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sarettah 02-25-2004 11:09 PM

http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/653662.html

Woman Collapses During Showing of "The Passion Of The Christ"
Wichita
KAKE News

A woman collapsed in an East Wichita theatre this morning, during a showing of "The Passion Of The Christ". Peggy Law apparently suffered a heart attack. She was pronounced dead a short time later at a Wichita medical center.

...........

People viewing the movie at the Warren Theatre East say Law collapsed during the portion of the movie where the crucifixion of Christ was shown.

............

Whether Law's death and the timing in the film are related, we will never know, but religious and medical officials stress this film is not for the faint-hearted.



Last edited by sarettah at Feb 25 2004, 11:17 PM

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 08:58 AM

I'm only barely interested in this movie. I'll wait for it to come out on Showtime. I know how it ends already. Jesus promises to come back and doesn't.

Winetalk.com 02-26-2004 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Feb 26 2004, 09:06 AM
I'm only barely interested in this movie. I'll wait for it to come out on Showtime. I know how it ends already. Jesus promises to come back and doesn't.
Colin, you forgot the quint essential of the movie industry:
ALWAYS leave room for....sequel!
;-)))

Bishop 02-26-2004 09:08 AM

(Bishop collapsed while reading this thread)

Winetalk.com 02-26-2004 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bishop@Feb 26 2004, 09:16 AM
(Bishop collapsed while reading this thread)
wanna make a claim against Oprano's
Workers Compensation Insurance?
;-))))

Bishop 02-26-2004 09:21 AM

(Paramedics have pronounced Bishop dead though speculation that he may be back shortly is running rampant)

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Feb 26 2004, 09:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Feb 26 2004, 09:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Colin@Feb 26 2004, 09:06 AM
I'm only barely interested in this movie. I'll wait for it to come out on Showtime. I know how it ends already. Jesus promises to come back and doesn't.
Colin, you forgot the quint essential of the movie industry:
ALWAYS leave room for....sequel!
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Revelations? Now that would be a great flick.

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 09:29 AM

On this morning's news a woman was being interviewed coming out of the theater. She said "I just love Jesus. Whenever Jesus appears there is a big crowd".

Yeah, but Mel Gibson directed Braveheart. He adds Jesus and I bet numbers will be down from that flick to this one.

I'd rather William Wallace be my savior anyway. Same ending in both movies.

Winetalk.com 02-26-2004 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Feb 26 2004, 09:37 AM
On this morning's news a woman was being interviewed coming out of the theater. She said "I just love Jesus. Whenever Jesus appears there is a big crowd".

Yeah, but Mel Gibson directed Braveheart. He adds Jesus and I bet numbers will be down from that flick to this one.

I'd rather William Wallace be my savior anyway. Same ending in both movies.

few facts about Gibson, Wallace I picked in Scotland:

1) after the movie the tourism to Scotland increased 100%
(even though the movie was shot in...Ireland ;-)

2) Wallce died by Englishmen opening up his stomach and boiling his guts in front of him

3) Gibson could NOT lift the sword used by REAL Wallace, so they had to make him the reduced, underweighted hollow version of the real thing

;-)))

Peaches 02-26-2004 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Feb 26 2004, 10:42 AM
2) Wallce died by Englishmen opening up his stomach and boiling his guts in front of him
Now THERE'S a good punishment for rapists and child molesters! :okthumb:

spazlabz 02-26-2004 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bishop@Feb 26 2004, 06:16 AM
(Bishop collapsed while reading this thread)
THAT was funny Bishop. I wasn't exspecting it and it did make me laugh :yowsa:
thanks man

spaz

Nickatilynx 02-26-2004 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Feb 26 2004, 06:06 AM
I'm only barely interested in this movie. I'll wait for it to come out on Showtime. I know how it ends already. Jesus promises to come back and doesn't.
I wasn't interested in this movie either til I read so much about it on Oprano ;-))

LeeNoga 02-26-2004 10:51 AM

I am curious. It made $15 million opening night, and Gibson invested his own $30 million to do it.

But I do not believe the guy playing Jesus was struck by lightening.

I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Feb 26 2004, 10:59 AM
I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.

Yes, why not?

Nickatilynx 02-26-2004 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Feb 26 2004, 07:59 AM


But I do not believe the guy playing Jesus was struck by lightening.

I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.

LeeNoga!!!

Oh ye of little faith!

;-))

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 11:03 AM

Getting struck by lightning while standing on top of a hill with an open umbrella in your hand during a lightning storm is not an act of god. It's just plain stupid.



Last edited by Colin at Feb 26 2004, 11:12 AM

Carrie 02-26-2004 12:19 PM

It does seem to be a rather sledgehammer hint, though.

Vick 02-26-2004 12:27 PM

It's a very graphic sick movie

Think the scene from Reservoir Dogs when Mr. Blondie cuts off the cop's ear and douses him in gasoline is sick/graphic

Don't even compare with the Crucifixion scene in Passion

Carrie 02-26-2004 12:41 PM

Got this in my email today.
Quote:

A News Anchor's Perspective on "The Passion of the Christ"
Jody Dean
Dallas/Ft. Worth anchor, CBS News


There have been tons of e-mails and forwards floating around recently from those who have had the privilege of seeing Mel Gibson's The Passion Of The Christ prior to its actual release. I thought I'd give you my reaction after seeing it last [week.]

The screening was on the first night of "Elevate!" a weekend-long seminar for young people at Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano. There were about 2,000 people there, and the movie was shown after several speakers had taken the podium. It started around 9:00 and finished around 11:00...about two hours in length. Frankly, I lost complete track of time - so I can't be sure.

I want you to know that I started in broadcasting when I was 13-years-old. I have been in the business of writing, performing, production and broadcasting for a long time. I have been a part of movies, radio, television, stage and other productions - so I know how things are done. I know about soundtracks and special effects and make-up and screenplays. I think I have seen just about every kind of movie or TV show ever made - from extremely inspirational to extremely gory. I read a lot - and have covered stories and scenes that still make me wince. I also have a vivid imagination, and have the ability to picture things as they must have happened - or to anticipate things as they will be portrayed. I have also seen an enormous amount of footage from Gibson's film, so I thought I knew what was coming.

But there is nothing in my existence - nothing I could have read, seen, heard, thought or known - that could have prepared me for what I saw on screen last night.

This is not a movie that anyone will "like". I don't think it's a movie anyone will "love". It certainly doesn't "entertain". There isn't even the sense that one has just watched a movie. What it is...an experience - on a level of primary emotion that is scarcely comprehensible. Every shred of human preconception or predisposition is utterly stripped away. No one will eat popcorn during this film. Some may not eat for days after they've seen it. Quite honestly, I wanted to vomit. It hits that hard.

I can see why some people are worried about how the film portrays the Jews. They should be worried. No, it's not anti-Semitic. What it is, is entirely shattering. There are no "winners". No one comes off looking "good" - except Jesus. Even His own mother hesitates. As depicted, the Jewish leaders of Jesus' day merely do what any of us would have done - and still do. They protected their perceived "place" - their sense of safety and security, and the satisfaction of their own "rightness". But everyone falters. Caiphus judges. Peter denies. Judas betrays. Simon the Cyrene balks. Mark runs away. Pilate equivocates. The crowd mocks. The soldiers laugh. Longinus still stabs with his pilus. The centurion still carries out his orders. And as Jesus fixes them all with a glance, they still turn away. The Jews, the Romans, Jesus' friends - they all fall. Everyone, except the Principal Figure. Heaven sheds a single, mighty tear - and as blood and water spew from His side, the complacency of all creation is eternally shattered.

The film grabs you in the first five seconds, and never lets go. The brutality, humiliation, and gore are almost inconceivable - and still probably does not go far enough. The scourging alone seems to never end, and you cringe at the sound and splatter of every blow - no matter how steely your nerves. Even those who have known combat or prison will have trouble, no matter their experience - because this Man was not conscripted. He went willingly, laying down His entirety for all. It is one thing for a soldier to die for his countrymen. It's something else entirely to think of even a common man dying for those who hate and wish to kill him. But this is no common man. This is the King of the Universe. The idea that anyone could or would have gone through such punishment is unthinkable - but this Man was completely innocent, completely holy - and paying the price for others. He screams as He is laid upon the cross, "Father, they don't know. They don't know..."

What Gibson has done is to use all of his considerable skill to portray the most dramatic moment of the most dramatic events since the dawn of time. There is no escape. It's a punch to the gut that puts you on the canvas, and you don't get up. You are simply confronted by the horror of what was done - what had to be done - and why. Throughout the entire film, I found myself apologizing.

What you've heard about how audiences have reacted is true. There was no sound after the film's conclusion. No noise at all. No one got up. No one moved. The only sound one could hear was sobbing. In all my years of public life, I have never heard anything like that.

I told many of you that Gibson had reportedly re-shot the ending to include more "hope" through the Resurrection? That's not true. The Resurrection scene is perhaps the shortest in the entire movie - and yet it packs a punch that can't be quantified. It is perfect. There is no way to negotiate the meaning out of it. It simply asks, "Now, what will you do?"

I'll leave the details to you, in the hope that you will see the film - but one thing above all stands out, and I have to tell you about it. It comes from the end of Jesus' temptations in the wilderness - where the Bible says Satan left him "until a more opportune time." I imagine Satan never quit tempting Christ, but this film captures beyond words the most opportune time. At every step of the way, Satan is there at Jesus' side - imploring Him to quit, reasoning with Him to give up, and seducing Him to surrender. For the first time, one gets a heart-stopping idea of the sense of madness that must have enveloped Jesus - a sense of the evil that was at His very elbow. The physical punishment is relentless - but it's the sense of psychological torture that is most overwhelming. He should have quit. He should have opened His mouth. He should have called 10,000 angels. No one would have blamed Him. What we deserve is obvious. But He couldn't do that. He wouldn't do that. He didn't do that. He doesn't do that. It was not and is not His character. He was obedient, all the way to the cross - and you feel the real meaning of that phrase in a place the human heart usually doesn't dare to go. You understand that we are called to that same level of obedience. With Jesus' humanity so irresistibly on display, you understand that we have no excuse. There is no place to hide.

The truth is this: Is it just a "movie"? In a way, yes. But it goes far beyond that, in a fashion I've never felt - in any forum. We may think we "know". We know nothing. We've gone 2,000 years - used to the idea of a pleasant story, and a sanitized Christ. We expect the ending, because we've heard it so many times. God forgive us. This film tears that all away. It's is as close as any of us will ever get to knowing, until we fully know. Paul understood. "Be urgent, in and out of season."

Luke wrote that Jesus reveals Himself in the breaking of the bread. Exactly. The Passion Of The Christ shows that Bread being broken.

Go see this movie.

Jody Dean is the Dallas/Ft. Worth anchor for CBS News.


PornoDoggy 02-26-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Feb 26 2004, 09:06 AM
I'm only barely interested in this movie. I'll wait for it to come out on Showtime. I know how it ends already. Jesus promises to come back and doesn't.
My sentiments exactly.

PornoDoggy 02-26-2004 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie@Feb 26 2004, 12:27 PM
It does seem to be a rather sledgehammer hint, though.
There used to be a list (and it's probably on the net someplace) about all the bad things that happen to people who play Jesus in films.

There's another one about people who play Superman.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm ...

LeeNoga 02-26-2004 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin+Feb 26 2004, 08:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 26 2004, 08:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--LeeNoga@Feb 26 2004, 10:59 AM
I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.

Yes, why not?[/b][/quote]
Cause I would be wondering if Jesus is not really happy with my playing the part :-))

Just as well, I do not mind being a thorn in somebody's ass but I cannot wear a ring of thorns around my head.

Vick 02-26-2004 01:28 PM

The difference between a Black Velvet Elvis and Jesus Christ? ......



.... In only took one nail to hang the Black Velvet Elvis

JR 02-26-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga+Feb 26 2004, 10:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (LeeNoga @ Feb 26 2004, 10:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 26 2004, 08:01 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--LeeNoga
Quote:

@Feb 26 2004, 10:59 AM
I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.


Yes, why not?

Cause I would be wondering if Jesus is not really happy with my playing the part :-))

Just as well, I do not mind being a thorn in somebody's ass but I cannot wear a ring of thorns around my head.[/b][/quote]
deep thoughts from a lesbian pornographer nun.

Vick 02-26-2004 01:50 PM

Don't stop me if you've heard this one

Christ goes into a inn holding 3 nails and says .....
"can you put me up for the night"

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Feb 26 2004, 01:58 PM
Don't stop me if you've heard this one

Christ goes into a inn holding 3 nails and says .....
"can you put me up for the night"

What's the difference between Jesus Christ and an oil painting?

You only need one nail to hold up a picture.

Vick 02-26-2004 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin+Feb 26 2004, 02:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 26 2004, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Feb 26 2004, 01:58 PM
Don't stop me if you've heard this one

Christ goes into a inn holding 3 nails and says .....
"can you put me up for the night"

What's the difference between Jesus Christ and an oil painting?

You only need one nail to hold up a picture.[/b][/quote]
he he he

I like it better with the black velvet Elvis

but everything's better with Elvis :P

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Feb 26 2004, 02:26 PM
I like it better with the black velvet Elvis

but everything's better with Elvis :P

Elvis is a modern day Jesus. Probably as many people have spotted Elvis as Jesus.

Jesus has left the building.

Vick 02-26-2004 02:24 PM

How could we forget

http://www.jesusdressup.com/

Vick 02-26-2004 02:30 PM

http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net...es/lfjesus.jpg

"the father, the son, and the bad motherf..."

includes Ninja-Messiah throwing nails

Death Killer-Cross pump action over-under shotgun


From http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net/lfigu...es/lfjesus.html

LeeNoga 02-26-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JR+Feb 26 2004, 10:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Feb 26 2004, 10:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -LeeNoga@Feb 26 2004, 10:10 AM
Quote:

Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 26 2004, 08:01 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--LeeNoga

Quote:

Quote:

@Feb 26 2004, 10:59 AM
I mean really....would ya have continued doing the shoot?

Not me.


Yes, why not?


Cause I would be wondering if Jesus is not really happy with my playing the part :-))

Just as well, I do not mind being a thorn in somebody's ass but I cannot wear a ring of thorns around my head.

deep thoughts from a lesbian pornographer nun.[/b][/quote]
Yes, I am a lesbian

Nope, I am NOT a pornographer.

Nope, I am NOT a nun.

Do the math, your wrong 66% of the time when it comes to me.



Last edited by LeeNoga at Feb 26 2004, 01:09 PM

Almighty Colin 02-26-2004 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga@Feb 26 2004, 04:09 PM
Nope, I am NOT a pornographer.
:zoinks:

Nickatilynx 02-26-2004 04:21 PM

Quote:

Nope, I am NOT a pornographer.
(cough) bullshit!! (cough) ;-)))

You were...

or was Z-master merely "art" ?

SykkBoy 02-26-2004 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vick@Feb 26 2004, 02:38 PM
http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net...es/lfjesus.jpg

"the father, the son, and the bad motherf..."

includes Ninja-Messiah throwing nails

Death Killer-Cross pump action over-under shotgun


From http://www.jesuschristsuperstore.net/lfigu...es/lfjesus.html

I found my father's day gift


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