You know food that are created with natural aphrodisiacs, romantic dinners, how to set atmosphere and cerate romantic presence. I have more ideas about this.

I love cooking and I love the sensual aspects of food. My lover says that I make very sensual sounds when I eat, especially when I eat chocolate and strawberries. In fact she often feeds me strawberries and fruit in bed. It’s very sexy. I also use a lot of fresh herbs and food combinations that might affect your mood. If you make a romantic dinner for someone you want to be careful what you serve…nothing gassy, heavy or smelly.

You should also enter recipe contest and create a name for yourself.