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Jace 08-23-2006 02:54 PM

I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Time has come in my life for changes, and one of the many changes I am making is the pull myself out of the adult industry. It has nothing to do with porn or anything like that....

more to come later, but not like anyone cares....

TheEnforcer 08-23-2006 03:05 PM

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Actually it's kind of interesting. For example- Is it just you or you and your wife? Big difference given she's the focus of paysites and such.

softball 08-23-2006 03:58 PM

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Why are so many people trying (and mostly failing) to get out of adult? Its a great business.

sarettah 08-23-2006 04:36 PM

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Damn, pulling out of the industry. You failure.

First you fail at being content, now you fail at marketing content. What's the next endeavour going to be.

Just remember, the ding means the fries are done :okthumb:

softball 08-23-2006 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
Damn, pulling out of the industry. You failure.

First you fail at being content, now you fail at marketing content. What's the next endeavour going to be.

Just remember, the ding means the fries are done :okthumb:

Damn kicking a long time member when he is down. Nice work.

sarettah 08-23-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical
Damn kicking a long time member when he is down. Nice work.


March 2004 join date. Nah, I'm beating on a newbie

Z 08-23-2006 04:46 PM

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Jace, you never did anything but break my balls man. But...good luck to you.

softball 08-23-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
March 2004 join date. Nah, I'm beating on a newbie

How long you gotta be around be a regular? Is there some kind of probationary period?

Jace 08-23-2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer
Actually it's kind of interesting. For example- Is it just you or you and your wife? Big difference given she's the focus of paysites and such.

just me...her site will remain up :)

Jace 08-23-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
Damn, pulling out of the industry. You failure.

First you fail at being content, now you fail at marketing content. What's the next endeavour going to be.

Just remember, the ding means the fries are done :okthumb:

I have never failed at anything I have done...and just out of curiosity, where do you get that I failed at being content? While I made enough on the internet side to be very comfortable, being content was the most money I ever made in a that amount of time in my life

Jace 08-23-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical
Why are so many people trying (and mostly failing) to get out of adult? Its a great business.

more like moving on for me....to be totally honest, I don't like doing the same thing for so long. I love money, and I make great money in adult, but I just need to change my life around every so often or I get bored. I have enough money saved up right now so I can take a break from everything for quite a while, then I plan on travelling with the wife.

I was actually a pastry chef in Nashville for 4 years before I ever started this shit, I made fucking great money, but I just got bored with that too.

What is the purpose of life if you are just going to do the same thing over and over again?

Jace 08-23-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical
Damn kicking a long time member when he is down. Nice work.

If he was right in any way I would have been insulted, or even hurt....but fact is Russ knows nothing about me, my business or my income...so basically he is just grasping at a chance of an insult, which just makes him look bad, not me

sarettah 08-23-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
If he was right in any way I would have been insulted, or even hurt....but fact is Russ knows nothing about me, my business or my income...so basically he is just grasping at a chance of an insult, which just makes him look bad, not me


Actually I was being sarcastic and imitating Rhetorical's Sabby bashing which you joined in on.

Jace 08-23-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnAFacade
Jace, you never did anything but break my balls man. But...good luck to you.

hm...sorry about that, but I really don't remember you?

where, when and how did I break your balls?

gonzo 08-23-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
hm...sorry about that, but I really don't remember you?

where, when and how did I break your balls?

Oh you know that crazy fuck McKenzie!

Jace 08-23-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
Actually I was being sarcastic and imitating Rhetorical's Sabby bashing which you joined in on.

ah, gotcha

It wasn't really sabby bashing, well maybe a little.....it was just honestly how I felt about her, and judging from the most recent events with her, it was pretty right on

She seems like she can be a nice person and all, but has a terrible psycho side to her

sarettah 08-23-2006 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
ah, gotcha

It wasn't really sabby bashing, well maybe a little.....it was just honestly how I felt about her, and judging from the most recent events with her, it was pretty right on

She seems like she can be a nice person and all, but has a terrible psycho side to her


I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics :)

brand0n 08-23-2006 05:55 PM

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what ever floats your boat bro

ill be right here with a packed bowl and a cold one waiting on your return

just when you thought you were out.. they pull you back in..

softball 08-23-2006 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics :)

A brand change? With all respect I think it is a little more than that. Amicable? They all are in the news release. Not putting too fine a point on it Sar, but yes Sabby and I have a lot of history unfortunately, however that aside, this is far from a brand change.

Jace 08-23-2006 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
I have yet to sense any psycho side to Sabby. She doesn't like springerdude (rhetorical) and he obviously has something against her, I know it goes back a long way but I don't know the details of it.

As far as the current Sabby stuff goes I know what I have read which sounds like both she and Jayman parted amiably. I do not label a change as failure (which Rhetorical does), it is in my mind merely a change.

Sabby has been around a long time and I have always enjoyed her, especially her pics :)

anyone reading her posts on the various boards can tell that the only amicable thing about it was they both agreed to part ways....other than that there is obvious ill will

I would venture to guess that Sabby, like most solo girls starting out, wanted instant fame and riches, and when the site was open for a few weeks and had a slow start, she got like 90% of the solo girls out there and freaked out wondering why nothing was happening

I have heard the same story over and over from solo girls having someone else do their site for them
"why isn't it open yet?"
"what is taking so long?"
"this is easy to do, why is it not going faster??"
"why is there not money rolling in yet?"
"let me just buy all the content and I will do it myself"

if Sabby had all this traffic she claims to have, she would have done it herself, but my guess is that JayMan got sick of hearing her shit and told her to hit the road. It is pretty easy to be a failure in the paysite market, but you almost have to laugh when that failure comes in less than a month or two.

Trev 08-23-2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
anyone reading her posts on the various boards can tell that the only amicable thing about it was they both agreed to part ways....other than that there is obvious ill will

I would venture to guess that Sabby, like most solo girls starting out, wanted instant fame and riches, and when the site was open for a few weeks and had a slow start, she got like 90% of the solo girls out there and freaked out wondering why nothing was happening

I have heard the same story over and over from solo girls having someone else do their site for them
"why isn't it open yet?"
"what is taking so long?"
"this is easy to do, why is it not going faster??"
"why is there not money rolling in yet?"
"let me just buy all the content and I will do it myself"

if Sabby had all this traffic she claims to have, she would have done it herself, but my guess is that JayMan got sick of hearing her shit and told her to hit the road. It is pretty easy to be a failure in the paysite market, but you almost have to laugh when that failure comes in less than a month or two.

I like both parties involved so I'm happy to see the "in public good front" from them, but maybe Jayman and Sabby should never have teamed up in the first place. Jayman has had massive success in his niches and Sabby has done very very well in hers... the teaming of the two in a new area for them both might have been a bridge too far imho...

softball 08-23-2006 07:06 PM

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That site was doomed from the get go. Please take this as a professional opinion and not a personal barb. But there was never anything that gave it any kind of usp. There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

Jace 08-23-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical
That site was doomed from the get go. Please take this as a professional opinion and not a personal barb. But there was never anything that gave it any kind of usp. There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

i don't think the site was even up long enough to tell what it was going to be like as far as numbers go

fact remains, Sabby obviously has some sort of grudge against JayMan, it is obvious by the tone of her posts and some little things she has said on a lot of the boards.

Z 08-23-2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
hm...sorry about that, but I really don't remember you?

where, when and how did I break your balls?

I was living in Atlanta when I got into the biz and tried to come to a few industry functions. I just had a couple small sites, affiliate stuff mostly and I owned an escort directory and an agency.

You and a few other people said that I shouldn't come to industry events because I was a pimp, not a pornographer. No big deal, but shit happens. :rolleyes:

Toby 08-23-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical
...There was no focus. It wasn't terribly good as a milf site and it was certainly not a young girl site. I think it was a good case study in what not to do if you want to do a single girl pay site. Unless you have a good gag, your site will fail. It has nothing to do with how pretty you are, how big your boobs are, or what you shove up what orifice. It is all to do with how you do it, how you spin it and then and only then, how you market it. This is a really good lesson for newbies to observe.

You and I don't often agree, but I have to admit, I was saying almost the exact same thing to someone during a conversation yesterday evening.

Jace 08-23-2006 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Z
I was living in Atlanta when I got into the biz and tried to come to a few industry functions. I just had a couple small sites, affiliate stuff mostly and I owned an escort directory and an agency.

You and a few other people said that I shouldn't come to industry events because I was a pimp, not a pornographer. No big deal, but shit happens. :rolleyes:

oh shit, I remember that...and yes, I still stand by the fact that people that run an escort agency have no place at an Adult WEBMASTER Convention...I will always agree with that

From what I recall, I think it was made quite clear that you were 100% in the escort biz at that time, and that is what we had an issue with.

Mike AI 08-24-2006 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace

I was actually a pastry chef in Nashville for 4 years before I ever started this shit, I made fucking great money, but I just got bored with that too.

?


So you may have a redeeming quality.

Throw out some recipes please!

Jace 08-24-2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike AI
So you may have a redeeming quality.

Throw out some recipes please!

haha, shit, I don't wanna type all that shit out...but my specialty was Peanut Butter Chocolate Mousse Cake

That recipe was actually published on Godiva.com and also made it into one of their cookbooks

It is a layer of flat (unrisen) peanut butter cake, with chocolate mousse above that about 1.5 inches thick, then a peanut butter glaze over the entire thing, and drizzled with chocolate....all of this in a circle mold about 4 inches wide, and the cake stands about 2 inches tall...it looks SO nice on a plate
it takes two days to make and I can honestly say it is heavenly :)

If you ever seriously want some recipes, hit me up...I have a ton of tried and true recipes that will get any woman in bed! hahahaha...they are mostly pretty complicated though, but well worth the effort

Peaches 08-24-2006 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace
haha, shit, I don't wanna type all that shit out...but my specialty was Peanut Butter Chocolate Mousse Cake

That recipe was actually published on Godiva.com and also made it into one of their cookbooks

It is a layer of flat (unrisen) peanut butter cake, with chocolate mousse above that about 1.5 inches thick, then a peanut butter glaze over the entire thing, and drizzled with chocolate....all of this in a circle mold about 4 inches wide, and the cake stands about 2 inches tall...it looks SO nice on a plate
it takes two days to make and I can honestly say it is heavenly :)

If you ever seriously want some recipes, hit me up...I have a ton of tried and true recipes that will get any woman in bed! hahahaha...they are mostly pretty complicated though, but well worth the effort

OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Jace is bringing dessert to the Atlanta webmaster's cook out ;)

Hammer 08-24-2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace
oh shit, I remember that...and yes, I still stand by the fact that people that run an escort agency have no place at an Adult WEBMASTER Convention...I will always agree with that

From what I recall, I think it was made quite clear that you were 100% in the escort biz at that time, and that is what we had an issue with.

And why is that? You pimp your wife in a way and why woudn't anyone in the adult entertainment industry have a right to be at an adult webmaster convention? He could certainly hook up some of the girls with photograhers if they were interested in modeling too, or might need to find someone to design some sites for the escorts, or maybe he could attend the seminars and learn how to market his service on the Internet, or maybe some of his girls were there as booth babes. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons he had a right to be there, even if it's just because he paid for his fucking ticket.

softball 08-24-2006 11:49 AM

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I agree. Its all the sex trade. If you make your living out of orgasms, then you have every right to attend.

JoesHO 08-24-2006 02:17 PM

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Good luck Jace. :okthumb:

Jace 08-24-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer
And why is that? You pimp your wife in a way and why woudn't anyone in the adult entertainment industry have a right to be at an adult webmaster convention? He could certainly hook up some of the girls with photograhers if they were interested in modeling too, or might need to find someone to design some sites for the escorts, or maybe he could attend the seminars and learn how to market his service on the Internet, or maybe some of his girls were there as booth babes. I'm sure there are plenty of reasons he had a right to be there, even if it's just because he paid for his fucking ticket.

well, more than a few people, including I, felt that someone that wasn't really involved with the internet side of the biz, and also conducting an illegal business in atlanta, doesn't belong at a webmaster convention

escorting is illegal, remember that...and there is no obscene or not obscene line to find....it is illegal

sarettah 08-24-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
escorting is illegal, remember that...and there is no obscene or not obscene line to find....it is illegal


Nopers, prostitution is illegal. Escorting is legal almost everywhere, just look in the yellow pages.

softball 08-24-2006 03:56 PM

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Prostitution is legal here in Canada

gonzo 08-24-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah
Nopers, prostitution is illegal. Escorting is legal almost everywhere, just look in the yellow pages.

Not to deflect anything but the meeting Z is talking about was held in a private home. The homeowners were not comfortable with him attending so we respected their wishes.

Since then I have found out that Ive known Mackenzie all the way to days of 6card.

And now hes a program rep with Lindsey. Alls well that ends well.

sarettah 08-24-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo
Not to deflect anything but the meeting Z is talking about was held in a private home. The homeowners were not comfortable with him attending so we respected their wishes.

Since then I have found out that Ive known Mackenzie all the way to days of 6card.

And now hes a program rep with Lindsey. Alls well that ends well.


I had no issue with them not wanting someone at the gathering. I was just pointing out the obvious :)

Hammer 08-24-2006 04:07 PM

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Escort agencies are legal everywhere in the U.S. that I know of.

Jace 08-24-2006 04:24 PM

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jesus, all right, so escorting agencies are legal...

like gonzo said, the gathering was for webmasters in a private home, and they just weren't comfortable having someone that ran an escort agency be a part of it all

just out of curiosity, what is the difference between running an escort agency and being a "PImp" sending your girls off to have sexual encounters?

and why do so many escort agencies get busted on a consistant basis? because they allowed the women to knowingly have sex? well, isn't that why you call an escort agency?

softball 08-24-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace
jesus, all right, so escorting agencies are legal...

like gonzo said, the gathering was for webmasters in a private home, and they just weren't comfortable having someone that ran an escort agency be a part of it all

just out of curiosity, what is the difference between running an escort agency and being a "PImp" sending your girls off to have sexual encounters?

and why do so many escort agencies get busted on a consistant basis? because they allowed the women to knowingly have sex? well, isn't that why you call an escort agency?

Seems like you are a pimp if you run an escort agency. I think if you sell girls for a living in any way shape or form you are a pimp. Is that a bad thing?


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