I've never been in favor of a boycott against French products.

For those who are:

There has been a sharp drop in wine imports from France. One importer has said they had a
$500,000 drop in sales last month.

W.J. Deutsch & Sons noted a 10% drop in sales [$100s of thousands}.

W. J. Deutsch noted: "We have seen French wines decreasing. We've seen stores take French wines off the floor of their store. We've seen major chains stop the advertising of French wines in their weekly ads." He reported substantial increases in sales of Italian, Australian and Spanish wines."

Many other similar stories reported.

French restaurants in NYC are crying for customers

Fuck France...maybe now they get the idea

u fuck withe bull....

lesson to all:
you are either with us or ...fuck u!

Pretty Funny Colin.....You do come up with them :wnw:

It is pretty amusing, the French now are all down on themselves, and think they are isolated, and are hurt....

They should have thought of this before hand when they were being blowhards....

Peolple tried to warn them, including Bush. They did not just threaten a veto but they also lobbied other countries NOT to support us ( not only at UN but in actual war where it counts).

They also supplied the Iraqis with weapons systems, spare parts for weapon systems, radios, etc.... AFTER the embargos by the UN were put on. Embargos which they voted for, and claimed would put pressure on Iraq!

I think we will find out more of their shady dealings as we get paperwork and info from Iraq.

Fuck France.... I was thinking of making a trip there within the year... I will go to Italy or Spain instead....

i took this photo in Paris

sums it all up.

http://www.pleasurelabs.com/pics/paris.jpg

i like france though Mike. Paris is really nice and a good place to be. Cannes, Nice and Monaco are really nice areas too. Monaco is really cool. I am going to get an apartment there before the end of summer.

Italy was pretty dissapointing for me. even Rome was. Venice is interesting for about 1/2 a day. Pisa is just a normal city with a little square with a church, another building and a tower that almost fell over. Rome is pretty dirty and crowded, but cool to check out the old stuff. the farther south you go in Italy, i think the worse it gets.

I spent some time in Barcelona and i it was pretty cool. Cool to check out all of Goudi's work and architecture. very clean city i thought.

Mike,

I'm sure they'll miss the tall American walking down Champes Elysee quoting Patton asking everyone if that was the "wave" they were trying at the football game or a mass surrender. :rokk:

Q. What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?
A. A salesman



Last edited by Colin at Apr 17 2003, 01:27 PM

Colin likes this place.
http://www.pleasurelabs.com/pics/barcelona.jpg

JR,
please tell us your disapointing experinces with:
Toscany, food, wines
Florence, Medici, Arts, David Statue
Milano Duomo and it's fashion boutiques,

I am all ears!

I'm sure they'll miss the tall American walking down Champes Elysee quoting Patton asking everyone if that was the "wave" they were trying at the football game or a mass surrender. :rokk:

Q. What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?
A. A salesman[/b][/quote]
Colin,
I dunno about parisienes,
but...their Treasury is missing those $$ already

JR,
please tell us your disapointing experinces with:
Toscany, food, wines
Florence, Medici, Arts, David Statue
Milano Duomo and it's fashion boutiques,

I am all ears![/b][/quote]
I did not go to Florence or Tuscany. you are a food and wine guy. i just like architecture and history more than anything.

What is "Milano Duomo"

We shoulda stayed in Milan. You were there about 10 days later and that plane also crashed into the Pirelli Building. It was like a double tragedy. ;)

http://www.sagradafamilia.com/

I agree.

It's the easily recognizable strong name-brand American products in France that I would worry about them not buying in return.

Coca Cola, McDonald's, Mickey Mouse, Baywatch, Jerry Lewis.



Last edited by Colin at Apr 17 2003, 12:44 PM

I did not go to Florence or Tuscany. you are a food and wine guy. i just like architecture and history more than anything.

What is "Milano Duomo"

We shoulda stayed in Milan. You were there about 10 days later and that plane also crashed into the Pirelli Building. It was like a double tragedy. ;)[/b][/quote]
Milano Duomo...
http://cotac.com/Italy/Milan/DSC00026.JPG
The most intricate glass works and real symphony in stone..
http://cotac.com/Italy/Milan/


If you have,'t been in Florence,
you haven't seen Italy...
;-)))

I mTOTALLT agree about South, though...Fuck Naples and thei fuckin' thives!!!
;-)))

I personnally cant stand the French. but Paris is still a nice place :)



Last edited by DrGuile at Apr 17 2003, 01:34 PM

wow Serge... it really sucks that we did not see that. looks really amazing.
i think we were going north to Austria from Venice or something and we
just stopped there and drove around and walked around. the city itself
seemed really ordinary.

i knew there had to be cool shit around but i did not have the time to
figure it out. for being one of the design and fashion capitols of the world,
i thought everything would be trendy, fashionable and cool and every taxi
would be a ferrari.

thats one of the weird things i noticed about Italy. when it comes to
fashion and design.. be it the worlds best sports cars, leather, shoes,
yatchs, or anything you can think of, they are top in the world. but the
country is basically like a third world country.



Last edited by -= JR =- at Apr 17 2003, 12:58 PM

Coca Cola shares have tumbled recently.

Reasons,I've been told ,disappointing sales (lack of travel,coke
is bought by holidaymakers at sporting events etc.)

Also I have heard a bright entrepreneur (I think in Egypt) is selling
a Cola in direct competition in Arabia with a arab friendly name and marketing program which is making huge in roads on Coke there.

ahahahahaha I used to live in Naples as a boy LOL.Just struck me as funny :)



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Apr 17 2003, 01:04 PM

your parents must be sued for child abuse!!!!!

Britts were asked:
what is the most beutiful city in the world?

- London!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many nuclear bombs would it take to completelly destroy London?

-Paris is beautiful city too!

Yes carcassone is great,

but you have too much time on your hands ;)

its HAND not hands!
;-0)))

thats a lot of cool photos Dr Guile. really neat.

:okthumb:

yeah... just not sure how I feel about my personnal pics being up on the board..

Guess I brought this on myself ;)



Last edited by DrGuile at Apr 17 2003, 01:29 PM

hmmm.....
YOU posted the URL,
it makes them fair game
;-)))

an aside....

Serge,
Can I have the tag that says:
"No you cannot marry me" ?

;-)))

sure,
make 3000 posts and you got it!
;-000

sure,
make 3000 posts and you got it!
;-000[/b][/quote]
Serge,

You didn't forget Nick is a master of automation and evil, did you?

The "old Nick" would have had a bot built to post ":)" a thousand times.

The new and improved Nick has learnt "patience in all things" :)

Yeah, Serge'll be selling posts soon enough.

haha.. the "Naples Nick" must have sucked.
:o

The "funny" - funny if it isn't your job, I suppose - thing about the boycott of French products is that the folks who'll pay are the AMERICANS who lose jobs when the companies selling French products in the United States have to start laying off workers.

But it sure is a very cool way of beating your chest and proving how red white and blue you are ...

Boycotts are great. Doesn't even matter to me who you're boycotting as long as you're doing it for a reason that's important to you.

Well, people can always find other jobs -- it's not like the money which is no longer spent on French goods and services just evaporates -- it still gets spent or invested. Someone will be the recipient of it.

In response to your condescending tone (chest beating).... It seems to me that if American citizens really believe the French approach puts them in danger, then a boycott is more than just patriotic chest thumping -- but that was a nice attempt to sneak a disingenuous red herring straw man in there, PD.

bullshit,
companies selling Napa wines will hire those guys
;-))

PD,
the end result:
France loses, we do not,
France doesn't sell anything uniqwue,
there is always US or other replacement

Look, you want to boycott French products - be my guest.

After all, I'm a liberal - we love boycotts, so I'll defend your right to boycott 'til the death. You can boycott grapes, Disneyland, Time-Warner, major league baseball, or bathing for all I care. I, for one, am boycotting business establishments attempting to cash in on the current anti-French hysteria by featuring Freedom Fries, Freedom Toast, etc.

I don't really give a fine flying fuck - since I quit drinking about the only French product I'm aware that I use is a friggin' Bic lighter.

I supported the war against Iraq and I still have a "condescending tone toward people who think that France believe the French approach puts them in danger," because I don't think there was an immenent danger from Iraq. Danger, yes, but immenent? Gimme a break.

And Serge ... France has "lost" if you have an American attention span. We shall see who has lost over the long term.

PD,
the difference between GOOD politicians and the bad ones is:
GOOD politicians can ANTICIPATE the future and DO something about it,
while the BAD ones can ONLY react to the events.

Examples:
Chamberlan, Stalin,
they were BAD politicians.

Bush Jr. is a good one,
he DID NOT wanted to wait 'till Iraq becomes IMMEDIATE danger,
AFTER suit case bomb obliteratesashington,
he saw the writing on the wall after 9/11.

If you were living in 1937,
you wouldn't call Hitler immediate danger too.

And guess what?
he wasn't immediate danger in 1944 to US.

Therefore,
your argument doesn't hold water,
just shows that u can't calculate beyond yoiur nose,
so gimme a break with your gloomy
"long term effects"
we WON THE FUCKING WAR and put ALL fuckers on NOTICE,
thank Bush for that and vaya con Dios!

Hitler to the General Staff, 1942?



Last edited by PornoDoggy at Apr 17 2003, 09:08 PM

and which victory in 1942 prompterd that, may I ask?

I think you are making 'em as you go
;-))))

bullshit,
companies selling Napa wines will hire those guys
;-))

PD,
the end result:
France loses, we do not,
France doesn't sell anything uniqwue,
there is always US or other replacement[/b][/quote]
that's right!!

its about time you started taking care of your LOYAL friends down under and buying australian wine.

there's a large range of wine's from $10 - $40 a bottle that are great for an every day meal wine, and i think you already import quite a lot of our decent wines ...

try Penfolds Bin 389 if you want a good representation of our wines, its a cabernet & shiraz blend (or Grange Hermitage if you can get ahold of it)

Brands with a good range of wines that are available in most of your stores are Penfolds (especially for nice reds), Jacobs Creek, Rosemount Estate, De Borteli, Lindemans, Wynns Coonawarra, Wolf Blass, Hardy's etc ...

Background on our wineries and regions

Analysis of our wines by an american - lots of info on individual wines if you click the 'what's in store' link after the intro text

spend your money in a country that you know will spend their money wherever you tell them to!!!!

:biglaugh:

You are quite right. That should have read April, 1941.

I know I am right, and you ARE making 'em up as you go..
Hitler attacked Russia on June 22, 1941

cj,
cheers!!!!!

I know I am right, and you ARE making 'em up as you go..
Hitler attacked Russia on June 22, 1941[/b][/quote]
Sigh. Yes, he did. Why, they even learned me that in a U.S. public school, even though we weren't in the war yet.

Conversations with the "gloomy" "defeatist" General Staff took place that spring, prior to the attack on Russia.

And before the uberpatriots jump to the conclusion I'm comparing Bush to Hitler - I'm not. It's just that I think there are a whole lot of things to shake out before we see what all the implications are to the war in Iraq.

Sergikstanian... :agrin:

PD,
the difference between GOOD politicians and the bad ones is:
GOOD politicians can ANTICIPATE the future and DO something about it,
while the BAD ones can ONLY react to the events.

Examples:
Chamberlan, Stalin,
they were BAD politicians.

Bush Jr. is a good one,
he DID NOT wanted to wait 'till Iraq becomes IMMEDIATE danger,
AFTER suit case bomb obliteratesashington,
he saw the writing on the wall after 9/11.

If you were living in 1937,
you wouldn't call Hitler immediate danger too.

And guess what?
he wasn't immediate danger in 1944 to US.

Therefore,
your argument doesn't hold water,
just shows that u can't calculate beyond yoiur nose,
so gimme a break with your gloomy
"long term effects"
we WON THE FUCKING WAR and put ALL fuckers on NOTICE,
thank Bush for that and vaya con Dios![/b][/quote]
That's right Bitches, we won the war.

Ugly Americans... With really big fucking guns.

What happened to Alex? Still haven't seen him.

Do you think we hurt his feelings? Proving him wrong and all?

Oh Fuck!!!!! I forgot and ate French Toast today :rolleyes:
Other than that I'm still good and yes I am boycotting products from france

and may their Gods bless and keep how they see fit our Australian (and UK) friends

Would rather have 2000+ Australian troops and their support than the whole stinky country of france in support (Like france could support anything long term except maybe a fucked brand of socialism)

As far as france goes - I would not allow the french to floss with the hair from my sweaty scrotum sack (PLEASE DON'T DO THE VISUAL ..... Awww too late)
but for 39.99 USD a minute I might allow the french to floss with the hair from the ballsac of the Forest clone I saw at Cirque Du Soleil tonight
:nyanya:

If france is fucked in world opinion ... they earned it and deserve it

anthony, war is the thing where people get killed - that's dead, shot, tortured, buried in the ground and no longer living. its not the superbowl.

do you think the families who now have DEAD sons and husbands and daughters and wives and uncles and aunts would appreciate the football spectator attitude?!?!? you could at least tone the gloating down a little and stop behaving like a drunk football fan on superbowl sunday, and show some sensitivity to those who DIDN'T WIN from this war ... ie, the americans, brits and australians that DIED, and their families who have nothing but 'died for the good of their country' to comfort them.

oh and the gloating is premature, being that you still have the hardest part to go. what you do with the next 2 years is the real test. assuming that terrorism & threats to democracy are all over just because 1 country's leader is out of action is a little blind, don't you think?