His newest cigarette scam is pretty much as low as i've seen anybody sink, in fact i watched the ftc railroad somebody not more than 3 months ago for the same kind of deception.

he's got this online cigarette site where it promises up and down cartons of brand name cigs for 15 bucks etc..etc.., http://onlinesmokecity.com/index_no.html (look at it, tell me that you arent led to believe that he is shipping you cigarettes at these prices.. free shipping, etc..etc..) so then when you join

when you go to purchase, you're sent to an epoch join form (im' really suprised that epoch is willing to process for this site) and the join form puts you into a 9 bucks a month recurring membership to their "club" plus two porn ezclick prechecks.

after you've paid, where do you get taken? a page that lists places where you can buy cigarettes at a discount.

between using walmarts logo, mcdonalds logo, 7-11 logo to sell his products and stealing from people who are concerned about a buck or two on a carton, he's sunk to new lows.

i'm disappointed. i thought pimpledog had what it took to go somewhere, but he's showing himself to just be an emotionally immature, small time scam artist.

You see him on GFY tonight?

Pdog did jail time for stalking. Oh my.

you are an idiot hooper.

nothing illegal about what I am doing. Infact the only reason you even started this thread was because wiseman wanted info on how todo what I was doing, and I told him to get fucked.

sucks eh?

beat you to the punch again.

btw labret, It was criminal mischief, not stalking...

when he thought you were legit, wiseman was interested in your product for about 5 whole seconds while he was drunk.

thing is that he's sober now, and you're still ripping people off.

what you're doing is not only illegal but it's wrong. and you can lie to us pimple, but you cant lie to yourself.

whats illegal about it dumbass?

I sell a membership to access a discount on smokes that are sold legally in switzerland.. you got a problem with that?

If the moron wants to join my site so be it.. or they can search google and find the smokes themselves..

its not like you are any more ethicle than me lol

you fucks at conversionscam and quickrip are a joke.

hypocrite

i think someone turned him in for hotlinking from mickey d's! (not me I could care less)


anyway, I believe epoch proccesses for shitloads for "pay for info" mexican pharmacies/european cigs type sites

sure, it's scandelous, but hey, no worse than a tour that claims "100k images" and has a hundred hosted galleries in the members section, no?

Lets face it, pimpdog is following the the steps of other scammers. He is doing nothing that R-n, Python, BabeNet, I could go on forever...

It is shady, and secretly hope that all the scammers get take down one day. But the reality is, it will never happen - not anytime soon. The web is still the Wild West - and nothing will change.

exactly

hooper thinks he is a saint because he revealed my dark secrets LOL

look in hoopers closet, he is one of the most shady fucks around besides babenet.

Nothing I do is even close to illegal.

Almost as scammy as selling a windows popup remover, when you can ealily stop them by going into the control panel...

ahahaha

you shoulda used quickbuck!

LOL

mike, comparing this joker to python, babenet and r-n is hardly fair to python, babenet and r-n. they were at least pioneers in many senses. not just running nickle and dime operations out of their trailer.

will somebody who has the links or pdf's handy from the ftc vs harvey vaugh dba click 4 mail please post them here? my understanding is that the ftc took a million bucks in cash from him and they wanted his house and cars but texas is a state where cars and homes are protected. all he was doing was charging people for access to a list of secure credit card providers.

please dont make this about me, i run honest programs pimple. and i can sleep at night, then again the ftc doesnt have their eye on me.

the ftc doesnt have to be right to win. they just have to want your balls.

Pimpdog is a child crying for attention.

wizzo, for being a barely employable job hopper you sure have a lot to say.

pimple cant fight his own fights, thats clear.

if we sell a product, we at least deliver it, which is more than i can say for you.

congrats on ruining your career, you'll have nowhere to go when you're done standing up for your little man.

and if it's attention he wants... then attention he shall have.

but not from me, i have to go watch a movie.

you guys should take this to the airwaves ;-)

from what I understand the FTC is prejudice against jews.. maybe thats why you have gotten way with the bullshit you have done for so long now...

it will catch upto you hoopie, dont worry..

I like yourself sleep like a baby..

clean up your own back yard hero.

eat a dick fatboy, and keep sending me traffic :)

Hooper I didnt realise you wanted to buy our cross sales yesterday and we turned you down..

now I know where this all comes from.. daddy told you no, and you are throwing a temper tantrum..

poor baby.

eat a dick fatboy, and keep sending me traffic :)[/b][/quote]
We send you traffic? I will direct it to hooper immediately.

pimpdog you make accusations against Hooper, what does he do that is so bad?

Put up or shut up. We don't like vague references, we need details.

wizzo, for being a barely employable job hopper you sure have a lot to say.

pimple cant fight his own fights, thats clear.

if we sell a product, we at least deliver it, which is more than i can say for you.

congrats on ruining your career, you'll have nowhere to go when you're done standing up for your little man.[/b][/quote]
Whatever... I've had 2 jobs in this industry and 1 bad partner choice... not bad for 7years in this biz... but good to know what you really think about me. Guess all that asking me for Xsales and stuff for your new scam, was just smoke up my ass...

BTW- IF you join the smoke site it you get your smokes... so I don't know what your smoking, to say we don't deliver??



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We send you traffic? I will direct it to hooper immediately.[/b][/quote]
good, because we lost about 6k on your sorry ass.



Last edited by pimpdog at Feb 5 2004, 07:47 PM

yea stick with your own kind.. its all good for accusing me of scamming, but when its thrown back at him, you back him up.. real nice.

good, because we lost about 6k on your sorry ass.[/b][/quote]
Uh huh. child.


Who owns epic cash anyways? I understand you are just a peon there?

I wish Marc De would have done us all a favor and sued the pants off this child.

yea stick with your own kind.. its all good for accusing me of scamming, but when its thrown back at him, you back him up.. real nice.[/b][/quote]
Pimpdog I am not backing Hooper up. I am curious.

I know your scams, and the way you do things. We have discussed it on GFY. I have not had the chance to look around Hooper closet for skeletons... So open the door and point me to Hoopers skeletons!

Interesting idea? Which one of you fellers will man up and come on the radio show? If you both are willing you can debate it live and see who saves face and whos OWNED!

And if one of you is only willing we will take that on too!

OWNED
Tuesday nights 8 PM EST
Brought to you by AEBN and Oprano Radio.

Interesting idea? Which one of you fellers will man up and come on the radio show? If you both are willing you can debate it live and see who saves face and whos OWNED!

And if one of you is only willing we will take that on too!

OWNED
Tuesday nights 8 PM EST
Brought to you by AEBN and Oprano Radio.[/b][/quote]
I have no problem with it. ill do it

Pimpdog I am not backing Hooper up. I am curious.

I know your scams, and the way you do things. We have discussed it on GFY. I have not had the chance to look around Hooper closet for skeletons... So open the door and point me to Hoopers skeletons![/b][/quote]
you know my scams? what the fuck does that mean? then why the fuck do you send me traffic. stick your traffic up your ass then if i am such a scammer.

I have no problem with it. ill do it[/b][/quote]
Hooper?

you know my scams? what the fuck does that mean? then why the fuck do you send me traffic. stick your traffic up your ass then if i am such a scammer.[/b][/quote]


Pimpdog, this industry is just a series of scams. It is all about how much you scam. I have gotten over my hatred of scams, I have moved on. I had to because this is a business, I have to maximize my earnings. I send traffic to CE, yet bust R-ns balls alll the time. I send you traffic, and we are not buddies, I send because you convert ( though you have been sucking lately, could it be the shave?).

Ironicly I don't send any traffic to Hooper....

think about.

So you going to point me to the skeletons? I am more curious as to see the business aspect of it, not to get in a piss with Hooper or you.

"this industry is just a series of scams" no that's a pearl! :wnw:

If Hooper doesn't reply, does that mean Pimpdog must debate himself on the Radio?

Pimpdog, this industry is just a series of scams. It is all about how much you scam. I have gotten over my hatred of scams, I have moved on. I had to because this is a business, I have to maximize my earnings. I send traffic to CE, yet bust R-ns balls alll the time. I send you traffic, and we are not buddies, I send because you convert ( though you have been sucking lately, could it be the shave?).

Ironicly I don't send any traffic to Hooper....

think about.

So you going to point me to the skeletons? I am more curious as to see the business aspect of it, not to get in a piss with Hooper or you.[/b][/quote]
if you think i shave then send your traffic elswhere. you and I had a convo once on icq about how you appreciated how upfront I was and to the point. now you do a 180 and say this shit?

fuck off man.. I dont need people like you. stick to your guns and stick by what you say and dont change your story.

I am not hiding anything, and I am not denying how I run that site. its 100% legal. I have 0 to hide.

unlike hooper, Im not going to hand his ass to him.

i take back what i said about quickscam and conversionscam and idownloadrippers

they dont make me money, so i could care less.


why he started this thread? because I turned him down. now he is mad at me cause the little bitch didnt get his way..

I am very suprised at you though forsure. I thought you were a straight shooter. apparantly I was wrong.

Selling a program to remove Window's popup messages for $29.95, when all you have to do is unclick the option in windows isn't a scam?

His new Xsale program, that even Brad said was scam, isn't a scam...

I said his new xsale program was a scam? I do not think so. I was pointing out ways around visa rules, never said it was a scam. It is smart IMHO. We send crosses to it as well.

Who owns Epic Cash? I hear Pimpdog makes $30k a year to be a board whore. true?

I said his new xsale program was a scam? I do not think so. I was pointing out ways around visa rules, never said it was a scam. It is smart IMHO. We send crosses to it as well.[/b][/quote]
well praise fucking god.. brad shaw sends him traffic.. woot woot.

and where did i say bradshaw said it?

:)

$35k

i got a raise....

Pimpdog, years ago what Hooper is doing would be considered as scamming. But today times have changed, so its accepted now.

Stay around long enough Pimp, your program may become standard practices, and you will be seen as a genuis for getting ahead of the curve.

Pimpdog, years ago what Hooper is doing would be considered as scamming. But today times have changed, so its accepted now.

Stay around long enough Pimp, your program may become standard practices, and you will be seen as a genuis for getting ahead of the curve.[/b][/quote]
so explain to me what i am doing that is any worse than what he is doing?

fuck man, quit sucking these idiots dicks and stand up for YOU.

Just because I am not in the 'cool' circle with you assholes, doesnt mean I dont make a valid point.. Break away from the oprano drama club for a sec, and speak the truth, not 1 side of it.