sponsorchat con busted I owe him !
FantasyMAN is scamming again.

The board is a con to make people pay for advertisement and scam sponsors and webmasters alike. It is hurting our business and it has to stop now.

We spotted for quite some time this mate TheButcher. In 2 month he knows more about the internet than most of us in 9 years. HE IS NO NEWBEE.

TheButcher and his moderator are posting 99% of the board's messages. Out of 7000 members, less than 50 are active. His fake usernames are all recorded , screen captured and will be made public. All those self-made members have no email address, no signature and no business as they are nicks behind thebutcher. He registers his own usernames, posts with those usernames creating the impression that sponsorchat.com is very active hoping to screw advertisers.

Sponsorchat has disabled the following options: members list, members profiles, search options, etc. to hide the information of his self made members. His only memebers are 10-20 well known people from the industry that were fooled by Ron to come post. He never paid out any of the money or contest he runs ( servers, cars, trips, cash money). All the supposed winners are his own usernames so no prize is given away.

The con is this: Ron and Butcher fools people in beleiving the board is second biggest to GFY. Advertisers pay for banners. He makes a guick penny and fame.

I want this board closed and his con reveled. The only question is: WHY IS RON RISKING EVERYTHING FOR THIS SCAM? IS IT REALLY THE FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH THAT HE WILL MAKE FROM SELLING ADVERTISMENT WORTH HIS NAME AND REPUTATION? WHAT'S YOUR POT SHOT ON IT?


peace and profit

SO WHAT MOST BOARD ADVERTISING IS A SCAM ON THOSE TYPES OF BOARDS NOTHING NEW THERE

SHIT MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON is broken like yours is TO!

Drive by spam alert.

EVERYBODY SCREAM!!!!!!!!!!!! :zoinks:

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?

If so I can’t imagine why
We’ve all got time enough to cry

Did someone forget to take their Prozac?

lol

Ron isnt involved in any scam with this board and Butcher is a newbie. Rons always helped newbies, I think this is just a case where Ron saw something that looked interesting to him and butcher needed some help so Ron obliged. The board has been around longer than Rons invovlment thats for sure.

Most of the "members" came from mainstream paid to post forums like getpaidforum.com

Cant comment much on the scamminess of it but if it is a scam then Ron is being taken for a ride with everyone else.

Currently Active Users: 1319 (35 members and 1284 guests)

His user stats kind of tells a story tho lol, how would a board been around for a month or two have so many "guests", where is that traffic coming from? He doesnt have any external links anywhere, the board is to new. Netpond has been around for 7 years or so, we have links everywhere and the most guests we get is 100 or 200 at max.

Traffic rank on Alexa is 570,250 which tells another story lmao.

Butcher runs his threads with 10 posts per thread to make threads look busy.

Butcher suffers from delusions of grandeur thats all.

Ron gotta drink more wine!!!
;)

And you are?

I do not believe that Fantasyman, would be involved in this. why risk it

The guy has plenty of money, great minds that work for him, and plenty of knowledge and balls. I think he could do much beter than that IMHO

If FM thought it a scam , he's be gone so fast it'd make yr head spin.

I have total respect for FM.

However...

I'm pretty much in agreement with Meat on this matter.

Alexa doesn't register ANYTHING.

The guy is prolly a total newb.

He is really annoying.

Ron has always helped newbies.Me included.

I think Ron may have got mixed up in something that may fart in his face.

It may be a scam , but Ron isn't involved in that

I think the guy is just a moron as you can see in this thread..

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...howtopic=15375

Currently Active Users: 2543 (32 members and 2511 guests)
Most users ever online was 2543, Today at 06:21 PM.


LOL 3 members less logged in this afternoon than the numbers i posted this morning and additional 1300 "guests" . I must be lucky I just cut these stats on his busiest ever period

Butcher is definately up to something shitty, with that many people logged in his site would be in single figures on alexa at the least.

I notice a bunch of his "members" have now been logged in for over 24 hours straight...

smelling the rat but Ron is not invovled in this chirade

I agree with ya 100% Meat , there is something very Fishy.

I am half expecting a announcement from FM saying:

" All I did was advise this newbie"

Ron is a scammer, always has been, but he has always been smooth about it - so I doubt he would be involved in something so crude.

Every top flight "playa" in this business is a scammer.

Some just hide it better than others. ;-))))

Every top flight "playa" in this business is a scammer.

Some just hide it better than others. ;-)))) [/b][/quote]
I would say this is 99% true. The adult industry is filled with scammers, its not just the top level guys, and not just internet guys.

Nick I know you like to make yourself feel better by saying you are merely one fish in a sea of theives, but in reality you just tip everyone off on where you stand.

I would say this is 99% true. The adult industry is filled with scammers, its not just the top level guys, and not just internet guys.

Nick I know you like to make yourself feel better by saying you are merely one fish in a sea of theives, but in reality you just tip everyone off on where you stand. [/b][/quote]
I'm a crook.

I'm not a hypocrite :)


;-)))

That just goes to show you, if you try to build your business on a scam or by defrauding people. YOU WILL GET CAUGHT!

I'm a crook.

I'm not a hypocrite :)


;-))) [/b][/quote]


Which is why I admire you.

Which is why I admire you. [/b][/quote]
Its mutual.

Now don't get me all tearful ;-)))

Its mutual.

Now don't get me all tearful ;-))) [/b][/quote]

http://www.cockinpuss.com/newmeter/p...small/zero.gifhttp://www.cockinpuss.com/newmeter/g.../small/100.gif

Theres a setting in Vbulletin that allows you to set the time that must pass for a user to be counted as online.. you can set it to be as many seconds as you like.. If I set mine to 604800 I could show thousands online right now :)

And, as someone said in another thread, all boards count search bots as guests. And Intomeki sends things out like those things from The Matrix. Not one, but dozens at a time! There's a lead spider, who if it finds a ton of "food" will call out and have a dozen or more buddies come by and snack everything in sight (er, or is that in site?)

Or, at least they do if you have optomized your board correctly. hehe

I'll remain smugly silent now. :)

Has been listed on Boardtracker.


ahahahahahahahahaha

Someone explain this to me please.....

How can there be a few hundred viewing that resource and yet this????

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...sponsorchat.com

Now I know alexa is not the most reliable source of data , but LOOK , not a blip!!!

Nada!

Nothing!

This is a scam being perpetrated on webmasters.....

And I don't understand why FM is involved.

I've never gotten that board.

Over 4100 viewing at the same time?

Yup and not a blip on alexa...

Its rotten.

They are all on there trying to sell there sigs , the only sponsor is CE.

Meat tells me there is professional postwhores from mainstream on there.

Its a joke and a scam.

Yet FM fully admits to being a part owner.

I really don't get it......

ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaah

Total users online 1936 !!!!!!!!

Total VIEWS today under 300!!!!

Which would be butcher and his little group refreshing threads....

WTF is going on??????

Just of out curosity
How many total users?

Believe that software will allow you to set the time a user is on-line
example - a user can log in and still be shown for days

Nick, why are you picking on FM?
He is my BEST "Traffic Management" student!

"Stats on...stats off..." he did very diligent research for that flash movie and picked up lots of points in the process
;)

I think that's what they did, Vick.

You know me lol , I'm not "anti-scam" per se.

Just when I don't see the angle...

;-))))

What interests me even more is the amount of "Don't go there " feed back I'm getting privately. LOL

And, yet, Nick, no one seems to be able to find out who Butcher really is. If anyone.

He claims he is the second busiest board after GFY.

LOL

Notice how few others are gving him shit??????

I smell an incredibly large RODENT!!!!


;-))))

I know this...

FM does not do things out of the kindness of his heart....

I've spoke icq with him.

He will not go voice.

He is either a total complete newb (which is what Meat said ) or he is playing one , very well.

But no doubt , FM is backing him

really?
He is calling me every day, 7 times a day,
begging me to allow him to put link to wine board all over his sites
;)

but....I am playing hard to get!

Now the truth will come out :)

http://www.boardtracker.com/cgi-bin/tools.pl?1

http://www.sponsorchat.com/showthread.php?t=2554

AST :)

Most users ever online was 4147, 01-12-2005 at 01:35 AM.
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Alot of names I am familliar with there from that board.

Yea, but .. that's all false info. It's not even 24 hour cookies either, it's a lot more. I've been watching the board and who logs in and is there for more than 24 hours ..

Also, divide the number of members into the number of days to see how many new members he needs per day and then go watch the "newest member is" for a while. He gets maybe 2 per day ..

Want to see something funny? View a thread and check the view counts. Refresh, the counts never go up. That's because they are manually edited in the SQL tables ..

:)