AdultFriendFinder.com Fake Profile Class Action Lawsuit Investigation
 

Wow Lars... who forced you to fake these profiles?

http://www.alexanderlaw.com/adultfri...FQ-ZHgodeS-rYw

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As stated before, Karma--kinda like moi--is a bitch.

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What these people don't realize is many of those fake profiles are put up by adult webmasters who then put a bot in each chat room and spam other dating sites. One does it daily and the sponsor does not cancel his account, just says, "I'll talk to him."

I've also talked to a lot of men who say virtually all the women they email are just escorts and respond with spam.

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So would you consider loading a dating site with bogus profiles, misleading customers and generally not delivering what is promised to be unethical?

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I think a lot of the bogus profiles aren't actually set up by AFF themselves, but rather spammers etc. Some may be by AFF, and as far as they go (if there are any of that kind), is it an honest thing to do? No. Unethical? Perhaps. Do I care? Not really.

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Do you promote them? If so, then you should care, because bogus profiles equals chargebacks equals no money for you

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I dont promote them no, but bogus profiles (good ones) surely also equals mores sales, far more so than the chargeback increase. If the money made each month was more with AFF than another dating site, then why would I care? They can obviously balance the chargeback volume as they're still in business.

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Back in the 900 biz we made a shitload of $$$ with bogus chicks in the chat rooms. I don't feel that was immoral or unethical.

Here's a little secret - the girls you're talking to on the paypercall lines aren't really porn models. :okthumb:

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Ive known for quite sometime where your values lie.

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Really? Where do they lie?

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"To thyself be true"

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You didn't answer my question. What exactly do you think I've done that's immoral or unethical? Or if you don't think I do things that are immoral or unethical, then state that. Playing silly word games doesn't appeal to me.

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Picking fights with someone thats fucked off doesnt appeal to me either.

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Still haven't answered my question. I'm not trying to pick a fight - I merely stated my opinions and stated them quite straightforward. I would appreciate the same from you. Is it possible? If I've done something unethical or immoral, I would like to know what it is. I'm not aware of anything and if needed, I would clarify any misperceptions you might have.

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I could you feel bogus chicks arent unethical? This is one of the reasons our industry is so fucked up short term thinkers.

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Every single girl in a paypercall room was a "bogus chick", lol. Most were grandmothers who needed some extra income and would literally be knitting baby booties while talking on the phone. It's called "fantasy" and no one in porn hasn't sold it. How many "teens" are over 19? Taking a holier than thou attitude whilst pushing porn doesn't make a lot of sense.

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And also - what's the deal with Zango?? Lars was getting slammed for using them as well.

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wait a minute did i miss something here?

you mean to tell me that these perverts lonely MF's pay for a membership upgrade and expect real people

please give me a fucking break.

lets see i am going to sue them because i can not find a friend in the real world and i expect to get a hot looking chick online to visit me and fuck me mmmmm and all for under 30 bucks?

hello fly down to panama and get a 30 buck hooker and get laid and forget about it.

jeeez.

industry? fuck.....

the adult industry is all about fantasy one more way of getting some $$$ because of some sick fuck.

i bet the lawsuit wont fly.

in fact this is kind of stupid you are selling sign ups to what? sites that show pictures of other people fucking which gives the sick fucks a way to jerk off and continue with their fantasy.

what is the difference of having a "dating" site that has a shitload of hot fake chicks and a few good ones. the fantasy here is to chat with people or to actually fuck?? wouldn't that be prostitution?

better luck at a redneck bar :)

peace

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Example 1.

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Do you fake or seed profiles on LVNCash in order to make the site more appealing to surfers?

Adult Date Link has said that they do not. Surfers seem to think that AFF does. And a few people on here think thats ok.

Id like to hear your stance on this. Does LVNCash consider themselves a cam site or a dating site?

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Pedro are you running dating sites or are you still strictly hosting?

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Excuse me , just because I work in porn doesnt mean I cant run my business with integrity and not screw customers. What bullshit because your in porn its ok to be a cheat lol.

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How is that cheating, Tony? The guys wanted a girl to talk dirty to them so they could bust a nut. That's EXACTLY what they got.

I guess you've never touched up pictures of your wife - geeze, that would cheating, lol. :whistling

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Feel free to list more. I have to admit this is the first time I've been called unethical or immoral in business or personally. At least when I say something against, I back it up with proof and don't play word games.

Actually, don't sweat it - ciao!

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if someone went into a pay per talk chatting room under the impression these were real girls,he had a possibility with thats cheating. If they understood its all fantasy thats different. You used the one bogus not me.

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Pssssst - Tony: They were ALL bogus! Yep, that's right, the girls who answered 900 number calls were NOT models, they weren't retired porn stars, most weren't even slightly attractive. Here's another bit of "cheating": they didn't cum when they said they were cumming.

Sorry to burst your bubble on this. :(

(honestly, I thought anyone who's in this biz knew this.....)

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Are you seriously this retarded, or just good at playing retarded?

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Im not.

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No easy answers here.

Where's the line between "fantasy" and outright "deception"?

Where's the line between aggressive "marketing" and "fraud"?

For me, it's in the underlying attitude and approach. I'm not trying to separate the surfer at all costs and willing to do absolutely anything I can get away with in order to do it. I am aggressive, but I do deliver what I advertise, and I do treat them with respect as any business should do a paying customer.

The results? Customer acquisition has become tougher and tougher as surfers get more and more savvy from being burned. It costs more and more to get a new paying customer. Meanwhile, I've focused on keeping the customers I have over getting new ones since 1997. It's easier to keep one than to get a new one in many businesses, our's is no different. It's worked well for me.

Most guys who run what we would've used to call "amateur" sites will tell you the same thing. Treat 'em right and they're loyal to a fault. You can have big membership numbers without having to feed 100s of new signups a day just to fight the churn.

However, the industry in general attracts people who dont really fit anywhere else and are lured by an easy dollar. Thus you get a lot of people who'd rather take a short cut, fleece the sheep for all they're worth and never worry about tomorrow or where the next buck is coming from. Just get all you can today at all costs. Now just because there are so many people in the biz with that attitude, does that make it right or acceptable? To me, no.

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He's absolutely right :okthumb: Tha shit ain't gona fly in any fucking court, plus alot people who post profile are doing it independant performer or performing a fucking fantasy. "So you think I'll get sued by some sheep organization because I like rolepaying & makebelieve I fuck sheep?????"

I DON"T FUCKING THING SO !!!

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I think I read this paragragh over about four times, "And NO, it's not because the word sheep is in there". lol

It was because I truly need to ask why people feel the need to come & gut what they can, then run? :scratchin leaving the rest of the industry to deal with the mess they left behind? The only thoughts I could come up with was "fear"?

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I"m thinking where does one draw the line on deception?
Is it when you make someone spend money thinking they're getting something they paid for? and it was not what it all seemed that you presented?

So in other words..???? This following ad is deceptive because I didn't get any rainbow with my candy?
http://myadg.com/oprano/sk_paper2.jpg

I'm being told here I'd taste a rainbow if I bought this and tasted it?

Was that deseptive? or was that advertising?
But for some reason there selling millions of bags a day.

People create profiles along the same concept, "to create an illusion or fantasy that would attract people to them, whether it be for profit, pleasure or fun. People buy cause they intrigued. Not because there's really a rainbow inside the bag.

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can't be as bad as myspace where nearly every woman is a hooker

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thats for me to know and for you to find out LOL

hi by the way LOL

it is not what i do what's important you are all targeting a site because it has fake profiles when there are lots of other businesses adult and non adult that do the same.

shit even food chains do the same you see a juicy burger on tv and get a cheese greasy one at the drive through you can complain yeah and you may get something it is a tangible good

but a dating site?? what's tangible about it? just cancel your membership you did not get what you wanted.

you guys know about it you go to a restaurant taste the food if it is shitty complain... maybe get a refund and just never go there anymore.


just to another way to agree with rcourt64
;)

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Exactly. That line in this business can often be quite wide and grey. ;) The fake profiles can be, and often are, from webmasters looking to spam shit. Don't know if AFF puts some in themselves or not. What I've seen and heard of at other places that is outright over the line are the fake e-mails sent out to lure people in as members or bring them back as members. I've never heard of or seen AFF do something like that.

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Oh, and the phone sex stuff that was being discussed isn't unethical in my book. You're selling a fantasy for a guy to whack off to using his ears and imagination.

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Regardless of if its unethical or not, if you're a guy and don't know who operates phone sex numbers (that it's not actually the girls in the pictures used for advertising them), then you're retarded enough to deserve to be tricked.

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AMEN

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Excuse me? I run a legit business, I don't fuck anyone over, I have morals and ethics and that's how I run my business.

Just because we sell sex doesn't mean we have no ethics.

Please speak for yourself.

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I think this is where I say amen.