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I love you guys. Really!

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Then someone else posted from his computer.

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gonzo, please fix the god damned board so I can click thread tools and unsubscribe from this annoying assed thread

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Youll miss something!

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AHEM......

We now return you to your originally scheduled thread already in progress......

http://www.v1rtualdesires.com/fsg/fs-oprano.jpg

Discuss ;)

-Loki-

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Dude, just don't post and don't read it. Simple. Or is that a little beyond your blogging skills? You crack me up. Anything to sigwhore. Jace did you have to learn sigwhoring, or did it just come naturally to you? You should at least try to be a little more subtle around here.

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You killed me lol.

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Hey Jace, let me help you out, dude...

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I don't need to "prove" information (and for free) that is accessible to anyone that wants it. What I made reference to is not AN OPINION (something you obviously did not comprehend) but a VERIFIABLE FACT (we ARE talking about technology. This is not black magic, or liberal arts)
I posted all the information anyone WITH A CLUE could ever need. If you want more information, you can find more the same way I did.
And you offered nothing. Your sidekick brought some facts to the table, yet as I previously mentioned, his assumptions were much too narrow.
That was not part of the original point I made. YOU made that up. Once again, my point was and is that your claims against having been caught posting under another account by Gonzo owing to it not being technologically possible were false.
I guess you are unable to accept that you are not in control of this discussion. You tried hard, but those tricks don't work with me, Sir.
Your "offer" was meaningless and besides the point. No one claimed what you state was claimed and subsequently requested proof of. It was obviously an attempt at drawing attention away from the fact that you were caught posting under another account.
Also, it is obvious that you are the one that started talking shit . . . and you know it.
I am PERFECTLY fine with what I am doing at this time, and am not interested in what you are referring to.

When it comes down to it, I can see that you do not understand the higher level issues in the particular scenario you have made reference to, namely, that billing companies, banks, and other financial institutions and service providers are obviously not TRULY interested (other than typical suit lip service) in solving the problems, if they were, we would not see the BS we see such as the recent major theft of data that was all over the news (and no, don't fucking ask me to post a link to it - it's all over the news). The technology and personnel are CERTAINLY available to prevent such incidents . . .

Now, posting the following link is giving you more respect than you deserve, and more than I should do, however, I will do it for the sake of anyone reading this thread who is TRULY interested in what I am talking about (as opposed to trying to leech information from others, or just talking out their ass in an attempt to cover up their misdeeds)
This is an Amazon link (and don't worry, it doesn't contain an affiliate code):

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Guide-Comp...5909984&sr=8-1

This is one of the textbooks I have on the subject, and a pretty good one at that. Refer to page 280.

NOTICE: Anyone too cheap to buy the book, or too lazy to study it, or too dumb to understand it, or all three, who wants to get me to break it down for them EVEN MORE can:

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Look, read what I fucking wrote before you post.

Here is the link to one of the TEXTBOOKS I read. See page 280 for VERIFICATION of what I was referring to when I broke it all down for mediaguy:

http://www.amazon.com/TCP-Guide-Comp...5911346&sr=8-1
Also, you don't understand the context of all this. You wrote that "I was wrong" AS IF this were AN OPINION on my behalf. You are mistaken. What I have referred to is a VERIFIABLE FACT.

Buy the textbook, read it, understand it, and you will have all the answers you need in relation to the subject.

It's around $50, 1,600+ pages, and highly technical, but it's there if you want it.

Page 280.

Anyone who wants me to basically scan the page and post it here can go fuck themselves.

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Hey Moe.


























I didn't really want anything, I'm just a big fan of the 3 Stooges and felt like saying, "Hey Moe". Woo woo woo.

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What I don't get is how the hell you can get so worked up about this geek shit. You must be a hit in bars. I bet you can pick up girls faster that Lawrence Connor. This is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo freeking boring.

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Hey Moe

You're wrong. Got the texts, read the technical, and talked to a microsoft programmer.... personal network card MAC addresses aren't contained within the ethernet envelope, the TCP/IP packet or anywhere outside my LAN.

Stop posting to the contrary. You're wrong.

Quite simply you are incorrect, check with your so-called tech community, it's not there that info, you're wrong wrong wrong....TCP/IP packets carry the MAC address of the last device that forwarded them, that's it, if they had anything compared to an ARP table for some reason, all our broadband and DSL connections would be as fast as dial-up.

No MAC Address. C'est toot. you may have mis-read whatever fifty dollar text book you got, that's all and understandable... you even had me doubting what I was reading... but nope.

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Sometimes I feel like Im fishing in a baited pond.

Can I send you guys some brownies to go with those cookies?

You really really love this place!

I can tell.

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Programmer fights are great. I'd pass on a hockey game to keep watching this thread.

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Mine is posted in my signature. lol so i dont really care who posts my name. ;)

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That's cause your not Canadian. I kind find paint drying more amusing but it doesn't last as long.

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Try using oil base during cool damp weather. ;)

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I do find this amusing. I just asked the question of MAC Addresses in packets, and never got an answer. I then spent about 30 minutes checking sites (some of which I linked to in my previous post, because I believe a person should backup what he is stating) and found, conclusively, that MAC Addresses do not make up any part of a TCP/IP Packet. moetheman then has to resort to using profanity in his answer, and still has not shown a thing to back up his claim, other than an a reference to a page in some obscure networking book.

Moe, you can use all the profanity that you like, but I will state that you "are wrong". I also know that everyone else here thinks you are wrong as you refuse to support any claim you make with documentation. I backed up what I said, now please do the same. And I think we need more than the single reference that you eluded to. If what you state is accurate, you should easily be able to find backup across the 'net.

BTW, just as an aside......who is "moetheman" anyway?? Am I just having a discussion with yet another surfer/wannabe??

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Check your private messages here and you will find plenty of information there.

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- Page 7 -

I can't decide whether or not it's time for the beating a dead horse smiley. :scratchin

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:KongBeat

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oh, and btw....you all crack me up! Thanks!:yowsa:

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ummm... your sarcasm alarm should have been screaming at you. And I'm not even a big hockey fan.

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Hammer - Now I know you keep bumping this so everyone can see my apology! :waving:

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lol. 7 pages.. damn

Weather in Aspen is almost perfect :p

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Shit I forgot to change the batteries. Now I gotta go around the house and put new batteries in my smoke detectors, my co detectors, my bullshit detectors, and my asshole detectors. No big deal but do you know how much those fucking nicklemetalhydridemthaneplutoniumleadacid batteries for those fucking sarcasm alarms cost?

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Page 280. Your "microsoft programmer" is obviously fictional.

Page 280. Buy it, read it, . . . hahaha . . . how pathetic of you.

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Page 280. If I were on a tech board (not that there would be a need to) I would scan the page and temporarily upload it to a free server someplace . . . give it up, you are not going to get me to do that here, if you want quality info GET A TEXTBOOK . . .

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You got the text?

RIGHT.

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I guess your just going to stand behind your supposed single source of "proof" to back up your claim...the single source that you refuse to share. If what you say is so obviously true, you should easily be able to find reference to it all over the Internet and be able to post links to valid sites, like I did to refute your claims.

Yelling out "Page 280...Page 280...Page 280" on every one of your posts is just making you look foolish. As Ben Franklin said, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

It is time for you to give this up and concede you are wrong.

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john 3:16

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I prefer Austin 3:16 :scratchin

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I bet you do. I miss those blood soaked nights of hard core wrestling and fans with weapons. Sometimes living in the west sucks the big one. I still got a couple of t shirts that I wear. Those were great nights. Especially the guy that fell from the balcony and knocked himself unconscious in that theatre downtown.

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You are correct. I did not acquire your particular bible, I referred to texts, in the plural sense, which contained much information and instructional perhaps not included in your sacred text which seems to be the only source for the occult, secret knowledge which all other sources refute.

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flaYour logic is flawed. The fact that you cannot find something online for free means nothing as to whether or not it exists, or whether it is accurate.

I shared the source, however, if you are too cheap to buy a textbook, that's YOUR problem.

Quit trying to get me to violate copyright and post a scan of the page. Not doing it.

You all look pretty ridiculous, clamoring for an answer and refusing to buy a textbook, after someone has posted a link to it on Amazon, and given you the page number to where the information is located.

Go on, keep making asses of yourselves . . . I posted a link to the info and a page number reference. QUIT BEGGING FOR A FREEBIE ALREADY

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hoHave you any idea how ridiculous your little charade is?

"sacred text" "occult" . . . sheer childish ignorance on your behalf. I could tell you were a clown the second I saw a picture of you.

"REFUTE"? Look up the meaning of that word, I don't think that means what you think it means . . .

You two are going to look as stupid as you deserve to when someone who reads this thread gets that book (or quotes another textbook on networking) and posts the info from the page I have quoted . . .

Do you two clowns REALLY FUCKING THINK that I would post a reference to a textbook AND a page number IF I WERE NOT 100% certain that I am right?

HAHAHAHAHA

I am a programmer, you twits, my life REVOLVES around accurate information . . . not around little cheating and stealing games, like SOME people around here . . .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You two are fun . . . c'mon, keep entertaining me . . .

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Here is the cut and past from page 280... drop your email in here if you want the pdf scan of the page.

I dont have FTP access currently to the Oprano server so I cant send it up.

--------------------------280-------------------------------------------

The most important distinction between these types of addresses is the distinction between
layers two and three themselves: layer two deals with directly-connected devices (on the
same network) while layer three deals with

Converting Layer Three Addresses to Layer Two: Address Resolution

The basic problem is that IP addresses are

Key Concept:

between devices take place using layer two (hardware) addresses.

The TCP/IP Guide - Version 3.0 (Contents) �� 280
© 2001-2005 Charles M. Kozierok. All Rights Reserved.

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Now how hard was that instead of telling everyone to go buy a book to prove something?

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"The same happens for each subsequent step, until finally, the router nearest the destination sends to the destination using its data link (MAC) address."