Dear Islam:

It's been awhile, but I see the game remains the same: Iraq, Indonesia, India, and, of course, Israel. And that's only the places starting with I! I don't know what to make of that pattern, but I will advise staying out of Indiana.

I just wanted to let you know how I've been uncomfortably numb for most of the day. I gave an acquaintance a lift to the bus station this sunny morning, and she confided in me that we were attacked because Bush was in the White House. I was speechless. I can only wonder how many others across the world buy into that.

However, I was reminded that Western Civilization blenches the moment it starts treating you like an adult. The moral relativism excuse train pulls into more stations than usual just to make sure your fragile, little self-image is not tarnished. I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.

I'm going to have to get back to work but just wanted to leave you with one more thought. As far as I can tell, you are the spiritual equivalent of a petulant special education student, and without the equivalent of Reformation you will always be thus.

Drop me a line when you start getting your act together.

Buff

:okthumb:

Well Arafat should be assassinated shortly if that makes you feel any better.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/801833.asp?0cv=CB10

That would rule.

purty fancy talk...for content.......... :okthumb:

Something that should have been done years ago ...

:rokk:

But isn't he a nobel peace prize owner and a legitimate democratically elected leader? :hic:
btw - That "talk" is about deporting him rather than eliminating the annoyance. As a matter of fact the talk is about "creating the circumstances needed for the removal of this person who is considered an obstacle for peace".

Now... What happend if instead of Arafat he was called Saddam? Or Bin laden? How many deliberations do you think lets say the US instead of Israel would have before using a 7 TON bomb eliminating the guy, his aids and everyone in a 50miles diameter? :salute:

>> I guess everyday people just find it too incredible that there really are a bunch of international thugs and malcontents on the loose trying to turn back the clock.

yea they are running America

Buff,

:okthumb:

Heh. Get that into a few people's email boxes and it might go viral.

Good. Let the blood of the children of the zionist fraud flow through the streets before the eyes of the God that has turned his back on them.

Buff, crossposting plagiarism is gay.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 12 2003, 04:20 AM

Good. Let the blood of the children of the zionist fraud flow through the streets before the eyes of the God that has turned his back on them.

Buff, crossposting plagiarism is gay.[/b][/quote]
Labret, I know you, but most folks here do no...

care to introduce yourself???

[Labret]'s credo would be good,
or would you call it
[Labret]'s Kampf?
;-)))

I was going to say he is not just a pretty face.. but then I would have to go shoot myself for saying that ; )

purty fancy talk...for content.......... :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Yeah, I'm smarter than I look (thank God).

Good. Let the blood of the children of the zionist fraud flow through the streets before the eyes of the God that has turned his back on them.

Buff, crossposting plagiarism is gay.[/b][/quote]
Labret,

I know I should be flattered that you think so highly of my diction that you actually accused me of plagiarism, but somehow I feel more inclined to rip off your giant, diseased sphincter-flaps and staple them to your ears so you can go as Dumbo with the chicken pox for Halloween than to thank you.

Of course, you could just apologize for being wrong.



Last edited by Buff at Sep 12 2003, 02:25 PM

Buff -

I must say, I have always been impressed with your distinct articulation in our conversations. The way you ask me to "tap that ass" always has the perfect inunciation of T and P and S
:-)

That's quite the blog.
going to have to reread that a few times.

Argh, go away you idiot! Go back to GFY!

I dunno, KK ... he and buff in the same conversation does kind of present a true balanace.

Think highly of your diction? Whatever redeeming qualities your little attempt at a psuedo-intellectual rant may have had were rendered null and void instantly when you exposed yourself the mental midget with your opening line, "Dear Islam". The rest of the rant could have been written in crayon for all it mattered. Your "diction"... it doesnt matter how many candy sprinkles you put on a dog turd, its still a dog turd. Yes wonderboy, your amazing analytical and diction skills led me to believe it was plagiarism.

"Oh goody" I thought to myself, another 9th grade theologian.

Let me see if I can explain this to you in a manner in which even you can understand sparky. Lets say that the Church of Jesus Christ Christian Aryan Nations (a christian terrorist group to many), began a campaign of church bombings and selective assassinations. Would it wise of me to open my message board magnum opus with "Dear Christians"? Or would it be absurd to lump Christian Identity in with Catholics, Mormons, Eastern and Western Orthodox, Shakers, Baptists, blah blah blah? I am at least inclined to believe so.

Moral relativism and "reformation". Given the context of both in your brain fart, it is frighteningly evident that your grasp of history and religion is nill, and your concept of the use of moral relativism as an excuse used by some is lacking at best. Might I suggest a trip to the library? While there you should pick up a history book and take a look at what was occurring within Islam around the same exact time Xtians were killing off pagan Europe under the guise of redemption via the second hand words and blood of a dead Jew. Then come back and tell me about reformation.

So now, what was it about your post that dazzled me and led me to believe it was plagiarism? I believe the definition of plagiarism is "taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own". So yes Jethro, couching the same tired hillbilly rhetoric in pretty pretty prose and pawning it off as your own is indeed plagiarism.

And I dont know what is more tragic. The plagiarism itself, or plagiarizing the ideas of other idiots... and then crossposting it.

Stick to being content, thinking isnt your strong point.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 13 2003, 01:55 AM

I wished I woulda emailed Oberst the part of the icq logs where you said she wasnt smart enough to think up that shit on her own.

That would be funny. I am sure she would be amused.

:salute:

I wished I woulda emailed Oberst the part of the icq logs where you said she wasnt smart enough to think up that shit on her own.

That would be funny. I am sure she would be amused.

:salute:[/b][/quote]
who is Oberst?
why 2 of you talk riddles? Is this some sort of code???
;-))

Labret,

One thing I don't understand about your post.

Why can't we just kill 'em all?

Kill all WHO?

Kill all WHO?[/b][/quote]
No, they are a very important organization.

Killing off Buff and his ilk would have a disasterous effect on the economy and political landscape.

Buff, like most Americans, is a mindless consumer. He eats what he is fed. His identity, his knowledge of history and world politics comes via the flashing idiot box in the corner. And he obviously consumes alot.

What was the immediate response post 9-11? Get back on the planes, buy American, spend money, go back to normal. The economy is hurting, go back to consuming. Dont let the terrorists take your freedom. Your freedom to consume. If you stop consuming, and the economy collapses, the terrorists win. Not only was consumption the solution, it became an American's patriotic duty to consume. Freedom = consumption. Patriotism = consumption. It was partially brilliant yet mostly nauseating. Stick a flag on the minivan bitch, you are American.

Mindless fucking consumers of cultural texts. Gobbling up whatever is put before your face. Utterly oblivious.

Oh how I would love to line up the Buffs of the world and put a single bullet between their eyes. But as much as I hate to admit it, America needs Buff to survive. If we kill off the Buff, malls will cease to exist, entertainment industry would collapse, pulp style mass media... gone. Economy devastated. How do economists rate the health of this country? By looking at how much we consume. The more we consume, the healthier the economy. But the end result of mindless consumption is a soulless lump of phlegm we call an American. Cultureless and inept.

Imagine what our government would look like if they didnt have Buff sheep to lead around?

So go back to consuming you fucking vegetables, your government needs you.

What're you saving YOUR millions for?

Think highly of your diction? Whatever redeeming qualities your little attempt at a psuedo-intellectual rant may have had were rendered null and void instantly when you exposed yourself the mental midget with your opening line, "Dear Islam". The rest of the rant could have been written in crayon for all it mattered. Your "diction"... it doesnt matter how many candy sprinkles you put on a dog turd, its still a dog turd. Yes wonderboy, your amazing analytical and diction skills led me to believe it was plagiarism.

"Oh goody" I thought to myself, another 9th grade theologian.

Let me see if I can explain this to you in a manner in which even you can understand sparky. Lets say that the Church of Jesus Christ Christian Aryan Nations (a christian terrorist group to many), began a campaign of church bombings and selective assassinations. Would it wise of me to open my message board magnum opus with "Dear Christians"? Or would it be absurd to lump Christian Identity in with Catholics, Mormons, Eastern and Western Orthodox, Shakers, Baptists, blah blah blah? I am at least inclined to believe so.

Moral relativism and "reformation". Given the context of both in your brain fart, it is frighteningly evident that your grasp of history and religion is nill, and your concept of the use of moral relativism as an excuse used by some is lacking at best. Might I suggest a trip to the library? While there you should pick up a history book and take a look at what was occurring within Islam around the same exact time Xtians were killing off pagan Europe under the guise of redemption via the second hand words and blood of a dead Jew. Then come back and tell me about reformation.

So now, what was it about your post that dazzled me and led me to believe it was plagiarism? I believe the definition of plagiarism is "taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own". So yes Jethro, couching the same tired hillbilly rhetoric in pretty pretty prose and pawning it off as your own is indeed plagiarism.

And I dont know what is more tragic. The plagiarism itself, or plagiarizing the ideas of other idiots... and then crossposting it.

Stick to being content, thinking isnt your strong point.[/b][/quote]
"Mental Midget" -- The denigrator of plagiarism shares his own original, descriptive term. Or maybe he just shows himself to be an unispired hypocrite. Either way, it's not the ad hominems which concern me -- I know how superior I am to the lower life forms; rather, it's Labret's misunderstanding of the world we all share which encourages me to continue my fight against public "education" with even more ferocity.

It's a common leftist ploy to try to distinguish the so-called radical elements of Islam from the so-called mainstream of the "Religion of Peace." It's only a fringe group of psychos, you see, who want to impose the Sharia on the "free world." The average Muslim has a heart filled with love for his fellow man.

Which explains the dancing and cheering in the streets of Syria, Egypt, and the territory erroneously referred to as Palestine when the towers fell. It also explains why Muslims are at war with the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Confuciusists (my term), the Christians, the Jews, the Atheists, and any other ist or ism which doesn't drop to its knees and face Mecca five times per day. Or not.

And, of course, the leftists also love to explain to us that Islam was the shining beacon of light during the dark ages -- something which is only half true, which anyone who has "pick[ed] up a history book" about Islam ought to know. Having a blood-lusty pedophile who admitted to being inspired in part by Satan, and his followers, run around the remnants of the former Roman Empire converting people to Islam under the threat of death and assimilating into their warrior culture some mathematics and science, very little of which they developed on their own, does sound like the leftist ideal. See the former Soviet Union for evidence.

But being a misinformed and deliberately mendacious jerkoff isn't belligerent enough for Lebrat. No, his next post really iced the cake, to borrow an analogy of his....

Killing off Buff and his ilk would have a disasterous effect on the economy and political landscape.

Buff, like most Americans, is a mindless consumer. He eats what he is fed. His identity, his knowledge of history and world politics comes via the flashing idiot box in the corner. And he obviously consumes alot.

What was the immediate response post 9-11? Get back on the planes, buy American, spend money, go back to normal. The economy is hurting, go back to consuming. Dont let the terrorists take your freedom. Your freedom to consume. If you stop consuming, and the economy collapses, the terrorists win. Not only was consumption the solution, it became an American's patriotic duty to consume. Freedom = consumption. Patriotism = consumption. It was partially brilliant yet mostly nauseating. Stick a flag on the minivan bitch, you are American.

Mindless fucking consumers of cultural texts. Gobbling up whatever is put before your face. Utterly oblivious.

Oh how I would love to line up the Buffs of the world and put a single bullet between their eyes. But as much as I hate to admit it, America needs Buff to survive. If we kill off the Buff, malls will cease to exist, entertainment industry would collapse, pulp style mass media... gone. Economy devastated. How do economists rate the health of this country? By looking at how much we consume. The more we consume, the healthier the economy. But the end result of mindless consumption is a soulless lump of phlegm we call an American. Cultureless and inept.

Imagine what our government would look like if they didnt have Buff sheep to lead around?

So go back to consuming you fucking vegetables, your government needs you.[/b][/quote]
Now, this was the part which was more tragic than funny. A guy who doesn't know that "a lot" is two words (think: public "school") proclaims that television is my professor -- that I am one of the herded government baaa baaas who reacts with jerked knee in favor of that which Daddy Washington sets before me as my marching orders. This should be patently hysterical to those of you who have read anything I've ever posted here, but it should also be patently discouraging to those of you who have read anything that I've ever posted here: reading comprehension is a thing of the past.

So, yes, that's pretty ignorant of Labret; but the obvious hatred he has for his fellow man, especially his fellow Americans and their way of life, explains why he approves of Islam's attempt to destroy our culture. I'm sure he'd prefer to stone women who were raped than prosecute rapists, but Western Civilization did emerge from the dark ages.

Well, I'm not saying Labret is a lying, idiotic, leftist, douchebag faggot-- I'm just saying that tying me into his anti-consumerism drivel was a serious non sequitur, and also that he might not be a faggot.

Looks like he decided to take you on at your strength... using his weaker assets... Time to post your dick pics Labret! only way I can see for you to win from here

(Don't ponder too long before you reply.. wouldn't want anyone to think you had to TRY to out argue some content)

As I posted on GFY ...
that is funny and clever.

Seems there are some pretty decent bloggers over here.

[still lurking ...kinda]

I would jump in here and have a bit of a go with you over some of the stuff you have stated here Buff but far be it from me to look as if I am in support of Labret in any fashion whatsoever.

However, your denigration of public education is getting a little hard to take. There are some of us here that were not fortunate enough to have rich mommies and daddys to pay for a private education but still somehow managed to come out of the system with some semblance of a mind. Further, there are many stupid idiots running around this world that are the products of private education.

The purpose of education is to teach you how to learn. Those that participate in their education, rather publically funded or privately funded end up with the ability to gather facts and form opinions. Those that do not participate in their education and merely go through the process end up with a bunch of disconnected information that was fed to them by teachers with their own personal agendas.

You can go back to your Labret bashing now.

All that because I forgot to put a space between "a" and "lot"?

Destroy our culture. American culture, there is a fucking oxymoron.

I approve of "militant" Islam? Perhaps you could quote me on that? Or has your steady diet of cock and "you are either with us or against us" neo-patriot consumer rhetoric clouded your reading and comprehension abilities?

You are proof enough that America is well on its way to decaying from the inside. Help from an outside source not needed.


Leftist. So everyone that is not a super patriot is a leftist? Pretty strong argument on your behalf that you are not as simple minded as you appear to be. You are right sparky, everything is black and white, left or right.

You either love America or you love the Taliban. Right?

No, you have not been watching very much tv at all have you? From Bill O'reilly's ass to your mouth.

Its funny, at gfy I am the resident anti-semite bigot, here I am gonna be pegged the board lefty by the resident halfwhit. Good stuff.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 15 2003, 10:53 AM

They nevah tot me the diference between alot and a lot.

The vast majority of this country has been educated via the public school system. The very same educational system that built the nation that George W. Buff feels is so fantastic, is shit. Well, according to Buffy anyways.

which is the reason for my comment of:

but far be it from me to look as if I am in support of Labret in any fashion whatsoever.

It's "halfwit", halfwit.

What's this consumerism neo-con nonsense? What's this blind patriotism? Why do you accuse me of such things? When you pull this stuff out of your ass, do you occasionally grab a homing gerbil by accident?

If you want to build up straw men and throw darts at them, that's your Buff-given right. If you had gone to private school, though, you'd know that I am not a fan of Bush's -- you would know this, because you'd be able to read the plethora of disparaging comments about him (in this very forum, no less) that I've made since his election. But you're just having knee-jerk reactions, because I called out Islam.

And do me a favor: show me non-militant Islam.

Yeah, you're a moron.

I suppose we could continue to play spelling nazi. Err wait, you are the only one playing.

So I am guessing that was your way of dodging pointing out where I am left leaning lover of militant Islam?

Anywho...

You are a thick one.

Ill try and make this one simple for you as well. Going back to my initial post regarding the generalization of an entire faith for the actions of a particular denomination. I could easily sit here and list off passage after passage from the Torah proving my point that Judaism is rife with images of militant Judaism and anyone who considers the Torah to be the true and inspired word of God must also believe in order to spead the word of Elohim, sometimes it requires genocide. But that would be absurd would it not? For every "Muslim" terrorist group, I could probably name a Christian terrorist group. Should I lump all Xtians in with them? I find it hard to believe that someone as brilliant as yourself would actually sit there and believe that of a faith of a billion plus people, they all want to destroy America. I am no expert on various branches and denominations within Islam, just as there are literally thousands of branches of Judaism and Christianity, but I feel pretty safe in saying that there are no Sufi terrorist groups.

Here, I did the hard part for you http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...fi+terrorist%22

:salute:



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 15 2003, 11:15 AM

Alive and well and living in New York...............

http://www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/images/muslim_samp_1.gif

:yowsa:

http://www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/aris_part_two.htm

The ARIS 2001 total in Table 1, which shows 1,104,000 Muslim adults, is smaller than the figures in current circulation. Yet it is twice the number reported in the NSRI survey in 1990. Allowing for a sampling error of +/-0.5 percent, the ARIS 2001 figure maybe adjusted upwards to its maximum range of 1.0 percent of all 208 million American adults (see Table 1). With such an adjustment, the total national figure for US Muslims is 2.2 million, giving a total national population (including children) of just under 3 million. By comparison, the CUNY National Survey of Religious Identification 1990 found that 0.3 percent of respondents adhered to Islam.

.......................................

The geographical distribution reported in Table 1 is in accordance with expected patterns of residence. Muslim Americans tend to be heavily concentrated in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Detroit and Texas




http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/RelatedArtic...les.asp?did=372

The Muslim Population Riddle
August 30, 2001 by Eric Boehlert Salon.com

How many Muslims are there in America?

The answer to that seemingly straightforward question is proving difficult to answer. And following the events of Sept. 11, attempts to estimate figures have produced palpable friction between Jewish and Muslim advocacy groups, each touting its own population surveys and methodologies, and turning a typically scholarly pursuit into a politically charged one.

The results, says Dave Roozen, director of the Hartford Seminary Institute for Religion Research, is an unprecedented battle between faith groups openly questioning the size of communities.

......................................

Last spring a Muslim-sponsored study, "The Mosque in America: A National Portrait," claimed there were between 6 and 7 million Muslims in America. The report, although part of a larger study of American congregations called "Faith Communities Today" coordinated by Hartford Seminary, was sponsored by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, who leads the largest African-American Muslim organizations, and the Islamic Circle of North America.

The study's sometimes startling findings, that the number of Muslims associated with mosques had increased 300 percent since 1994, certainly bolstered the notion that Islam was among the country's fastest-growing religions.

But it also raised eyebrows, particularly within America's Jewish community, which numbers roughly 6 million. As the Baltimore Jewish Times reported last spring, "Jewish leaders worry that this Muslim population surge will generate political influence that could skew U.S. Mideast policy."

In fact, "The Mosque in America" report came just months after Arab and Muslim groups weighed in with their first ever presidential election endorsement, signaling a new political emergence for the group as a sought-after voting block. (The groups endorsed Republican George W. Bush.)




Sorry, couldn't resist...............

Carry on....................
:agrin:

So instead of showing me an example of non-militant Islam, you show me an example of militant Christianity? And you think I will take offense or something, because you assume I'm a Christian or a Jew (because you're too stupid to understand that I can call Islam a scourge, a cult of evil, without being a Christian or a Jew).

It's too bad that you're too stupid to follow a bouncing ball, because that rules out letting you work the driving range at the local golf club.

Why don't you add your IQ to your ACT score and tell me if you need to add in your shoe size or not to hit 100.

Thanks, Sarettah, for pointing out that the only place where Islam is marginally peaceful is in the United States. Note that I would have said "in the Western World", but they're not peaceful in France or England.

Yeah I guess I was a little naive in believing you could come to a semi logical conclusion. My bad.

Hey jackass, note the fucking Sufi reference. Sufi = Muslim mystics.

Now quick go find me some militant sufis that want to destroy America.

Regardless, I have class till 9 pm tonight so take your time slappy.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 15 2003, 11:49 AM

There are militant members of Islam in France, in England, and in the United States.

That does NOT mean that all of those who practice that faith subscribe to the violent teachings of the funamentalists, any more than the actions of the "Christian" fundamentalists who kill abortion doctors can be used to charactrerize the beliefs of all Christians.

Sufi suicide bomber: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Colum...,949208,00.html

Anything else, moron?

You are an idiot of astounding proportions.

"who was once Sufi"

Fucking read your own article jackass instead of jacking the first thing that pops up in google. Fucking google scholar. I am arguing with a god damn search engine.

Find me some god damned organized Sufi hate smacktard. Not a lone wacko that used to belong to a group.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 15 2003, 11:56 AM

Yes, Lot, you can find 10 good Muslims. Of that I have no doubt. Hell, 100 good Muslims. 1000 even. Maybe 10,000. 100,000? Out of what though, 1 billion?

The vast majority of muslims live under theocratic regimes and support the use of terrorism to fight the west.

People can deny this if they wish, but it's true.

You are an idiot of astounding proportions.

"who was once Sufi"

Fucking read your own article jackass instead of jacking the first thing that pops up in google. Fucking google scholar. I am arguing with a god damn search engine.

Find me some god damned organized Sufi hate smacktard. Not a lone wacko that used to belong to a group.[/b][/quote]
Obviously preaching peace to Muslims doesn't take.

Now wait just a durn second there...............

I did not say, or imply that the only non-militant muslims are in the U.S....

and even the most unreasonable person would have to admit that if even the majority of the estimated 1 billion muslims in the world could be considered militant, then we would be in a lot bigger trouble then we are.

The truth is that a small population of Muslims want to force Isalam down the rest of the world's throats, just as a small population of Christians want to force Christianity down the world's throat.

The vast majority of the world's population are content to believe what they choose to believe and feel that they will have the last laugh in heaven.

In the South Park movie, everybody dying was going to hell because they had the wrong religion. When someone asked, "well what was the right one", they were informed that it was the Mormons......

What the fuck is Isalam?

Sorry, just had to point it out before Buffy discredited you and insinuated you cant spell because you love scat porn and were sodomized by a Japanese man when you were 9, instead of addressing the issue at hand.

But other than that I just have to say take your common sense and stick it in your ass communist. Go eat some falafel and pray towards Mecca Akbar.



Last edited by [Labret] at Sep 15 2003, 12:06 PM

Buff, I'm not going to bite and play a numbers game with you.

Yes, there is a very real threat from Islamic fundamentalists. I don't think that all subscribe to that brand of Islam. You take the simple-minded approach. Not suprising, actually; - it is easier as it deesn't require anything complex, like thought. There are a lot of people who share your approach today - some of them because they are incapable of thought, some of them because it fits very well into whatever particular agenda they are trying to push forward.

The biggest problem I have is that putting something as simple-minded as your point of view into action as policy is the wet dream of the Islamic fundamentalists. Folks like you want us to become the most effective recruiter they have.

Pushaw! Everyone knows that cracking down on entire religious groups has the desired effect.

Look what it did to curb that pesky Christian problem in Rome. Perscuting those Mormons in the early days taught them a lesson. Those god damn Dutch reformers got their asses handed to them, now where are they? And the Jew problem, dont even get me started. Thank God Hitler got that problem under control.