Nick you need to contact either Jason or myself....I don't need to go into details.

Lets resolve this so we can each go our own way. The problem is not going to go away by ignoring us.

Drama?

:unsure:

Mike there is no drama if people were upfront on their abilities and conducted themselves as professionals....

There were a few times where I couldn't deliver what I said I could for whatever reason and I simply returned the money....I returned it because that is the right thing to do. I don't hide or make excuses. I or anyone else would expect the same decency.

So to answer your question, drama can be avoided 100% of the time if people would do what is right.

I am right there with you Alex.

I am in 2 situation like that right now. Trying to decide if its time to bring to the boards or not.

I am right there with you Alex.

I am in 2 situation like that right now. Trying to decide if its time to bring to the boards or not.[/b][/quote]
If you do, can you post them at oprano poker? we need some drama for the fish














side note- Serge, I'll fix tyour account later today at APT. been busy all day



Last edited by masterp74 at Mar 1 2004, 03:31 PM

I hate bringing stuff to the boards but when phone call after phone call and email after email as well as all other methods of contacts go unanswered, I'm left with no choice and I knew he posted here so here I am.

You know Mike, we have been in this business for 7 years and have a very clean record. I just don't understand the business practices of some. My theory is you can screw people over and over and get away with it but eventually it will catch up to you.

I don't know about you, but I like going to bed at night knowing I don't have to sleep with one eye open. I would prefer to say that my successes are because of hard work and dedication as well as solid business practices.

Everyone needs some drama in their life.
My gf isn't giving me any drama so need to find it somewhere.

:wnw:

if only alex & jason would drop by a little more often - these guys could bring some really high quality seafood to the gumbo :okthumb:

:bwave: hi alex!

:wnw:

if only alex & jason would drop by a little more often - these guys could bring some really high quality seafood to the gumbo :okthumb:

:bwave: hi alex![/b][/quote]
CJ I agree with you.

I do not know them personally, but am familair with their work.

Alex, stop by more often We need quality contributors like you!!

Oprano is more then just DRAMA!

Now that I am here, I will stop by here more often : ))

Excellent!

I'm in and have been in two to three similar situations as well Mike, and for quite some time now too. I believe one of them we might even share. Makes me wonder what else (who else) we might have in common.

... Meanwhile, I continue likewise to bite my toungue. But not for too fucking much longer. I'm already biting hard enough that I'm tasting blood. If I bite any harder my tounge will come off. If that happens then I will make certain other people's body parts will be severed off of them -- that I can 1000% assure them!!

:kapow:


Oh, quick editted addenum. This has nothing to do with the thread topic of Nick and/or Ant. Just for da record.





Last edited by Dravyk at Mar 1 2004, 07:50 PM

I'm in and have been in two to three similar situations as well Mike, and for quite some time now too. I believe one of them we might even share. Makes me wonder what else (who else) we might have in common.

... Meanwhile, I continue likewise to bite my toungue. But not for too fucking much longer. I'm already biting hard enough that I'm tasting blood. If I bite any harder my tounge will come off. If that happens then I will make certain other people's body parts will be severed off of them -- that I can 1000% assure them!!

:kapow:


Oh, quick editted addenum. This has nothing to do with the thread topic of Nick and/or Ant. Just for da record.[/b][/quote]
New rule...all new drama starts at Oprano Poker.

donm't bother, I fixed it myself...my programming skills allowed me to erase old pass/software and install new
;_)))

:wnw:

if only alex & jason would drop by a little more often - these guys could bring some really high quality seafood to the gumbo :okthumb:

:bwave: hi alex![/b][/quote]
same alex and jason who burried Likewhoa???
whoa!!!
;-))

same alex and jason who burried Likewhoa???
whoa!!!
;-))[/b][/quote]
Same guys Serge :bdance:

Funny how the two clowns I had or have problems with, their first name is Nick or atleast their handle is.

Note to self: Start screening people we potentially might do buisness with whose first name is Nick.

well...The Likewhoa Nick is now used car salesman on Route 9 in New Jersey..
Justice been served
;_)))

Justice, Karma or whatever you want to call it, can definitely be a bitch.

It is just a matter of time and I have plenty of it.

Nick, start making good on your debts.

All you guys, Serge, Dravy, MikeAI, Meat you all know Jon and have a history with him back at netpond. Do you stand by him or is he free game?

If you remember Netpond, you will remember I sparred with Nick more then most people there.

I think Nick liked the impression! haha

I know this is going to be unpopular but hey....whats new right?

I have never done any business with Jon/Nick but I consider him to be a good friend.

I got no dog in this fight either.

The only thing I can add is that you wont get anything out of him on a message board. And making light of a death in someone's family [his father] isn't exactly going to resolve anything either.

I can only assume you guys posted several threads for a reaction.
So theres mine.

Hope you work it out.

Jason, not much to say except that Nick is ...... Nick! (allegedly the net's biggest crook!)

Hope you guys get this sorted out - you know myself (and it seems most others around here) are aware that both yourself and alex are a pleasure to work with & absolute professionals.

Reputation is rarely wrong ..........

Jason, not much to say except that Nick is ...... Nick! (allegedly the net's biggest crook!)

Hope you guys get this sorted out - you know myself (and it seems most others around here) are aware that both yourself and alex are a pleasure to work with & absolute professionals.

Reputation is rarely wrong ..........[/b][/quote]
Thanks CJ

Jason, not much to say except that Nick is ...... Nick! (allegedly the net's biggest crook!)[/b][/quote]
"Nick is Nick." That pretty much sums it up. Hard to explain further those who don't know him. Not meant to sound like Confucious either. It just ... sums it up very well, CJ.

I have seen Nick accused of things he may have done. I've seen Nick accused of things he hadn't done. I've seen Nick pay back everyone or nearly everyone who was screwed by AdultTrafficPete at his own expense too.

In sum: "your own mileage may vary" and "past history is not necessarily an indicator of future performance." I will say one thing about Nick however. He's not going anywhere. He's been around to long for anyone to call him a fast buck and get out person. Since I know he intends to be around a long time, and that any business person with that expectation knows he has to make good in order to last ... Well, I guess that says it. The rest is up for interpretation.

Vegas odds say Nick will step up to the plate and this will be old history in a few weeks. Let's see if Vegas is right or not.

LOL JAson dont throw me in that statement:) Is spent 3 years suing Nick over Netpond..:) Where you been? hehehe

exactamente :okthumb:

But, you guys are going about this the wrong way...

To get Nick's attention, you gotta mention money !!!

As in cash, mulla, bread, bucks, ca-ching ca-ching

:yowsa:

what do you mean?
I am not John Gotti, I can't protect Nick from you. Nick owed Oprano some money in the past, but he ALWAYS came thru,
like everybody else in this biz, he falls on bad times, but....I don't know anybody whom he "took money and run"

Bust his balls as you please, there is a very good chance he makes up to you, if history is something to learn from

We wouldn't have a problem if he had called us and said hey guys, I'm having a tough time getting you the money that is rightfully owed to you and I'll need a couple of weeks. I'll keep you posted.

Instead Nick and Anthony ignore our phone calls or any other method of contact we have for them. We interpret that as buzz off, we have no intentions of paying.

A few people have owed us money in the past and they came across hard times as well but the difference is they stayed in contact with us and kept us informed. The final result is we were paid over time. To this day I would do business with them again.

Come on Serge! We all know....."If you owe Serge, you pay Serge" Otherwise you are not going to have a future in internet. Jon does not know us from dick, but he will.

Come on Serge! We all know....."If you owe Serge, you pay Serge" Otherwise you are not going to have a future in internet. Jon does not know us from dick, but he will.[/b][/quote]
your data is about 4 years old.....I don't even bark, much less I bite
;-))))

Come on Serge! We all know....."If you owe Serge, you pay Serge" Otherwise you are not going to have a future in internet. Jon does not know us from dick, but he will.[/b][/quote]
Yes i will be taking on the roll soon.



"If you owe Masterp74, You better pay masterp74"

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phone calls emails?...I have had fuck all!!!!!!!!

Ducking you? I haven't received one fucking email.I see you have both messaged me yesterday on icq????

You guys got your panties in a mangle and spat the dummy out

A bounty on me.....oh amusing.Who the fuck do you think you are?

ahahahahaha


Big assed post to follow

Nick you know and I know we have been calling your office as well as Anthony's cell.....We have asked politely to give us a call and let us know the situation but you both don't return calls or replies on ICQ....

WTF do you want us to think?

You have been ducking us and you dam well know it.

You have the time to post here but what, no time to give a call and let us know what your plans are?

Give me a break. We aren't a couple of chumps that just got in this buisness last night.

Our reputation speaks for itself.



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Anthony has been dealing with some personal stuff for the last while and I have received NO calls,No emails.

You wanna threaten me?

Good. Bring it.I await your law suit.

word D U D E has been killed by Oprano decency police
;_)))

thank MORON who overused it to the vomitting point
;-))

Quit dancing around the issue Nick. Personal problems?. Everyone has personal problems. I for one just came back from a funeral. I'm not about to spill my personal problems with buisness issues or use it as an excuse.

Like I said, if you have time to post on boards then you definitely have time to call us. Both You and Anthony have been posting here.

A simple phone call with an explanation is all we were asking for.

As for threats, lets not add words and make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Quit being so melo dramatic.

What I believe you put a $5000 bounty on my home address????

You think you have acted professionally???

I won't give you the wind from my ass.

Sue me.

Yeah Nick!! Sort the man out... he must need that $300 fastl

Dont be melo-dramatic about it and make multiple threads and stuff ROFLMAO

Yeah ztimedia is owed between 300$ -400$

Woooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

I might have to sell the house!!

WANKER!!!

You mean all this has been over a couple of hundred dollars? That is a joke right?

Could one of the admins merge these 3 threads? This is silly.
(There's at least 3 hovering near the top of the board, might be more further down that I haven't bothered to scroll to.)

Told yaall you had to do was to know how to call him............ :yowsa:

and for the record......

Ant has not been posting hardly at all since his Fiance's Father died suddenly last week... I believe that he was probably pretty well tied up with personal issues. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...f4241ceeeb18fc4 . In fact, his last post here is on Feb 18 in this thread: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...f4241ceeeb18fc4

So to say "Both You and Anthony have been posting here." while not a straight out lie is at least misleading because it ignores the fact that Ant has not been posting for the past week.

Nick has been posting a little bit here and there, but nothing near to his norm, so to accuse him of having all this time to post while ignoring you seems at least a little way out there. http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...sort_order=desc

I do not know what the gripe is here, but I assume it is something that has come up in the past week or so. If that is correct, then you guys brought this to the boards awful fucking quick.

Fact of the matter is that in this industry, most of the operations are quite small and are usually dependent on 2 or 3 key people. If you tamke one of those people out of the mix (in this case Ant) then the other people have to get up to snuff on what he was supposed to be doing. Since most deals are made via email, icq or phone, there is not always a great amount of documentation outside of the person's pda and icq logs for someone else to follow up on. Therefore, it is often the case that when something like this is happening it is best to wait for the person that made the deal to be actively involved before trying to figure out what is going on.

While Nick is a self professed scammer, I would trust him and Ant with my money ocver most of the supposed "professional" companies out there any day of the fucking week.




:okthumb:

Stop fucking lying. You have 48 hours to pay me, i'll be watching my bank accounts. You know you don't owe me $300.

$299 ??


:awinky:

What do you think I owe you fucktard?

THis is awesome you duickless tit! No affiliate program on earth will want to touch you or your dribble of business.

Fuck off.The grown ups are talking.

Well lets see.. 35% of sales. Why don't you login to the admin and look it up. You disabled mine so you could hold your lies together.

Its not even about the money anyway. I'll be watching my accounts.

GRAND TOTAL ----- I'm getting figures round the 1000 mark - to date!!!

$300 and change is actually late.


I'll say it again....WANKER!!!

10% of 300 is $30 to Oprano...from EACH!

Fuck it, we are NOT non for profit org!

Ok Sarettah,

You do business with them then, that is your choice. I don't care about personal problems. Like I said we all have them as I just had to deal with a funeral for the last week.

They might not have been posting as much but they are sure are lurking here. I don't give a crap whether they haven't posted in a year, the point is, a little decency was in order and a call to keep us informed would have been great.

Jason and I have been partners for 7 years and I promise you, we are both aware of what each other does. He is my right hand man as I am to him. It is called communication. If one of us had a emergency, the other picks up the slack. It is a simple concept.

Bishop, you think I would be here for $300.00? Trust me it is quite a bit more. For $300.00, I wouldn't waste my time here for chump change.

Nick it is quite simple for you, pay what you owe and we each move on our seperate ways. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

You put a bounty on me.

You can now sue me.