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Sin 12-03-2005 10:32 PM

I cannot stand some people...
 
...I swear.

I had made a commitment to one of my friends, that I would work one of his stores for him along his delivery route (he delivers bread to a bunch of the stores around here) ...the store happened to be wal-mart. I forgot it was holiday season.

The part that I think pissed me off the most, was when this one woman was walking around with an infant (easily less than 6 months old) who was doing the "I am hungry" cry (I lived with a baby for the first 6 months & still babysit occasionally) ....and the woman was just ignoring it. She wasn't doing a goddamn thing to try to soothe her baby. For fucks sake lady, drop the materialistic seasonal greed for a few minutes, and go feed your fucking kid! Or if you're too worried they'll go "out of stock" in the relatively short time that would take, do SOMETHING to let your baby know you're aware of its demands!!

I hate some people.
Fuck Christmas.

Osiris 12-03-2005 11:08 PM

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Hahaha! Sin, have a kid or two and see how you'll act EVERY time the kid wants something to eat. If I fed my youngest everytime she literally cried she was hungry I'd have a baby elephant! :hehehe9:

Sin 12-03-2005 11:20 PM

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After listening to the screaming babies in the mall, and changing Ethan's dirty diaper after he's been constipated for 2 days, I will NEVER have children LOL (that's my take on it today at least)

Biggy 12-03-2005 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin
...I swear.

I had made a commitment to one of my friends, that I would work one of his stores for him along his delivery route (he delivers bread to a bunch of the stores around here) ...the store happened to be wal-mart. I forgot it was holiday season.

The part that I think pissed me off the most, was when this one woman was walking around with an infant (easily less than 6 months old) who was doing the "I am hungry" cry (I lived with a baby for the first 6 months & still babysit occasionally) ....and the woman was just ignoring it. She wasn't doing a goddamn thing to try to soothe her baby. For fucks sake lady, drop the materialistic seasonal greed for a few minutes, and go feed your fucking kid! Or if you're too worried they'll go "out of stock" in the relatively short time that would take, do SOMETHING to let your baby know you're aware of its demands!!

I hate some people.
Fuck Christmas.

Tell us how you really feel.

Sin 12-03-2005 11:58 PM

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Actually I feel a lot better after having some long chats with some people who are very dear to me :D

Timon 12-04-2005 01:46 AM

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oh i thought this thread was about me :(

Trev 12-04-2005 06:08 AM

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You'd hate me then... My boy usually waits until the most inopportune moment to throw down a monumental strop... there was this one time while he was going for gold, some woman and her hubby looked on while shaking their heads... I found the words: "what fuck you shaking your heads at you old cunts" just slipping out... :unsure:

domtheboy 12-04-2005 08:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin
I will NEVER have children

ah, a woman after my own heart

Osiris 12-04-2005 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
You'd hate me then... My boy usually waits until the most inopportune moment to throw down a monumental strop... there was this one time while he was going for gold, some woman and her hubby looked on while shaking their heads... I found the words: "what fuck you shaking your heads at you old cunts" just slipping out... :unsure:

I do the same thing, except I sometimes actually ask them if they have a problem with how I raise MY kids...

I also tell them to mind their own damn business..


The problem with people today is they are too goddamn nosey and want to get in on everybody else's shit instead of worrying about their own..

Trev 12-04-2005 12:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris
I do the same thing, except I sometimes actually ask them if they have a problem with how I raise MY kids...

I also tell them to mind their own damn business..


The problem with people today is they are too goddamn nosey and want to get in on everybody else's shit instead of worrying about their own..

Preach it brother :okthumb:


The other ones that really get my goat are the ones with kids over 5yrs old... when the stare at me I can't help but think it must be great for them to have fucking perfect kids... it boils my piss when parents forget how kids can be :mad:

Sin 12-04-2005 12:27 PM

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Well when Ethan was a baby, and he started having a fit, the parents at least made SOME effort to calm him down, and more often than not it worked. Infants is what I'm talking about here, not kids.

TheEnforcer 12-04-2005 12:31 PM

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This thread is certainly interesting reading for a non parent!! :)

Trev 12-04-2005 12:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin
Well when Ethan was a baby, and he started having a fit, the parents at least made SOME effort to calm him down, and more often than not it worked. Infants is what I'm talking about here, not kids.

Dan's only 21 months old... he's got a temper like his mother and it shows when he goes off on one... :(

sarettah 12-04-2005 12:36 PM

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I can stand some people would be a lot more applicable to me :blink:

Sin 12-04-2005 12:37 PM

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I don't count that as an infant, original post would show that I am talking about infants LESS than 6 months old.

sarettah 12-04-2005 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin
I don't count that as an infant, original post would show that I am talking about infants LESS than 6 months old.


Well shit, infants that young shouldn't be allowed out in public period. They should be kept in their cage in a sound proof room with many layers of thick clothing on to keep themselves from hurting themselves. That way the parents can go about their errands, go shopping, go to parties, whatever without having to worry about it.


Which is easier: unloading a truckfull of babies or unloading a truckfull of lightbulbs ?























Babies, because you can use a pitchfork on them :okthumb:

Sin 12-04-2005 12:46 PM

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Not saying they shouldn't be allowed out in public, but when they're that young, and upset, its not because they "see something they want"

And when they get older, around the 2 yr mark... I'll use myself as an example here when I was feeling prone to throwing a fit instead of my parents "fussing" or merely ignoring me, we all left the store. I quickly learned not to throw fits, and quickly learned what type of behavior is or isn't acceptable in public.

MorganGrayson 12-04-2005 12:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
You'd hate me then... My boy usually waits until the most inopportune moment to throw down a monumental strop... there was this one time while he was going for gold, some woman and her hubby looked on while shaking their heads... I found the words: "what fuck you shaking your heads at you old cunts" just slipping out... :unsure:

I've been there, Trev. I hate the parents who do the "MY child would never behave like that!" looks. I always want to say "oh, I know your child would never do that. But see, I *don't* beat my kids, so they're not afraid of me."

I had a child who took a shot at the "public tantrum to embarrass Mommy and get what I want" bit. All she got was raised eyebrow and a calm "now, do you *really* think that's going to work?" She felt a little stupid on the floor and got up.

People who have kids - and are honest with their memories - understand.
People who don't have kids, or who choose to pretend *their* children are perfect...won't.

Never go into a crowded WalMart around Christmas. They're thinking of using that as an alternative to overcrowded prisons. Commit a crime, and do the time...at WalMart during the Christmas rush.

CDSmith 12-04-2005 04:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin
I'll use myself as an example here when I was feeling prone to throwing a fit instead of my parents "fussing" or merely ignoring me, we all left the store. I quickly learned not to throw fits, and quickly learned what type of behavior is or isn't acceptable in public.

Bingo on that point. I fully agree with this.

What I can't stand about people (on this issue) is that they bring their squawling babies and loud brats out with them, to restaurants, to malls, to MOVIES, even to business meetings. Arrange to leave your kids at home for christ sakes, and if they do act up get them out of there. Let them know that when they act up, the party's over.

The other thing I can't stand though are parents who jump whenever their kid says jump. Kids need to know that it is not they who are in charge of things, they are not the center of the universe. Making a child wait for something actually teaches them the wonderful merits of having patience, which is a valuable trait in later life when one finds out that everything doesn't happen right when you want it.

MorganGrayson 12-04-2005 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Bingo on that point. I fully agree with this.

What I can't stand about people (on this issue) is that they bring their squawling babies and loud brats out with them, to restaurants, to malls, to MOVIES, even to business meetings. Arrange to leave your kids at home for christ sakes, and if they do act up get them out of there. Let them know that when they act up, the party's over.

The other thing I can't stand though are parents who jump whenever their kid says jump. Kids need to know that it is not they who are in charge of things, they are not the center of the universe. Making a child wait for something actually teaches them the wonderful merits of having patience, which is a valuable trait in later life when one finds out that everything doesn't happen right when you want it.

Someday, CD, your children will actually be welcome in public. :okthumb:

One of the most common mistakes parents make is not taking their children to restaurants from birth. If you wait until a kid is six or so before exposing them to a restaurant, you're going to get an overly stimulate kid who has no idea how to behave. If you take them to *appropriate* restaurants (family places, buffets, etc. - places that are prepared to welcome and feed small children) early in life, later on they are ready for restaurants where quiet, civilized behavior is demanded.

Newton 12-04-2005 05:02 PM

Re: I cannot stand some people...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
You'd hate me then... My boy usually waits until the most inopportune moment to throw down a monumental strop... there was this one time while he was going for gold, some woman and her hubby looked on while shaking their heads... I found the words: "what fuck you shaking your heads at you old cunts" just slipping out... :unsure:

Good man :okthumb:

Bhelliom 12-04-2005 06:13 PM

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Seems to be a day for me to rant... good time to come back... however.. I'll have to think about this one for a few minutes.

My feelings on crying children are strong... my feelings towards stupid parents are strong... and my feelings towards ineptitude, selfishness, and an apparent lack of respect for both the child and the people around that have to listen to it are stronger still....

so I'll get back to you

CDSmith 12-04-2005 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhelliom
Seems to be a day for me to rant... good time to come back... however.. I'll have to think about this one for a few minutes.

My feelings on crying children are strong... my feelings towards stupid parents are strong... and my feelings towards ineptitude, selfishness, and an apparent lack of respect for both the child and the people around that have to listen to it are stronger still....

so I'll get back to you

Based on what you've said so far I am very interested in reading what you have to say on this topic.

Looking forward to it.

PornoDoggy 12-04-2005 11:15 PM

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Wahhhh.

Babies cry. Sometime they cry because they are wet or hungry. Sometimes they cry because they can - and ain't a damned thing gonna stop them.

Don't want to listen? Go someplace else.

I can understand the complaint if you are in a fine dining resturant - something a little classier than Dennys, btw.

If you're in a department store - get a grip. People with children have as much right to shop as you do. Why do any one of us have more right to be in the store than the parent with the crying baby?

I have stuborn children. The oldest two learned pretty quickly that the tantrum got "The Look" and things would not be fun for a while.

The youngest was unintimidated with the look.

Throwing herself to the floor screaming did not embarass her.

Finding dad on the floor screaming louder seemed to do the trick.

Of course, she's 26 and doesn't like to shop with me ... :)

Nickatilynx 12-05-2005 12:15 AM

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Firstly grown ups don't fuck with me more than once , kids sure aren't ;-)))

""""when one finds out that everything doesn't happen right when you want it."""

You mean it doesn't??????WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO FUCKING WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

I'll scream and scream and make myself feel sick!!! AND I CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;-)))

Nickatilynx 12-05-2005 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoDoggy
got "The Look" and things would not be fun for a while.

The youngest was unintimidated with the look.

Throwing herself to the floor screaming did not embarass her.

Finding dad on the floor screaming louder seemed to do the trick.

:)

We have the same play book!!!!!! lol

My Dad had "the look" to perfection. I don't think anyone ever found out what happened after the look LOL

Dravyk 12-05-2005 12:22 AM

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Mommy, mommy, man turning blue, he's funny! http://oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Trev 12-05-2005 04:36 AM

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All I can say to some of the people in this thread (and many more in the real world) is if I'm ever around you and my boy is kicking off and it pisses you off... YOU better leave as a kid crying is a lot less upsetting than me throwing verbal abuse at you ;)

Sin 12-05-2005 09:07 AM

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Well luckily for everybody I have more social etiquette than to make those parents uncomfortable, instead I come here and rant. I apologize if my rant about some woman I don't even know, made any of you uncomfortable as it seems to have done.

sarettah 12-05-2005 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sin
I apologize if my rant about some woman I don't even know, made any of you uncomfortable as it seems to have done.

:blink:

Trev 12-05-2005 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sin
Well luckily for everybody I have more social etiquette than to make those parents uncomfortable, instead I come here and rant. I apologize if my rant about some woman I don't even know, made any of you uncomfortable as it seems to have done.

Please don't take my posts the wrong way, this thread was perfect for both of us, you got to rant about people like me and I got to rant about people like CDSmith and Bhelliom :yowsa:


Thanks hon :D

Sin 12-05-2005 09:58 AM

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Its an interesting collection of posts & perspectives, to be sure :)

CDSmith 12-05-2005 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev
and I got to rant about people like CDSmith and Bhelliom :yowsa:

I wasn't aware you and I had a problem.

I'm not in the habit of shooting evil stares or snide comments at people whose kids are acting up. Doesn't mean I have to like it though, and it is the way I feel about certain situations, not all. Certainly not all parents whose kids are fussing in public are labeled as anything from where I sit. I was thinking of specific incidences when I posted my rant.

To know me is to love me. To assume is to post things like "people like CDSmith" :yowsa:

CDSmith 12-05-2005 04:04 PM

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That said, some people out there in the world really do need to figure out how to discipline their kids.

And some people really should avoid becoming parents all together.

Cheers.

Trev 12-05-2005 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
I wasn't aware you and I had a problem.

I'm not in the habit of shooting evil stares or snide comments at people whose kids are acting up. Doesn't mean I have to like it though, and it is the way I feel about certain situations, not all. Certainly not all parents whose kids are fussing in public are labeled as anything from where I sit. I was thinking of specific incidences when I posted my rant.

To know me is to love me. To assume is to post things like "people like CDSmith" :yowsa:

I seem to be coming off all wrong the last few days, I've got no problems at all with you. I was taking this thread lightheartedly and I was mainly having a laugh being nasty parent. :)


Well, to an extent... those old fuckers that shook their heads were real. ;)

Trev 12-05-2005 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
That said, some people out there in the world really do need to figure out how to discipline their kids.

And some people really should avoid becoming parents all together.

Cheers.

As a parent, I couldn't agree more! :okthumb:




I believe the "look" has been mentioned already. I'm just starting to get it right... my wife had it sorted from the get go... it's the same one she uses on me. :unsure:

Sin 12-05-2005 06:48 PM

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I would have loved to gone shopping in the same store as PornoDoggy & his youngest daughter... LOL

MorganGrayson 12-05-2005 10:44 PM

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Interesting article on this topic. http://oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/smile.gif

Cafe Stirs Debate Over Kids' Behavior

By MARTHA IRVINE


CHICAGO (AP) - Dan McCauley had seen one too many kids at his cafe lying on the floor in front of the counter, careening off the glass pastry case, coming perilously close to getting their fingers pinched in the front door. So he posted a sign: "Children of all ages have to behave and use their indoor voices."

To him, it was a simple reminder to parents to keep an eye on their children and set some limits. But to some parents in his North Side Chicago neighborhood, the sign may as well have read, "If you have kids, you're not welcome."

That one little notice, adorned with pastel hand prints, has become a lightning rod in a larger debate over parenting and misbehaving children. "It's not about the kids," says McCauley, the 44-year-old owner of A Taste of Heaven cafe, who has no children but claims to like them a lot. "It's about the parents who are with them. Are they supervising and guiding them?

"I'm just asking that they are considerate to people around them."
While he has created some enemies in his neighborhood, McCauley has received hundreds of calls and more than 600 letters, the overwhelming majority of them supportive. One letter-writer from Alabama typed out in bold letters: "In my opinion, you're a hero! Keep it up."



It is a sentiment that people feel increasingly comfortable expressing. Online bloggers regularly make impassioned pleas for child-free zones in public, while e-mailers have been forwarding a photograph of a sign in an unidentified business that reads, "Unattended Children Will Be Given an Espresso and a Puppy."

While it is common policy for upscale restaurants to bar children, owners of other types of businesses also are setting limits on kids.
The Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas, for instance, does not allow visitors who aren't guests to have strollers; hotel officials say it is to prevent crashes with other pedestrians. The Bellagio Hotel does not take guests younger than 18 without special permission.

Some parents are fine with the limit-setting and complain that too many of their peers take their kids to places traditionally meant for adults, such as late-night movies and rock concerts.


Robin Piccini, a 42-year-old mom in Bridgewater, Mass., gets annoyed when she has hired a baby sitter for her daughter, only to end up seated at a restaurant next to unruly kids.

"I am paying the same price so that I can have a relaxing dinner, but because there are lazy parents out there, my dinner has to be stressful and tense," she says. "How fair is that?" Still, while they agree that some parents push the boundaries too far, other weary parents feel under siege - and misunderstood.

"Don't get me wrong. As a parent, I have an arsenal that includes the deadly stare, loss of privileges and 'We're going back to the car, RIGHT NOW!'" says Angela Toda, a 38-year-old mother of two small children in College Park, Md. "But the bottom line is, there are certain moments that all kids and parents have - and sometimes your kid is going to lose it in a public place."

She says she does not usually respond well to other people's interference, "unless it is a sympathetic look."


Parents in Port Melbourne, Australia, also were upset last year when a sign appeared on the restaurant door at the Clare Castle Hotel stating that children were welcome only if they stayed in their seats. The establishment has since changed hands and dropped the policy, which new owner Michael Farrant says makes no sense in a neighborhood filled with young families.

"I like the kids running about," says Farrant, a father of three, including a 2-year-old. "I know what it's like with a little one. Sometimes, there's no controlling them."

Still other business owners are creating separate spaces for kids and families, in an attempt to accommodate as many generations as possible.

All Booked Up in Suffolk, Va., is among bookstores that have separate sections where kids can play and rest. Many ballparks have alcohol-free "family sections." And a few restaurants have added separate dining areas for parents with children.

Zulema Suarez, a professor who studies parenting, applauds attempts to strike a balance.

"There needs to be a give and take," says Suarez, an associate professor of social work at Adelphi University in Garden City, N.Y. "Children don't need to be allowed to run wild and free, but they do need to be allowed to express themselves."

Too often, though, our cultural emphasis on freedom and individual rights gets taken to the extreme, becoming "a kind of selfish entitlement that undermines our ability to function as a civil community," says George Scarlett, a professor of child development at Tufts University in Boston.

"The rights of any one individual - whether he or she be a parent, child or stranger - do not negate the rights of others."




Sin 12-06-2005 12:24 AM

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That's a great article :)

sarettah 12-06-2005 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sin
That's a great article :)


Cool, you read it. Could you give me the cliff notes version ? :yowsa:


Thanx in advance :okthumb:


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