<laughing> here I go again!

This year has been about networking and building relationships. In the past couple of months I’ve exchanged email and ICQ chat with many people. I’ve also notice a trend on adult staffing where large adult companies are hiring more and more women in sales and executive positions.

What are your thoughts on this?

Are you a woman working for a large company and do you feel that being a woman has advantages or disadvantages?

Or are you a business owner who prefers to hire women and why?

OR are you a business owner who doesn’t care what the gender is as long as the job gets done.

OR are you a business owner who would never put a woman in a position of power?

Gotta know right now! (Meatloaf)

In my experience, having a combination of men and women in marketing positions is very good for sales. Goes like this:

Male client a) Feels like he's gotta deal with other men because it's a brotherhood, hang out, smoke cigars, talk about "man" shit kinda thing.

Male client B) Got into this business because he is horny as hell and if a woman is gonna take him for drinks and chat him up at a trade show... he's gonna buy SOMETHING.

Female client a) Likes the attention of men and takes well to flattery. Male salesman works well here.

Female client B) Is tired of men thinking they own the show. Likes to deal with other women, it's a sisterhood thing.


Hey, in the end, sales is all about psychology. People make deals with other people they connect with.

This I definately agree with.

Thanks for the feed back.

DV,
my 2c for what it's worth. I am a man who prefers doing business with women.

My experience is women as a general rule feel they have less to prove and I like that.

Additionally, I find it easier to deal with women due to chemistry. All the little nuances(sp?) a little smile here and there really helps things go along smoothly.

I've recently got my wife into the business of building pages and stuff because she has a view of things unique from my own and I find it valuable.

women rule, guys drool... :wnw:

Name a top ten player who is a woman .........................

Tricky now cj has left.

Sorry to be devils advocate but none have really made it to the majors have they?

I agree with Mark... I like having a name online that is unisex. Some think I'm a guy and it's sometimes for the best. They can't tell one way or another as long as they feel like a valued client. I think women tend to gain trust better too...

The "dumb girl" factor can pay off really well at times. Often people will say what they normally wouldn't dare say around anyone else cuz they think I have no clue what they are talking about :rolleyes: I love it.

What do you consider the "majors", Nick? Are you going by income or influence?

Thank you RRRED.

8 years ago when I was also content working as a woman had different advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes you had to deal with all kinds of toad kissing only to find out that there wasn't any intent but a stiff cock. The there were times when I used my looks to open doors. I won't lie about that. It was a trade off.

Now older and no longer content, I develop a different relationship. One I think I've always longed for based on respect and trust. I think people trust me and enjoy having a cool older woman to deal with. It's nurturing and comforting for some men. I'm not sure why but I can guess.

Thanks again. I'd like to get more women in here. Where is everyone?

RRRed

Excellent point.

There is a saying....

"The man is the head...but a smart women is the neck...she controls the direction in which the head moves"

:)

DV,

Aww go on.

Guess...............

:)

Women in the biz topic...

Whoa, thats a large area to cover and I do not know that I could simplify it in a short amount of words, will have to hit this thread like a hungry jackal on roadkill and blow it up :-)

SO I will respond to the women in marketing and large company trends.

In the beginning, there were not many women to be hired into management positions, our role as we know it now has come forth thru evolution and opportunity.

I am not sold that the gender card is an asset one way or another as far as the big companies go, but women do add flavor to marketing, and historicaly has fronted the big guys mainstream in brick and mortar for years. Usually this is where the glass ceiling comes in.....but the adult web does not have this glass ceiling and does not discriminate or prejudice women IMHO. As more and more women groomed themselves for management the more there were choices for hire.

As for the companies now its common to hire the person who can do the job, and a woman can surely penetrate more social circles which is critical for harvesting new business :-)

Awww shit!!!

Its the end of the world.!!!!! I hate writing this ...but here goes.....


Good post leenoga

:)

....ugg can't resist .... forces too strong

Pentration .... Women .... Lee Noga .... all in same post .......

Strap On (Clap, Clap) Strap Off



I had to do it

Showing why I was Asshole of the month in October 2001

I dream of being an asshole Vick.

I'm merely a simple cockholster

:(

Hey DV :) I would LOVE to see more women doing their own shit and not working for "the man". It seems like there were more women who owned their own sites back in the day. I think a LOT of them are working for big adult companies now. :(

My employees have been men. I don't know why, just circumstance I guess. It doesnt seem like there are as many female programmers out there.

If i was running an affiliate program i'd definitely be hiring a woman, and yes, a woman with some sex appeal. She couldn't be an idiot though. But
there are a lot of 20 something male webmasters with good amounts of traffic. Miss Jane from the Beverly Hillbillies ain't gonna cut it.

I'm talking about positions that deal with attracting and keeping affiliates.

For anything else, be it techie or administrative, doesn't matter if the person is male or female, just who can do the job.

Lee, how many circles have you penetrated?

:)

I cant remember her name, isnt National A1 run by a woman ?





Last edited by slavdogg at Nov 4 2002, 08:28 PM

I judge people on who they are, and what they are about - and their ability.

Of course a nice set of jugs helps! :nyanya:

Seriously though, the women who are the in the business based on ability, the ones who have the brains are nice to see and deal with.

Unfortunately most of them in the business are eye candy, or mere Board Whores...

Confucy.

:biglaugh:

Jennifer Powell

She's like 2nd in command or something, no? But still.. she could buy and sell guys like me all day long.. Good call Slav :)

"Name a top ten player who is a woman ............"
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Uh ... Meni?

:nyanya:

Didn't Carolyn Tilga start big back in the old, old days?

Peaches, I remember Carolynn Tilga... I thought she was a ball busting bitch ( in a good way) who was a player.

However about a year ago Serge got the scoop that she was merely a front for a man.

actually, how about PK?

Sure the game has changed, but a couple years ago nobody could touch her..

Menace, everyone always forgets about :inlove: PK :inlove:

There is no doubt at one time she was in the top 10, if not in the top 3.

I think, (I do not speak for her, maybe she can elaborate) , that she did not want to do the work, headaches, and problems that comes with being in the top 10. She could have been... but she has put quality of life with her sons above Playerdom...

National A1 is run buy a guy..

But i think jennifer powell is high up there too.

Mike,
In my mind if you're at or near the top of the game and choose the higher quality of life and have no financial worries.. you're THE player, not just A player. :yowsa:

Of course since I've never been to the "balls" I may be off my nut on this..


SmutNames: Richard Peiper with Jennifer as the brains behind the muscle I believe..

Menace, quality of life is VERY important - to me the most important thing.

To me this includes spending lots of time with friends and family. To be able to help those around you. To be able to travel and spend lots of quality time with those you love....

Oh NO, I feel an Oprah moment coming on... :cryin:

Quality of life IS everything and it's easy to forget that when things need to be done. I spent the last few years working on my stuff and working for companies owned by assholes and I paid for it. I made a choice to go for the buck and I dearly paid for it. Now I don't do salary only for anyone. If someone has a deal doing something that interests me and also offers commission, I'm there. There isn't any amount of money that will make me do what I did these past two years. I only work as part of a team.

It sucks to build someone's business and then have them turn to you and say, "We can only offer you salary at ****"

I turn down deals all the time. My recent one with Forest because our styles are different and I saw that there was no way it was going to balance. Its bullshit to think you MUST have stress to make money. You don't. I'll live in a tent with a satellite dish before I'll make those sacrifices again.

I liked the direction of adult internet and the concept of partnering with limited commitments. I’m an entrepreneur who enjoys doing several things. I have discipline because I’ve worked in a home office and for myself for years and years. At the same time if I need to take a day off to chill I can. There’s no trade off for that.

I work hard and enjoy making money so I can look after the people I love. I wasn't born with a silver spoon and have family commitments. If I have a few extra 1000 I'm more likely to take my neice, sister and mom on a short trip or shopping. I have a nice house and confortable with a nice retirement package. I drive an old ford pickup so I can do that. I've never been a flashy gal. I'd rather take the money I'd spend on a car payment each month to buy a plane ticket and visit a friend.

But I still have my eye on a 40 foot Sea Ray. Gotta get back to work!

Mike's getting veclempt! Someone get him a tissue!

Nickie, you shocked me sweetie :-)

I agree with what everybody else is saying. I like being free, don't do company owned very well myself. Its nice to be independent.

Do I make a nice edition to a company as an independent contractor?

Who in the hell knows, but if so it was not my *TITTIES* that got me the contract [had them whacked to B's], it was just me....LOL

Shoot, that made no sense, but too lazy to fix it :-)

So very true ! I have said it before but not here .LOL

Woman who made it to the majors? Danni Ashe from Danni Harddrive? PK didn't count?

Whats the definition of major again? LOL

Isn't Carol Cox big in the amateur field ?

Yes, but everything I've heard and read claims she's just the "talent" - the hubby does all the behind the scenes work.

Okay..

I can't get my hub to help me..
:cryin:

So I guess we can come to the conclusion that there are no big players in the major affiliate programs that are women but there are big players that have link lists and pay sites that are !

While I :inlove: Carol Cox.

Danny is the real brains behind the operation, and he does an excellent job.


One woman kingpin could be Danni Ashe - she surely plays the media well. Or at least she did.

Can I get an interview with Carol Cox?

Right On, Dianna!

Slavdogg, yep...National A1 is owned and run by both a man and a woman...her name is Sandra, his name is Richard. Jennifer Powell works directly under Richard (no pun intended ;>).

Indeed Peaches...Carolyn Tilga was 'the man' back in the day! ;)

Honeyslut, I help run the Flynt Digital affiliate program....and have been an adult webmaster for 7 years running my own membership, TGP, AVS, etc. sites and affiliate programs....does that count? :)

Personally speaking, I think it's important for any company to have a good mix of genders and varying personality types for it to be the most productive. Just my two pennies anyway...

Wow ! You are very busy, Amber !


I do the same as you minus the working for someone else, also ! I opted out on that recently for my kids and I knew I would not want to work with one of the personalities there..


:D