as always, it comes to...MONEY.

"Marriage Penalty Relief. The new tax law brings good news for married couples. Previously, most married couples paid more taxes on their combined income than unmarried couples filing separately. Now the 15-percent bracket for married joint filers is twice that of single filers, effectively eliminating the so-called marriage penalty. In addition, the standard deduction for married couples filing jointly increased from $7,900 to $9,500--twice the amount allowed for single filers."

No.

Leviticus 20:13

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Jews hate fags. Jesus was a Jew. Bush obeys Jesus.

That is why.

who told you Jews hate fags???

Jews hate nobody, I am sorry your application into Judaism was denied, we can't polute our religion with morons from Detroit.

Hmmm

The third book of the Tanakh and the Torah, the book called the Book of Law, written as priestly instruction... says to kill fags.

You would disobey YHWH? He clearly does not like turd burglars and I have read what happens to those who disobey him.

Hmmm

The third book of the Tanakh and the Torah, the book called the Book of Law, written as priestly instruction... says to kill fags.

You would disobey YHWH? He clearly does not like turd burglars and I have read what happens to those who disobey him.[/b][/quote]
Labret, I gotta give it to you,
you studied Talmud more extensively than I did....

If you need my letter of recomendation to join local Synagoge,
I'll vouch for you.

Hmmm

The third book of the Tanakh and the Torah, the book called the Book of Law, written as priestly instruction... says to kill fags.

You would disobey YHWH? He clearly does not like turd burglars and I have read what happens to those who disobey him.[/b][/quote]
Is Serge a priest? I had no idea!! :zoinks:

Bush is against gay marriages because he wants my domain, "GayWedding.com" to remain worthless.

Bush is against gay marriages because he wants my domain, "CivilUnion.com" to remain worthless.

Bush is against gay marriages because he still seeks his fathers approval.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about, or are you looking to be humiliated yet again?

Do you have any idea what you are talking about, or are you looking to be humiliated yet again?[/b][/quote]
I'll explain it to you like I would to a 4 year old:

You are quoting something that is written as "priestly instruction" (your words) and then asking why Serge doesn't follow it.....why should he? He's not a priest!

You might want to read all the other things the book of Leviticus supposedly says are right and wrong. :awinky:

Speaking of trivia.

Did you know sperm contains more protein than a pork chop?

I'll explain it to you like I would to a 4 year old:

You are quoting something that is written as "priestly instruction" (your words) and then asking why Serge doesn't follow it.....why should he? He's not a priest!

You might want to read all the other things the book of Leviticus supposedly says are right and wrong. :awinky:[/b][/quote]

Why am I not surprised you would take the hard way out.

God, in his infinite wisdom, decided that not all Jews could be priests. Instead he bestowed the honor on the descendants of Aaron (Levites). They were the priests and clergy of tribes. Not all Levites were priests, but all priests were Levite.

Leviticus is a book outlining liturgical procedure as well the very basic fundamentals of living a good Jew life that were to be passed on to the nation via the Levite priests.

Its not just for priests. It was from God to the priests to be passed onto the people. If it were just for priests, dont you think Serge would have pointed that out? Or are you insinuating Serge is ignorant of his own faith? How come simple things need to be explained to you?

What are you insinuating? The basic laws of Judaism are problematic?



Last edited by [Labret] at Feb 28 2004, 07:24 AM

Why am I not surprised you want to argue about this? :P You believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I want to believe - deal? :lol: :lol:

I wasn't "insinuating" anything. I made a statement. But you can read whatever you want into it because it's a beautiful day here in Atlanta and instead of dealing with your "I'm going to try to create discord here so I can get the attention I can't get in my real life" mentality, I'm headed outside. :rokk:

(any bets on how long it will take Labret to say I'm running away from the argument? B) )

And, just for the sake of argument, what if it were only intended for clergy?

The command is still the same, kill homosexuals.

Judaism makes me sad.

SPAM!

Judaism makes you said because you
1) don't belong
2) don't have a chance to belong

Judaism is one of the most liberal religion and here is the guide/proof:

1) If you are at the wedding and the mother of the bride is pregnant-
you are at Orthodox wedding

2) If you are at the wedding and the bride is pregnant-
you are at Conservative wedding

3) If you are at the wedding and the Rabbi is pregnant,
you are at Reformist wedding


eat your heart out, Labret
;-)))

Serge IS ignorant of his own faith. NOBODY taught us Judaism in USSR, the one of the most anti-semitic countries on Earth.

I am an Atheist by education,
correct your cuff notes.

It took forever to take the marriage penalty off of married couples. Congress should be shamed!

Not with GWB. He honestly believes we live in a Christian democracy/republic (however you wish to difine the US). His stand on 'Gay Marriage' is based upon his faith -- and the clear understanding he better get an issue that will take everyone's eyes off his failures -- education, Iraq, terrorism, jobs and on, and on.

The issues may be equality in civil marriage law and a Federal Marriage Amendment but the real fight George is attempting to lead is against the separation of church and state.

Does he know of what he speaks?? Is his belief correct?? How 'Christian' is the USofA?? Take This QUIZ. You may get a real surprise!! :salute:
And how does he stack up on his knowledge about 'one man, one woman' marriage being a cultural cornerstone of civilization? Read This!

If you want to see discrimination added, for the first time, to our Constitution, with who knows 'what' to follow, work for the election of GWB. If not, get busy and let your elected officials in Washington know how you feel, let the candidates know how you feel and work for . . . the lesser of two evils. 'Tis the American Way!!

with who knows 'what' to follow
**********************************

is what scares me the most.

So you do or do not agree with your chosen deities stance on homosexuality?

Should we execute homosexuals as your God demands? Is it the fear of the law of man that prevents you from carrying out God's commands? Or is it because your faith is nothing more than a hollow gesture, vapid and shallow in your devotion. Or is it because your God is wrong?



Last edited by [Labret] at Feb 28 2004, 11:42 AM

Labret, I don't know how you managed to get Jewish gene in your blood in Detroit, but you ask more God question than entire Jerusalem Hassidims on Shabath....

don't forget to post your pic with tsicis and peises...

maybe he's just against LeeNoga, might be time for a name change. :awinky:



Last edited by jimmyf at Feb 28 2004, 12:42 PM

Serge do you have a Shaddai on your door? If not does that make you MIA Jew. :zoinks:

Wake UP PEOPLE!!!

BUSH IS JESUS.

I don't know what this is, but I probably have it
;_)))

Who do you think you are kidding?

uh huh. So you just wanted to point out that I should read the rest of Leviticus when it is evident that I already have? At least you saw yourself getting backed into a corner and decided on the smart way out for once. It would have been nothing short of ugly had you chose to continue.

Discord? The thread was about the real reason why Bush is against gay marriage. I gave the theological foundations of Bush's beliefs, its not like I made anything up.

Attention? Who jumped into a thread they are woefully unprepared to discuss as usual? You got your attention and as usual it backfires in your face.

Labret, I don't know how you managed to get Jewish gene in your blood in Detroit, but you ask more God question than entire Jerusalem Hassidims on Shabath....

don't forget to post your pic with tsicis and peises...[/b][/quote]


Serge,

How does it make you feel to know that your loving God wants you to kill Lee Noga?

and probably Gonzo.



Last edited by [Labret] at Feb 28 2004, 03:07 PM

You caught me again - instead of leaving the house, I locked myself up in the bathroom all day (the one downstairs with NO window) because I was so upset by what you said to me. :rolleyes:

If you HAVE read Leviticus and you're opting to pick out one item and dwell on it, then knock yourself out, sweetie! I personally think it's humorous that you're doing so. :)

Back to the bathroom for me to attempt to recover from another of your jabs! :(

Do you think before you type? When you type, do you actually think to yourself that its a good idea?

The topic is Bush and homosexuality. Had the topic been, " is that a TRUE reason why Bush is against bread and pizza" then perhaps discussing the dietary restrictions from Leviticus would be appropriate. But alas the topic is homosexuality, so I will discuss those things from Leviticus pertaining to said topic.

I am a sower of Oprano discord, running about willy nilly, keeping my posts on topic and quoting relevant sources. Ohhh the insanity of it all.



Last edited by [Labret] at Feb 28 2004, 03:27 PM

Serge,

How does it make you feel to know that your loving God wants you to kill Lee Noga?

and probably Gonzo.[/b][/quote]
This is bullshit!

King James version Bible is NOT the Book the Jews live by,
we live by Torah,
and it's said in Torah:
love insects, Labrets,
one of them will eventually inherit the Earth.

If you wanna direct me to the passage from Torah which contradicts what I just quoted,
I'll thank you and your professor of Judaism studies.

I knew you gonna enjoy the course and lose your marbles trying to convert to Judaism

So if a thread's about bread and pizza, and I find a small reference in a huge book that says you should be killed if you eat bread and pizza (and there are 1000's of interpretations as to what it really says.....), and there are other references in that book which make as much as sense as the bread and pizza reference, then I should post the bread and pizza reference and hope (and pray? :P ) that everyone takes me seriously.

Got it. :okthumb:

So there are 1000s of interpretations of Leviticus 20:13?

Can you give me a few please?

Make as much sense? Are you insinuating again that the fundamentals of Judaism do not make sense?

Is this some kind of weird way of arguing that Bush's position on homosexual marriage is not based solely on JudeoChristian ethics and quoting the source of this belief is not valid? Really?

Really?

Do you just figure that you are in deep enough that it does not matter anymore, you might as well just kick and fight and go for the "last word", war of attrition style of argument?

Just call it a day granny. You are talking shit in a thread that makes no sense about a topic you will never understand. Seriously, just do yourself a favor for once.

Try reading what I actually said has 1000's of interpretations...here's a hint - "huge book". :P But as a matter of fact, Leviticus 20:13 also has 1000's of interpretations. In fact, millions. Everyone who reads the Bible interprets it differently even within the same religion and even within the same denomination :)

You claim to have read Leviticus. Are you saying that you think everyone who believes in what the Bible says adheres to everything written in it as literally as you seem to feel that they are adhering to this one chapter by one writer in one religious book? :unsure:

I shall since I plan to watch a movie and finish my wine from dinner, and I thank you for giving me this opportunity to let you toss out your imagined insults instead of dealing with the issue at hand. B)

You're so funny, Labret!! :okthumb:

funny how much time you spend arguing with people you automatically characterize as being your intellectual inferior... almost as if it comes after a long day of beating up junior high kids and playing practical jokes on retards. you did this for more than 11,000 posts on GFY. you spent a couple years baiting idiots into responding to your own well practiced arguments. but why? you qualify people as ignorant.. then try to debate something as ambiguous as politics or religion knowing that you can always find safe haven in that same abiguity.

from a distance, it looks as if you are a little insecure about your own shortcomings and then resort to attacking others for those percieved traits which you despise in yourself. it's beginning to look like your mother does not love you and your father abused you.

I knew that sounded familiar.

Maybe you can cut n paste next time and save yourself some effort?

Again, you will always find me in certain threads. I am only here to prove that most of you are worthless.

You dont like these "well rehearsed" lines of questioning? Come up with a proper defense and end them. Pretty simple uh?

Or you could just go on whining about how I abuse your friends like "junior high kids" and "7 year olds". Its a shame with so many alleged Jews in this business that nobody can overcome the basic stumbling blocks when presented.

These threads will never end. So long as there is an old conservative man that loves America, a pornographer that claims to be a member of any of the big 3, a woman intent on expressing an opinion, I will be there to humiliate their arguments as best possible.

So keep your little quotes handy, you can start combining them in the future.

Fag.



Last edited by [Labret] at Feb 29 2004, 02:36 AM

hmmmm......boy is hanging to his teen years and just doesn't want letting it go...

I am an optimist and beleive that you grow up eventually.

I'll be checking on your progress @ 12 month intervals...

One of those days.....
;-))))

Again I question this notion of you as legendary pisser when you cave in easier than most. Had I bought into the hype, Serge should have driven me away in mental ruins, business destroyed, in a matter of days.

I wouldnt worry, I get bored easily. I think I stayed on GFY so long because there was always a fresh steady stream of sheep to entice me back, I cant say the same for Oprano. While it is chock full o' mongoloids, kicking in the same heads over and over (although entertaining) is boring.

Labret,
one can ONLY establish himself as a great pisser,
when one pisses with GREAT opponents.

Ron Levi was a great opponent and I miss him dearly. Our GREAT piss brought us GREAT money and we were one of the firsts to "enjoy the fruits of our labor"

Now you attempt to make a name for yourself by unsucessfully trying to pick a piss on Oprano,
where EVERYBODY see thru you and your pathetic atempts and crys for attention.

I have a few $$$ to show for my piss,
"9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboreth? "

you've got NONE, you wasted your time all those years as all your piss didn't make you a dime.

If you can't see what everybody see-
\than you are not just a moron, but a BLIND moron
;_))))

Looks like it from up close too. :okthumb:

(although I am short) I am tall. :P

Don't worry - most of your posts have been equally contradictory and I suspect you have a ying and yang struggle within your own head on a daily basis. :okthumb:

(although I am short) I am tall. :P

Don't worry - most of your posts have been equally contradictory and I suspect you have a ying and yang struggle within your own head on a daily basis. :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
"To shroom or not to shroom,
THIS is a question!"
;-))))

(although I am short) I am tall. :P

Don't worry - most of your posts have been equally contradictory and I suspect you have a ying and yang struggle within your own head on a daily basis. :okthumb:[/b][/quote]

More hillbilly psych theory please.

I say this with all seriousness. Very few people over the years have actually given me the creeps based solely on their posts alone, but after awhile you start to develop a mental picture of the person (and I use that term lightly) you are watching on the other end.

The frequency, volume, and depths of pettiness that you will routinely visit in the course of an argument, seriously makes me think that you have some serious emotional problems. Like ignoring volumes of material to work with above, you decide to attack "entertaining yet boring"? You couldnt google up any argument against anything else? Wouldnt it just have been better to have said nothing at all? You are one of those women that have to have the last word, the worst kind of nitpicking nag, the kind that confuses your disaster of a personality with being a "strong independent woman"... when in reality you are just an old bitter bitch.

I bet it comes from an abusive relationship. If your husbands(s) didnt beat you, they should have.

I creep out Labret! :lol: :lol: And I did it without calling for the death of gay people, putting up "offensive" avatars, posting my thoughts on minorities and attempting to spew out hate for most. :) Are you jealous that I've done to you what you are incapable of doing to others? :awinky:

Of course my husbands beat me - they were all related to me and much older so it was considered legal family disipline :)

Back to the bathroom with no windows for me - Labret has yet again put me in my place. :cryin:

(or I could be going to brunch with folks who invited me a week ago....see how that works, G and HP? :nyanya: )

Edited because I totally hosed up the quotes :rolleyes:



Last edited by Peaches at Feb 29 2004, 11:10 AM

Peaches, I think you just summed it up!

Very good observation, indeed! :okthumb:

Serge IS ignorant of his own faith. NOBODY taught us Judaism in USSR, the one of the most anti-semitic countries on Earth.

I am an Atheist by education,
correct your cuff notes.[/b][/quote]
Homosexuality speaks of males involved in homosexual behavior...it's common knowledge...there's a difference between improper behavior and sin...

Women can't commit onanism...that's the sin - outta yer league...women can't spill yer seed - are page views that important? - show me the halacha or pipe down...Jews can be ex-communicated too :)

blame stalin...for your shaving...

best of luck -
aeon

btw - you have to make pennance for the human's you've stolen from too - Yom Kippur isn't an easy way out - you have to make that pennance to the individuals...HaShem...won't forgive you for your failings against man ;)

best of luck -
aeon

sounded familiar?

though i hate to point out the obvious to someone as educated as yourself... it was said by the same person. forgive my arrogance.

all you have to say is that everyone is stupid and uneducated, Jews and niggers should die etc etc. oooooh. so controversial!

*yawn*

Lensman timed your demise perfectly. You should thank him for that. You should thank him for the further embarrassment he spared you. More than anyone, he realized when you peaked. He even let you have a few thousand more posts for old times sake and out of sheer compassion and sympathy. It's a shame watching a faithful horse finally weaken to the point that he just can't pull the cart anymore. He realized that you were completely spent and reduced to nothing more than repeatedly baiting children with the same canned anti-semitic and racist remarks, while constantly challenging those same *retards* to the same religious/Isreal/Hitler debates again and again and again.

Much like putting a bullet in the head of an old horse stricken by arthritus, it upset some of the kids but it was just too painful for him to watch someone declare everyone is an idiot, while simultaneously trying to bait them into intellectual debates without noticing or acknowledging the contradiction. In the end, it was just the right thing to do and everyone was better off because of it.



Last edited by JR at Mar 1 2004, 04:55 PM

sounded familiar?

though i hate to point out the obvious to someone as educated as yourself... it was said by the same person. forgive my arrogance.

all you have to say is that everyone is stupid and uneducated, Jews and niggers should die etc etc. oooooh. so controversial!

*yawn*

Lensman timed your demise perfectly. You should thank him for that. You should thank him for the further embarrassment he spared you. More than anyone, he realized when you peaked. He even let you have a few thousand more posts for old times sake and out of sheer compassion and sympathy. It's a shame watching a faithful horse finally weaken to the point that he just can't pull the cart anymore. He realized that you were completely spent and reduced to nothing more than repeatedly baiting children with the same canned anti-semitic and racist remarks, while constantly challenging those same *retards* to the same religious/Isreal/Hitler debates again and again and again.

Much like putting a bullet in the head of an old horse stricken by arthritus, it upset some of the kids but it was just too painful for him to watch someone declare everyone is an idiot, while simultaneously trying to bait them into debates without noticing or acknowledging the contradiction. In the end, it was just the right thing to do and everyone was better off because of it.[/b][/quote]
you aren't bright enough to get it - and I'm not gonna waste much time on this...in some ways I think the guy yer railing against is an idiot and I'm sure he thinks the same of me at times - but he knows how to cause you to think...

I'd much rather listen to a "Klan" member that can make me think about my positions and beliefs than a moron that spouts BS - this isn't the joe wanna fuck america cause I'm not there shit - anyone that argues against me and does so effectively only makes me evaluate my position and strenghthen it - it's called debate...calling someone an idiot what they are isn't something overwhelming...it's just pointing out the obvious.

nigger, kook, kike, goy, chink, cracker., bitch, dyke, faggot,...they're just words...they don't exist or have import because of what anyone says on a message board or what people give them.

maybe one day you'll figger it out.

best of luck -
aeon

edited for spelling to keep the grammer police happy



Last edited by aeon at Mar 1 2004, 06:13 PM

i can make you think by driving my car through your livingroom with "save the trees" spray painted on my door. so what?