Re: Morons.
 

It makes no sense that you would make more without an exit than you would with one unless it wasn't an exit but an enter pop and you pissed the surfer off before he looked at your tour and got to the join page. If you don't pop the exit until they are leaving, how can it affect your signups?

It's an impossiblity to make less with an exit if it's done correctly. If the sponsors you use on the exit suck you might not make any more, but certainly not less.

p.s. Let's all hope that someday Robin doesn't pull an Acacia and patent the exit pop.

Re: Morons.
 

Someone else tried.

Re: Morons.
 

Isn't that what Nick@ilynx used to preach?

Re: Morons.
 

and I appreciate that, and what they did...but what does a free host have to do with me? or exit consoles for that matter? yes, i pondered the idea of using them a few weeks ago, but I ended up not using them, so they don't concern me now

I love that people came before me an created some cool shit to help everyone make money, I think that is astounding and I will always look up to them for what they accomplished, and I am always out to learn from those that innovated, always, but at my current state in this biz I am have no use for either of those

and when people made fun of me for asking about exit consoles, when I had no idea that the creator of exit consoles posted on this board, is just plain retarded. Why, instead of being pricks and laughing, didn't someone say "hey, the guy Robin that posts on this board created them, he would be the first person to ask, he is very knowledgable about it all...."?

i dont' care how old or bitter I am, as long as I am in this biz and someone needs help, I will always be there to answer them to the best of my ability, and if I can't answer them I shut up and let someone else.....

Re: Morons.
 

Do you read Jace?

FREE HOSTS +++++ XPEEPS is just another name for FREE HOST. It's nothing new.

Exit consoles... How many times does a customer say no before saying yes to a sale? Average 7 times. Exit console is another way for you to ask for the sale.

Your problems can be easily broken down to this.

YOu are not a a salesman.

Become one, and watch your bank account grow.

Re: Morons.
 

I didn't understand it either, to be honest it could have been an off day for sales, I will admit that....but exit consoles are so intruding these days, and the way they work annoys me, so I have to imagine it would annoy others as well. If someone can find me an exit console that doesn't take over a background browser window or mess up a current windows browsing, I would be all for it....but to be honest, after all this, i would probably seek help elsewhere just for fear of being laughed at instead of helped

Re: Morons.
 

xpeeps is not a free host IMO, it is a community....i don't agree with you there...now if I could host my site on there and post galleries using their server, I would agree with you, but I can't

xpeeps is pretty much the same as vbulletin, so is every forum a free host?

Re: Morons.
 

Jace you are wrong. Xpeeps is nothing more than a free host. It may be more advanced with better ways of navigating through it, but it is still a free host. You can call it anything you want, at the end of the day, it is "FREE WEB SPACE" to sell or market a product.

Oh LOOKIE! They even put up banners to pay for the service of YOU using their FREE WEB SPACE.

As for it being the same as vbulletin, again you are incorrect. It may have come from the same code, but the usage of it is different.

Jesus.

Re: Morons.
 

we will have to just agree to disagree....

and to be honest, I have had 3 others icq'ing me thinking I am getting riled up here and telling me not to pay any attention to this shit (which I am not)...and they all agree that xpeeps is NOT a free host

it is a community, not a free host

Re: Morons.
 

I'm not laughing at you, I'm just trying to help you understand.

The surfer might be annoyed but we're not in business to make surfers happy, we're in business to keep our members happy. Sure, they won't become members if we piss them off first, but the whole point of a properly done exit is to do it in such a way that you don't annoy them.

Look, say someone come to your wife's website and you have a properly installed exit script. The way it should work, the surfer will be able to navigate to all the pages in the tour and even click to go to the join page without ever triggering your popup. It's not until they leave your site completely that the exit pops, and at that point, why would you care about the ones that are annoyed, they didn't buy from you anyway and probably won't be back. The chances that a simple exit pop with no chain attached would piss them off enough that they never will come back if they might have planned on it is slim, but if they never were coming back, it does give you another shot at making something from them.

Re: Morons.
 

anyway, i am off to work some more, it nice chatting with ya....don't get so worked up man, life is too short :)

Re: Morons.
 

Sure it is. That's why it checks off on every item that would call it a free host.

1. Offers free web space. CHECK
2. Pays for this service by flying their banners CHECK

At the end of the day, no matter how much smoke is blown up your ass, being called whatever to float your boat, it is still a FREE HOST.

Re: Morons.
 

I'd call that a freehost.

Re: Morons.
 

more moron type threads please


:)

Re: Morons.
 

god damn it, you keep sucking me back in...LOL

where on their site do they offer free web space? you cannot upload anything anywhere except for 12 pictures in your profile, everything else must be hosted elsewhere...wouldn't free hosting require that you have to be able to actually host stuff on there?

Re: Morons.
 

Jace,

Please think outside of the box. You just made the point yourself.

You can upload 12 pics in your profile.

What are ppl on xpeeps selling? Their product, or themselves.

I cannot make this any more easier to see.

Sabby was happy as shit selling a video on xpeeps.

Please think as a sales man, and for yourself.

Re: Morons.
 

so, by your alls rationale, I am the one not thinking outside the box? LOL

IMO, the box has expanded, and you all are still stuck inside...

myspace = free host
hotornot = free host

ok, i will give you this, myspace and xpeeps are free, and they do allow you to host shit on there...but they are not by the traditional sense of the term a free host

i am done with this, i have asked 6 different people how they lean on this matter, and none of them agree with you, and this includes industry veterans so I know I am not an idiot here...i just wish they would jump in and agree with me on here

like I said previously, we will just have to agree to disagree

I guess I will go surf that other free host now, www.consumptionjunction.com, because you know, after all, they do allow free submissions...LOL

Re: Morons.
 

Interesting none of them won't jump on here, and I'm posting with a noob post count and as an anon.

What does that tell you?

This is the main difference why everyone thnks of you as noob, and why in 7 years, which is how long I've been in this business as well, we have a wide gulf in experience and earning potential.

I'm off to Serge's retirement home, disregard my offer to help you make money in this business I made on Xnations.

You obviously don't need it.

Interesting, I wonder which Veteran's you talked too.

TGP Vets, Paysite owners, program managers, etc...

All scared to post though, must be real players.

Re: Morons.
 

nobody is scared, they are just sick of dealing with a bunch of whiney fuckers and don't want to get sucked in like I have

all you all do is talk down and whine constantly, it just gets old and people don't want to deal with it

Re: Morons.
 

Shut up. Get your tits out.

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i hope there are more nick posts....i mostly come here to read what he has to say

Re: Morons.
 

Soon as you whip your...cash...out ;)

See, I am learning ;)

Re: Morons.
 

Community or company store?

Re: Morons.
 

Sure they do.

Just think of this for a second.

You run xpeeps sites for bishop.

Ken hit me up asking for advice on how to setup a recurring model for his opt in mails that AEBN has had over the years.

I set him up with advice on prorrams to use, how to break filters with opt in information, server setups, and bonded IP's.

Who do you think made more money?

You in 10 years, or my advice I gave to Ken for AEBN to use in a month?

Yeah, you spent those 7 years in this business well.

I am willing to bet that Ken brought that up to AEBN as his own idea, as well.

CuddlyKen is like that.

Re: Morons.
 

You probably want to thank Robin :okthumb:

Re: Morons.
 

I wish I could figure out why it's so important to win an argument about whether xpeeps is a free host or not. That's the kind of thing kids do.

Jace, why bother arguing with him? You know what you know and who cares if Nick wants to call xpeeps a free host and is such a child he'll argue for days about it?

Re: Morons.
 

Sure is a big one if it is.

Re: Morons.
 

My mistake was arguing with an idiot.

I got dragged down to his level and got beat by his experience.

Re: Morons.
 

Good luck Jim. I used to think you were the weakest part of the equation, I was wrong.

Re: Morons.
 

please don't talk about dogs!!!!!
My baby was killed 6 weeks ago :(

oh shit, sorry, would that be classed as old timers information that's irrelevant to the future of the porn industry?!?!?

he probably made more money on the web than half the posters on this board these days LOL

Re: Morons.
 

Sorry to hear that, cj!! :(

Re: Morons.
 

that sucks so bad, I am so sorry....I can't imagine losing one of my babies

Re: Morons.
 

Free host with traffic.


Sabby:flash:

Re: Morons.
 

Sorry to hear about your dog :(

Re: Morons.
 

spoken like a true Prodigy....I like your sig, BTW.