sign at protest in NYC
hmmm
what an idea
hey you republicans
how about it?
money for jobs and ed.

I suppose you think that Bush has put no money towards education and made no effort to create or encourage the creation of jobs.

Meni,

Federal spending on education under Bush has increased 65%. It is commonly said he has never met a spending bill he didn't like.

There are 5 million more people employed in the US today than there were 4 years ago. You can look up those numbers at the Department of Labor website.

January, 2004. 138.6 million employed.
1999. 133.4 million employed.

Unemployment is below its post 1960's average right now. What would you consider good unemployment numbers? I think 5.6% is more than reasonable. :okthumb:

Throwing more money at the education system as it stands is kind of like putting premium unleaded gas and high grade synthetic oil in your 1986 Yugo with 212k miles on it.

It still runs like shit, just costs more money to make it run.

They need to make teachers accountable for results and accept the fact that in some cases Johnny can't read because he is stupid and no amount of money is going to change that.

Michigan elected a Democratic govenor this last election.... she has slashed the education budget in this state so bad it's scary...

it aint a republican 'thing'

I agree with you!
Just a note though on little Johnny. Lots of studies have proven that kids' brains aren't physically developed enough to read until they're about 8 - especially boys.
There are thousands of "unschooled" kids who aren't taught to read at the common standard age of 4/5; they get to be 8 or 9 and start learning to read, and actually catch up to their age/grade reading level in 3-6 months.
But in public schools, by the time a kid is 8, they've given up trying to teach the kid how to read and just assume that he can, so he gets lost in the "one standardized way of learning for everyone" method and slips down between the cracks. He ends up "graduating" convinced that he's stupid and having given up on being able to read, when it was never him in the first place, but the way that standard education tries to make one solution fit every kid no matter what their learning style.

Why is anyone ever responding to Meni now??

He has proved himself to be a cut & paster.... he is the body building version of Luke Ford.

I doubt Meni has had an original idea dealing with politics in his life.

I have one word for you Meni: BORING

:zzz:

Stop being lazy and become a critical thinker.

It's funny to watch what catalyst it takes to get different people interested in politics.

For Meni it was the thought of not being able to listen to Howard Stern....

Meni would make a great spokesperson for autistic people. he could babble all day long about injustices like "why republicans don't demand that the ratio of female Power Rangers to male Power Rangers be equal" and then everyone would just look at him with a sympathetic smile and give him a few nickels and all could walk away feeling good about the experience without having to address the ignorance of the remarks. it would be a happy, feel good time for the whole crowd and everyone would walk away with some sense of satisfaction and accomplishment.




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I think Stern already filled that position. :awinky:

Oh, please ... Ed McMahan could run a "Star Search" for a great spokesperson for autistic people around here.

Compared to the billions over in Iraq
fuck NO

colin 3 million less jobs
since he took office pal
wake up

Mike I save that for chicks and sports

hey I hate bush
you guys like bush
there is it in a nutshell

I dont like Bush.

you are just as closed minded and shallow as those you think you hate. it is beginning to look like some sort of co-dependency scenario. you NEED Bush so you can be Meni.

Actually I prefer shaved ....

... or at least neatly trimmed

Having a discussion with Meni about Bush is kinda like discussing whether Barney the Dinosaur is gay with a 4 year old.

:P :P :P

pearl!

(or would you prefer a pearl necklace pup?) :biglaugh:

pearl!

(or would you prefer a pearl necklace pup?) :biglaugh:[/b][/quote]
I prefer to give rather than receive....!

I've been wondering this for a little while now

Hows is that possible ?
5 mil more people employed but unemployment rate was about 1% lower in 99

Was there a huge population shift in the last 5 years ?

i'd rather diamonds over pearls :P

That new avatar is making me hard too!

I've been wondering this for a little while now

Hows is that possible ?
5 mil more people employed but unemployment rate was about 1% lower in 99

Was there a huge population shift in the last 5 years ?[/b][/quote]
There were some statistics in Reader's Digest (I like my info in small doses :awinky: ) from the US Census Bureau that showed the number of births, number of deaths and number of immigrants in America. The immigrants were the main cause in our increase in population. I'm guessing that more people were AVAILABLE to be unemployed than were hired in part due to this.

I've been wondering this for a little while now

Hows is that possible ?
5 mil more people employed but unemployment rate was about 1% lower in 99

Was there a huge population shift in the last 5 years ?[/b][/quote]
How's this
the umemployment rate only counts who is COLLECTING unemployment at the moment
so its NOT ACCURATE
turn on your TV
3 million jobs lost with Bush in office

colin get your calculator out
then find out all people who aren't collecting umemployment but still are jobless

And oprano is fun
its full of old fucks who berate me cuz I hate bush

i just do it because you hate. it has nothing to do with Bush. Bush needs to go. You are no less arrogant, one sided and shallow than he is because you can only see one side of the issues. why do you think you are different than Bush?

You are like the little Bush Jr of Oprano.

i just do it because you hate. it has nothing to do with Bush. Bush needs to go. You are no less arrogant, one sided and shallow than he is because you can only see one side of the issues. why do you think you are different than Bush?

You are like the little Bush Jr of Oprano.[/b][/quote]
no, i'm Meni dude
M E N I
MENI
say it
MENI
meni


MENI

on more thing
who let the dogs out

I agree with you!
Just a note though on little Johnny. Lots of studies have proven that kids' brains aren't physically developed enough to read until they're about 8 - especially boys.
There are thousands of "unschooled" kids who aren't taught to read at the common standard age of 4/5; they get to be 8 or 9 and start learning to read, and actually catch up to their age/grade reading level in 3-6 months.
But in public schools, by the time a kid is 8, they've given up trying to teach the kid how to read and just assume that he can, so he gets lost in the "one standardized way of learning for everyone" method and slips down between the cracks. He ends up "graduating" convinced that he's stupid and having given up on being able to read, when it was never him in the first place, but the way that standard education tries to make one solution fit every kid no matter what their learning style.[/b][/quote]
That's fucking sad, too. I could read at age 2 and the current public education system is for shit... it started going down the poop shoot the same time that they eliminated corporal punishment from schools. Think I'm wrong? Check it out. Schools that can't eliminate the fucktards that have nothing better to do than bully those that actually want to learn aren't worth shit.

IMnsHO, the govt should have stayed the fuck out of schoools and left things the way they were. Now administrators spend more time on bullshit than they do on actual education.

Meni, you're a fucking idiot... and that's the nicest way I can put that. You don't have a solution for shit. All you can do is spout your hatred for Bush and blame him for everything. I almost feel sorry for your feeble-minded ass.

Since you aren't a natural-born citizen and have less than 3 decades under your belt perhaps you could enlighten us with what YOU perceive to be the solution instead of spouting tired rhetoric back at those who actually know you are a simpleton?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

:wnw: :wnw: :wnw:

brilliantly put!

oh
manchester nh isn't the USA?
solutions me?
i'm not president
talk deficit
talk jobs
talk ed
talk fucked up bullshit Iraq
talk cheney
talk the religious right
ok?
nice name
darksoft

Don't blame bush for the deficit?
don't blame bush for spending $$$$$$$$$$$$ in Iraq?
who should I blame
you dont' know me dude
Hell only time i was out of the us is visitin montreal for a few hours
born and raised in the good ole' usa
home of the free

and less than 3 decades?
thank you
i do get mistaken for mid twenties
i'll be 35 september

You have a good point there but there were other factors such as a changing society

Come on, Meni ... get with the program.

If it's a good thing, Bush is responsible.

If it's a bad thing, Bush is not responsible - it was probably Clinton, and besides, Bush is focused.

That's only if the bad thing is really bad. See, what's bad under Bush and the Republicans might have been good under Clinton (stalling the appointment of judges, for example). What's good under Bush and the Republicans was probably bad under Clinton (nation building, deficit spending).

If you cut and paste things that do not support the President - remember, he may be wrong, but he's focused - you lack the ability to think critically. If you post every possible reason for the war in Iraq except saving Iraq from gay marriage, you are have a brilliant understanding of real politik, and may even, in fact, be focused yourself.

The Cliff notes version -

Rule Number 1: Bush Good, Democrats Bad.
Rule Number 2: If it appears that Bush is bad, and it is not possible to blame Clinton and liberalactivistjudges, see rule number 1 - and remember, he's focused.

When I was going thru school, and I am a few years older then Meni, the loss of corporal punishment was the last straw that broke the camels back.

When the schools were not allowed to remove the negative influences, i.e. drug dealers, scum bags who didn't wish to learn and were thrown into the schoool system by uncaring mothers and fathers of third world countries, i.e. fucking Mexico, to babysit them because their parents couldn't be bothered, as well as the supposedly upper-class, who are no less resposnsible, that is when shit hit the fan.

Meni, you have offered NO solution. You continuously blame Bush when he has come in at the tail end of the problem. You need fucking help. Clinton was a fucking joke and he was a democrat. Regan and Bush Sr. were a fucking joke. They ALL contributed to the downfall of the American education system, as well as many other things.

You wanna blame someone? Blame yourself.

I have a 16 year old that has come up thru the same school system as I had and what it is today is fucking insane. I wouldn't wish it on anyones kids, and yet here it is. It's not the fault of Bush. Get off your Bush kick, you ignorant fuck. It happened before him and will continue long after him, your ranting aside.

Meni you're an idiot

who ever cared to count the people that have money or live off someone but dont care to work or need or want unemployment benefits ??

And Meni for someone that was born and live in the GOOD OL USA for 35 years you should remember well when anything under 6% unemployment was considered FULL FUCKIN emlpoyment.

Stay tuned tomorrow for

The Passion of the Meni
episode V, The implosion.

no, i'm Meni dude
M E N I
MENI
say it
MENI
meni


MENI

on more thing
who let the dogs out[/b][/quote]
Pass the arginine...