January 6 in Las Vegas, NV. Coin-flip for choice of weapons.

He won't show!

He might be dead by then, you should have seen him yesterday in Amsterdam lol



Last edited by QuaShe at Dec 30 2003, 06:58 AM

oh Battus was butt fucking him instead?

HAHA With that group of guys you have in Amsterdam, you must be having a ball!!

I can see it now... Someone had better video tape this, MikeAI....


Ho - Ha - Guard - Turn - Parry - Dodge - Spin - THRUST!

:bdance: :cdance: :bdance:

HAHA With that group of guys you have in Amsterdam, you must be having a ball!![/b][/quote]
I have a massive head-ache, and all I had were a few drinks. No drugs involved. :(

Define "few". :awinky:

Define "few". :awinky:[/b][/quote]
€150 worth or so.

€150 worth or so.[/b][/quote]
Mercy. That would have killed me (don't give Labret any ideas..... :P ).

I have a massive head-ache, and all I had were a few drinks. No drugs involved. :([/b][/quote]
Cheers TGF, sounds like you guys are doing it right.

Have about 8 beers and a blunt for me.

:hic:

HAHA With that group of guys you have in Amsterdam, you must be having a ball!![/b][/quote]
I think I'd probably enjoy myself over there more than I'll enjoy the InterNext show...those crazy bastards together and I prefer [Labret]'s taste in music way more than the hiphop/rap/wigger shit they play at these shows...I'm actually skipping most of the parties this year including the Player's ball due to hiphop burnout.....now if someone wanted to book a couple 80's hairbands or GWAR........

Make sure you guys tape it!! :okthumb:

I think I'd probably enjoy myself over there more than I'll enjoy the InterNext show...those crazy bastards together and I prefer [Labret]'s taste in music way more than the hiphop/rap/wigger shit they play at these shows...I'm actually skipping most of the parties this year including the Player's ball due to hiphop burnout.....now if someone wanted to book a couple 80's hairbands or GWAR........[/b][/quote]
What's with the hip hop every year ?




Have you heard the band Jet ? Great throw back to the 70s. :)

What's with the hip hop every year ?




Have you heard the band Jet ? Great throw back to the 70s. :)[/b][/quote]
It's easy enough to tell why the PB has hip hop every year - those are the people that Darren actually knows and they're easy to book.

I'm not really sure why everyone else does it though. I guess they're trying to create more of a party atomosphere by playing "current" music, but they're completely ignoring the main money-making segment of the industry (the 30+ crowd) when they do so. Their parties end up attracting the barely 20-something folks who come just for the tits and beer.

I mean I like hip hop and rap, but the *real* stuff, not today's bullshit like Eminem. Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, 2Pac *peace sign* etc... you won't find these parties playing that old-school stuff.
And I *love* techno, but it's useless to sit and listen to it with people around tables trying to get business done. Techno is for clubs with bass that will rattle your bones and lights pulsing to the music, and a huge dance floor to get lost on. I'm surprised by the number of parties that go on in restaurants (like Satines down in Florida) with techno music blasting you out. It's silly.

Some old 80's hair bands would be killer, I'm sure Motley Crue would have no problem playing for pornographers LOL although getting Vince to play with the band would be like pulling teeth nowadays (and vice-versa).
Then again could you pull together a big enough crowd to justify the cost?
Probably not.

Actually, David Lee Roth pulled pretty well a couple years ago.

Elvis Manson did well and everyone had a good time with them in Toronto.

I understand Darren books rap acts because that's what he likes and has the connections for.

I actually have connections for Motley Crue and some of the 80's hairbands (I used to book festival shows with 80's castoffs, one-hit wonders, hasbeens and never-wases as well as a couple hitmakers: Love/Hate, Gene Loves Jezebel, Tears For Fears (we booked a show one time and they just showed up and wanted to play), Giuffra, and countless others...

I think there would be a nice turnout for such a show but no one has bothered to do one. Remember, this industry is built on most people being followers. Everyone else books rap/hiphop and techno clubs/acts because the other guys are doing it. I'm approaching mid-30's now as are a lot of others who grew up on the hairbands, early thrash metal, etc. just as the upcoming generation was raisied on rap and hiphop (and Vanilla Ice...yikes)

I'll be announcing a new position I've taken at InterNext and maybe these folks would be up for such an event at future shows....

Yeah, a lot of Stones, Kinks, UFO, Styx , etc. influence there, similar to The Storkes and a lot of other bands using their guitars and getting back to the garage sounds.

In fact when I heard Jet's new song the first time, I thought it was a Kinks song I'd never heard before.

Yeah, a lot of Stones, Kinks, UFO, Styx , etc. influence there, similar to The Storkes and a lot of other bands using their guitars and getting back to the garage sounds.

In fact when I heard Jet's new song the first time, I thought it was a Kinks song I'd never heard before.[/b][/quote]
The whole cd is great ! There is even a bit of John Lennon influence

It's easy enough to tell why the PB has hip hop every year - those are the people that Darren actually knows and they're easy to book.

I'm not really sure why everyone else does it though. I guess they're trying to create more of a party atomosphere by playing "current" music, but they're completely ignoring the main money-making segment of the industry (the 30+ crowd) when they do so. Their parties end up attracting the barely 20-something folks who come just for the tits and beer.

I mean I like hip hop and rap, but the *real* stuff, not today's bullshit like Eminem. Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, 2Pac *peace sign* etc... you won't find these parties playing that old-school stuff.
And I *love* techno, but it's useless to sit and listen to it with people around tables trying to get business done. Techno is for clubs with bass that will rattle your bones and lights pulsing to the music, and a huge dance floor to get lost on. I'm surprised by the number of parties that go on in restaurants (like Satines down in Florida) with techno music blasting you out. It's silly.

Some old 80's hair bands would be killer, I'm sure Motley Crue would have no problem playing for pornographers LOL although getting Vince to play with the band would be like pulling teeth nowadays (and vice-versa).
Then again could you pull together a big enough crowd to justify the cost?
Probably not.[/b][/quote]
Well, that's a shame that there is not more of a variety . I guess they have to keep the kids that promote their programs happy. LOL

its not just the over 30's who hate rap!!!

its odd nobody has ever thrown a more grungy, rock, heavy kinda party ... do it sykk!!!!

How did UFO and Styx get in the same sentence? :blink:


Also in regards to "I guess they have to keep the kids that promote their programs happy" - could it be that more money is made with/from/by those who aren't kids and don't care for hip hop and rap?

electric hellfire club, skinny puppy, kmfdm and others doing a show for a porn convention would actually make a trip to vegas worthwhile even without public disembowelments...:salute:

best of luck -
aeon

Darren is a cool cat, but this year's headliner is Naughty by Nature? Didn't they have their last hit about 10 years ago? Hardly a big name band. Granted the sponsor money isn't there like is has been in years past, but maybe that is an indicator that he needs to change the flavor of the show. I remember him mentioning bands like Foo Fighters, Linkin Park, Aerosmith. The majority of people would most likely welcome a band like that and would put their money behind it. Those bands are pretty expensive, but ANYTHING besides rap/hip-hop would be damn nice (just no Barry Manilow!). The rap is played out.
If Darren doesn't try something different, hopefully someone else will.
I'll be skipping the Players Ball this year.

Wont be in the states at that time.

Wont be in the states at that time.[/b][/quote]
Smart move - Colin's everything you claim you admire. :P

Smart move - Colin's everything you claim you admire. :P[/b][/quote]

Smart move? As if a meeting between me and Colin would degenerate into violence.

I am almost starting to admire you as well. The solace that must accompany being utterly clueless has to be incredibly comforting. Like a big down comforter of simplicity. Ignorance is indeed bliss...and for that I do admire you hill people to a certain extent.

Did Santa bring you a new banjo for xmas?

I never said nor inferred that it would - must be your overactive imagination going off....again. :P

I bet! Especially since you like to make things up about what I say and do, lol! :lol:

I have more banjos than I have teeth - I don't need another one. B)

What's wrong, sweetie - just can't stay away from this board - even when you're on vacation? :(

Wont be in the states at that time.[/b][/quote]
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amsterdam jails are nice...they have internet connection!
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Player's Ball = Pimp and Ho = want to be a pimp = most pimps are, well, "african american" = music to suit the idea = rap

Either way, too loud ANYTHING is no condusive to doing business or talking to people, and that sort of makes it hard to get things done.

I enjoyed the Flynt / Hustler thing last year with the 70's 80's throwback band, that was a bunch more fun that listening to someone rapping (barely) about shootin' dem cop and fuckin' dem hos and doin' dem drugs...

Not that I don't think the Players balls are a good idea, the early ones (like Miami) had the right vibe... now I am not so sure. We'll see, I guess.

Sykk, GWAR would be fun - especially if they have the super high pressure spayers to make sure they get all the people hiding in the corners of the room!

Alex

I would cry if the Foo Fighters played a porn convention.

:(

personally I'd much prefer Me First and the Gimmie Gimmies

he he he he

Jail? I don't think anything is illegal in amsterdam...

Did Santa bring you a new banjo for xmas?[/quote]
Santa brought me a work-out gym :bdance:

How did UFO and Styx get in the same sentence? :blink:


Also in regards to "I guess they have to keep the kids that promote their programs happy" - could it be that more money is made with/from/by those who aren't kids and don't care for hip hop and rap?[/b][/quote]
I Saw Michael Schenker Group 5/6 years ago. Awesome.

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Jail? I don't think anything is illegal in amsterdam...[/b][/quote]
I'll let you know after I try borrowing Van Gogh from the museum
;-))))

You still in town?

You should have eaten the mushrooms that night. Be glad you were not around for New Years eve when the seriously fucked up mushrooms made an appearance. I still have two boxes of them in my fridge just daring me to eat them.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 3 2004, 06:39 AM

You still in town?

You should have eaten the mushrooms that night. Be glad you were not around for New Years eve when the seriously fucked up mushrooms made an appearance. I still have two boxes of them in my fridge just daring me to eat them.[/b][/quote]
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as I thought....
the so called self proclaimed "intellectual" is nothing but a drugs junkie....

I *just* arrived back home. I owe you guys drinks though... quiet paypalled me $400 to buy all of you fuckers drinks... I took the money and flew home. Sorry, but I couldn't get ahold of any of you. bastards.

Enjoy the shrooms on my behalf as well, I doubt they're for me. :)