imho they are next. i'm pulling all new transactions from them shortly.

discuss.

why?

maybe sunshine is the next thing to go. why CCBill?

I have never been a fan of CCBill, but I am curious as to why you think they will be next?

Roughly what percentange of your current processing is with CCBill?

maybe sunshine is.. but i'd bet ccbill goes before sunshine does. it's just a question of when.

we have less than 2% of our processing with ccbill. but 2% is still enough for us to protect.

i will miss sunshine.... but not a whole lot because i live in Seattle.

seriously.... i think ALL IPSP's will go. its just a matter of "when"

i will miss sunshine.... but not a whole lot because i live in Seattle.

seriously.... i think ALL IPSP's will go. its just a matter of "when"[/b][/quote]


Yeah....

Like saying we will have a new President within then next 6 years.

it would be nice to know if there was an event. the CCBill crew invited everyone out for drinks in Seattle. maybe i can do an exclusive Oprano interview?

Hooper how about you discuss as you're the one who made the statement?

You have a good head on your shoulders

What makes YOU think this?

I think that when processors start making important business decisions on their emotional shirt sleeves that it's a bad sign for their future.

I am really lost now.

I thought people WORE their emotions on their sleeves?

I am confsued as to what means.

Is this some kind of secret code?

lol. you're right mike. it's wearing emotions on their shirt sleeves and making decisions based on that.

whatever you call it.

We were just about to launch CCbill as an alternate processor this week.

not like you to pussy foot around a point hooper ...

do us a favor and make your point already!!

how did they wear their hearts on their sleeves and make bad business decisions?

:o
Me likes ccbill.. don't scare them away.

What did they do Hooper?

Asked you to change something becasue someone there has a personal issue with you or soemthing?

I think they'll be fine.

actually at this point i'm going to stop posting.

i talked to them on the phone not long ago and it was not so discretely implied that they would terminate all of our rebills if we werent nicer.

apparently they are worried about the panic that might be caused.

I hate threads like this. Now I worry.. and if shit hits the fan in like 4 years, I will feel bad because I remember this thread then.

hahahahahhahahahahhahaa

i love how processors blackmail us into keeping our mouths quiet by using our rebills ...

its a pretty safe bet on their part :biglaugh:

sometimes, ya just gotta admit defeat - but i like how you pissed on the floor on the way out :wnw:

ps: i think ccbill has the best crew of all the 3rd party processors, they must have done something major to piss you off!!

I've been wrong about processors before - I thought IBill would be out of business by now (haven't used them as a primary processor in 2.6 years and still have rebills going through every month)

If we consider the processors that went under in the last year, most notably WSB and PSWBilling I don't see the same things going on at CCbill that caused the demise of the other processors (cross acquiring and so on) - also they didn't have the same structure and experience in the field that CCbill does

That being said it merits a pricking up of the ear about the treatment we are hearing about - but again there are 3 sides to every story

Too late. The panic has started.

not like you to pussy foot around a point hooper ...

do us a favor and make your point already!!

how did they wear their hearts on their sleeves and make bad business decisions?[/b][/quote]
I'm thinking this too. Some more facts would be nice. Especially since I've billed with them since the started and to date I don't seem to have a problem. I admit that the scrub is tight, for good reason and they are way to quick to refund but what choice do they really have.

Honestly, I think CCBILL will be the only third party to take the lead. Why? The webmaster resells interface and their desire to protect that relationship, perhaps it’s a marketing strategy but it’s still a good one because it’s builds strength with the source that truly generates revenue. Let’s face it, without webmasters and affiliate action we’re all toast.

I don’t see it. I’m not usually wrong as far as my gut goes. They have become a major driving force after Ibill and although Ibill has its transitions, we all have, it still appears to be keeping up with the times. Lets face it these times are tough.

"I like how you pissed on the floor on the way out though"

Hehe... classic :okthumb:

Might as well piss on the floor too...sounds like the well is starting to fill up.

Ok, are you actually saying then that there's something you are doing that they don't necessarily approve of? And therefore you figured you'd piss on their potted plant in return? Is that was all this fortune cookiesque thread boils down to, Hoop?

lol. there is nothing fortune cookieesque about this thread dravyk :)

i posted my opinions, i'm not going to go into the details of it.

Wow Hooper.. your opinions carry a lot of weight... talk about scaring the cattle with a whisper!

You should start up a webmaster board too! :awinky:

lol.. i do have a webmaster board. nobody posts on it. lol

Too late. The panic has started.[/b][/quote]


The Herd is moving....

that sounds about right...

Thank you, I am now totally freaked out

:(

Hooper, starting tomorrow, I drop CCBill from ALL my sites and ...

they can have ALL my rebills!!!!

:yowsa:

I can tell by the look on your avatar's face!

Sunshine??? :blink:

not like you to pussy foot around a point hooper ...

do us a favor and make your point already!!

how did they wear their hearts on their sleeves and make bad business decisions?[/b][/quote]
Hahaha.. I can just hear cj now in that aussie accent! "Get to the god damned point Hooper!!" :P

sorry. but yes. as of June 13, 2004 all sunshine will be cancelled as will all future recurring sunshine.

When I see it here again JR I'll believe that it existed :)