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Buff 07-03-2003 12:41 PM

http://askbuff.com/unemployment.gif

Okay, I'm not saying 6.4% unemployment isn't really really bad, 'cause it is.

But doncha love how even though 6.4 is only about 150% of 4.2, the bar representing 6.4 on the graph is eleven times the size of the bar representing 4.2?

Ah, Reuters.

JMScore 07-03-2003 12:43 PM

Buff,

Shouldn't you be off somewhere doing a scene? ;-)

When you coming back out to LA?

Mike AI 07-03-2003 12:43 PM

Check out the big brain on Buff!!

One rule of thumb, never trust graphs, or statistics in "news" stories....

They are used the most to distort the truth....

JMScore 07-03-2003 12:44 PM

Mike...do you know what the call a Quarter Pounder w/Cheese in France? ;-)

Mike AI 07-03-2003 12:47 PM

Of course....

A royal with Cheese....


JMSCore we are going to be in your neighborhood July 14th - 28th....

Staying in Santa Monica.... I expect to spend some QT with you!

Buff 07-03-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMScore@Jul 3 2003, 10:51 AM
Buff,

Shouldn't you be off somewhere doing a scene? ;-)

When you coming back out to LA?

July 14th!!!

Buff 07-03-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 3 2003, 10:51 AM
Check out the big brain on Buff!!

One rule of thumb, never trust graphs, or statistics in "news" stories....

They are used the most to distort the truth....

Well, when I signed up for this porn thing, and they asked me if I had a big organ, it wasn't exactly a lie! Boy, were they disappointed.

sarettah 07-03-2003 12:56 PM

In this case I don't think it is media bias.

That chart is essentially the same as the one in the actual report:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Just switched to a bar graph style....

The actual chart basically puts 4% as the baseline just as reuters did....

JMScore 07-03-2003 01:03 PM

Correct, sir. Because of the metric system. Great movie.

That date is right around the corner. Definitely looking forward to hanging out....as long as Buff lays off the touchy feely this time ;-)

TheEnforcer 07-03-2003 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah@Jul 3 2003, 12:04 PM
In this case I don't think it is media bias.

That chart is essentially the same as the one in the actual report:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Just switched to a bar graph style....

The actual chart basically puts 4% as the baseline just as reuters did....

Hahaha!! Ziiinnngggg!!!!

Good one sarettah!! :rokk:

Mike AI 07-03-2003 01:13 PM

TE, do you not think that the beauracrats that have lifetime employement with this gov't, and are over whelming democrat, not biased? Look how the State Department keeps undermining Bush policies.

Just because the top 2-3 people running a department are Republican the 100,000+ employees, lifers tend to be democrats.

That and anyone who spends a lifetime working for the gov't probably is too stupid to make it in the real world, and hence puts out misleading graphs ( on purpose or just ignorance? Does it really matter?)

Oh and come on the media always manufactures and creates bullshit statistical results.

Buff 07-03-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMScore@Jul 3 2003, 11:11 AM
Correct, sir. Because of the metric system. Great movie.

That date is right around the corner. Definitely looking forward to hanging out....as long as Buff lays off the touchy feely this time ;-)

But you're the only person alive sexier than Angelina Jolie! You're asking too much of me!

Almighty Colin 07-03-2003 02:33 PM

I just downloaded the unemployment data from 1970-2002. The average annual unemployment rate was 6.29% for that period.

TheEnforcer 07-03-2003 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 3 2003, 12:21 PM
TE, do you not think that the beauracrats that have lifetime employement with this gov't, and are over whelming democrat, not biased? Look how the State Department keeps undermining Bush policies.

Just because the top 2-3 people running a department are Republican the 100,000+ employees, lifers tend to be democrats.

That and anyone who spends a lifetime working for the gov't probably is too stupid to make it in the real world, and hence puts out misleading graphs ( on purpose or just ignorance? Does it really matter?)

Oh and come on the media always manufactures and creates bullshit statistical results.

Man you conservatives are paranoid!!

You should take a cue from fellow conservative William Kristol who dismisses the bias and calls it a "crutch" that conservatives have relied on too long.

Even fellow conservatives dismissed the BS charges from Ginrich about the State Department. Bush dismissed those types of criticism outright himself as well.

Mike AI 07-03-2003 05:46 PM

TE the issues I have with the State Department go way beyond what Gingrich brought up. I am talking about the past 40+ years.... not just one or 2 examples, but systematic issues!

Not paranoid, I see it with my own eye, I wrote a paper on it in undergrad....

PornoDoggy 07-03-2003 06:21 PM

TE - come on, man. The reactionaries have been beating the "evil state department traitors" since at least the 1940s.

A mere 40 years, Mikey? :rolleyes:

Come on, man - that leaves out the period 1945-1963 which reactionaries like you really shouldn't neglect. It contains such rich material as who lost China and the Communists running rampant through the Truman Administration - and Ike is pretty suspect too, when you get right down do it.

The problem I have with that whole line of "thought" is that if it were remotely correct, we wouldn't be where we are today. I personally have been hearing that shit since the 1960s - back when folks of your stripe were prediciting that the eeeeeeeevil state department lifers would sabotage American efforts to prevail in the Cold War. Same shit, different fucking decade...

cj 07-03-2003 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMScore@Jul 3 2003, 12:11 PM
Correct, sir. Because of the metric system.
we run on the metric system too but its still called a quarter pounder here ...

Timon 07-04-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMScore@Jul 3 2003, 12:11 PM
Correct, sir. Because of the metric system. Great movie.


Nope, it's because the French are a bunch of stuck up snooty snobs...

They're called "quarter pounder" everywhere else in metric Europe ;-)

Now what do they call a $5 milk shake in France?

gigi 07-04-2003 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cj+Jul 3 2003, 03:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Jul 3 2003, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--JMScore@Jul 3 2003, 12:11 PM
Correct, sir. Because of the metric system.
we run on the metric system too but its still called a quarter pounder here ...[/b][/quote]
HAHAHA, here too CJ ;)

DrGuile 07-04-2003 03:38 PM

even here. Its called a "quart de livre" which literally translate to quarter pounder.

French are snooty fucks.

DrGuile 07-04-2003 03:46 PM

http://www.drguile.com/pic/chart.jpg


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