Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

You are already my bitch, punk.

Look inside a TCP packet. That is easy to do.

I have already made my point, you are just chattering on and on and on.

Point was and is: it is common knowledge that MAC address tracking is possible. That is how you were caught posting under another account.

How do you track it?

By looking inside a TCP packet. It's RIGHT in there! HAHAHAHAHA

All the other BS you tried to pile on to the discussion is just that. BS. Why don't companies use it? ETC ETC: IRRELEVANT to the point I made, and have proved.

That wasn't a hint, that was a direct answer. If you are not capable of understanding it, that's your problem Jack.

NOT giving you a freebie under the pretense of meeting your "challenges" or playing your little games. I could care less about that. I done know what I am talking about, whereas you are just putting on a clown show in an attempt to get out of having been caught posting under another account, which it was my intention to refute, and which I did. Plain and simple.

Anyone reading this who knows TCP/IP knows that the information I posted is accurate. And that's that. Go on, keep chattering.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

GOTCHA!!!!

So tell me, sir Genius,

Exact what MAC address does the TCP packet contain? The Mac address of the sender? The Mac address of the last hop? All of them? None of them?

You have just proven to EVERYONE that you don't know a fucking thing of what you're talking about.

You have failed to prove it to me, and failed to prove it to everyone else.

And I guess you don't want ASACP or FSC to have my $100.00 in your name.

I Win!

Look at my smiling face in my picture on the left. See that? That's me, Happy as shit. Don't you just wanna give me a kiss now?

Thank you and goodnight!

WOOHOO!!

Mark Prince

http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

I think that deservers more emphasis so you all can understand why Mark is so furious.

Here let me add a few

www.livehotcamz.com
www.cambabez.com
www.easycyberdate.com
www.livemuscleshow.com
www.livesexydolls.com
www.livebabes.com

So were all these webmasters and clients of 2much.net as bad as me. Do you just have the best luck picking people who will fail on 2Much.net's platform.

I came to you to do a coaching site - completely non-adult. I went in this direction for reasons and my success and failure should not quite be measured in the first 9 months...

Let's look at your site 9 months later....
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://livecamnetwork.com

Boy 10 years at this and you only got 1 girl online.. Maybe you should be out recruiting. at least I had some talent wanting to work on a new site in a saturated market muscles or not.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

What you say is right about TCP packets within a LAN but NOT on the WAN side, where the packets carry only the MAC address of the closest router.

Talk about projection, yet in between all the insults and name calling you have only said you answered... without answering... amazing.

You have really changed your posting style with all this "bitch" and "yo" shit lol since the days when you were out protecting women's honour from perceived verbal attacks.

I guess the gentleman thing was too faggy....

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Make it $1,000 USD to the Free Software Foundation and I will post a breakdown of how you can obtain a MAC address from a TCP packet.

As to how to obtain YOURS RIGHT NOW, that would entail breaking the law. I don't do that shit.

And then again, once again, the context being discussed was a WEB APPLICATION AND A CLIENT.

You know, I think you really are convinced that it cannot be done. Amazing. I figured you were just being your jackass self, but it seems as though you are convinced that it cannot be done.

If $1,000 is too much, ok, make it more than $100. To the Free Software Foundation. Straight up do that and I will post a breakdown of how to accomplish this.

As to having bigger balls than me, you wish, however, I can see that you are claiming that you will put your money where your mouth is at. Fair enough. More than 100 and to the Free Software Foundation.

I await your reply.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

WAN, BAN, LAN Thank you MAM or you all just still trying to cover your ass for coming on here as "Soundslikebullshit?"

Get a clue we know it's you however do you want some milk with those cookies?

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

No, the packet contains the MAC address of both the sending and receiving computer.

Oh, I am sorry I didn't break it down enough for you. But I answered.

I have changed my posting style??????

Please elaborate.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

No its not breaking the law, because I am giving you permission right here to do it. Stop lying. And are you implying (or outright saying) that GONZO broke the law when he obtained someone's Mac Address? (You're slipping, dude!)


What? Now you're changing your tune!! Read my posts, asswipe! I said the only way you could obtain a Mac address from another machine would be to have a program installed on that machine which obtains and then posts the MAC address back to you. Are you now implying that Gonzo has SPYWARE on Oprano?

(No, he doesn't. The only way to do what you said is via an executable (or .msi file) that runs as an application on a windows machine. Jesus fucking H christ dude..)



Who the fuck is the Free Software Foundation? And how the fuck would it help ANYONE here in adult?

No way jackass. If I'm going to learn a $100.00 lesson from you I an going to pay to either ASACP or FSC since I beleive that they both help the Adult community. If you have another foundation that helps Adult then I will consider it.

You have 10 Minutes left, brainiac.

7....6....5...4...3..2..1..... MAKE A FOOL OF YOURSELF! (or me!) GO!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Shit!

Shellee.... baby... please.... I am SO SORRY.....

I completely forgot that you are an EX MICROSOFT NETWORK ENGINEER GURU AND PERSONAL ADVISOR TO MR. GATES HIMSELF.

Can you perhaps tell us if its possible to obtain a MAC address of a PC without a client or web application running on that target machine?

And if you can't, maybe you can tippy-toe over to Steve Job's house next door and ask him?

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

NOTE: I posted this on the previous page, but I don't think anyone saw it

I'm sorry, but I just went through a search and I can't find anywhere that says what you stated above. Everything I have read so far makes mention that a MAC Address is undiscoverable outside of a Network unless something is being used to actually broadcast it. I don't see anywhere that states a MAC Address is included in a TCP/IP/UDP packet. There is talk of MAC Layering in older network systems, like FDDI and Token Ring, but that is now all obsolete.

I'd love to know more about all this.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Happy St Patricks day to yall.

Im getting in touch with my "roots".

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

As I recall Shellee, you encouraged a little Troll of yours to log in under a fake name just to lend support to you as you lost another argument and stir shit up for you on a board a few months ago, under the name of "XXXPornGuy"? This is starting to seem like your work all over again. VERY Internesting....

m

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

I would have to break in, and you posting on a thread is not enough permission. Also, I don't break into systems.

Changing my tune? PLEASE. The original context was a web app and client. You turned that into "get mine right now" (like a 14 year old). I stated that you can get it from a TCP packet. There are many ways to look inside a TCP packet. No one was talking about spyware, you FUCKING IDIOT.
There are many ways to look inside a TCP packet. What is known as "spyware" (I know you don't even know the actual definition of it) CAN be ONE of the methods used to obtain this information.

The person who started that is directly responsible for the creation of the operating system that most of the world's websites RUN on YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

Free Software Foundation.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Hi Danny,

I saw it... and you're right. MAC addresses are undiscoverable outside of a LAN unless something is being used to broadcast it.

Mark

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

I prefer to eat cookies.

If you had been that smart you would have used a different network card not just a different IP when you logged in as "Soundslikebullshit."

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Here ye, here ye (oops sorry, only Shellee talks like that).

It is now 6:00, and Moeman has failed me. He has failed himself and everyone else here too.

I'm sorry, Moeman. It looks like you don't get that networking job after all. I hear McDonalds is hiring someone to clean the shitters at night, though.

What I may do is give the $100.00 to ASACP anyway, but under my own name, or Danny's, or hell, maybe even under Oprano's name.

Then again, there's a pub down the street with a fucking delicious pitcher of beer just waiting for me...

Ah well, we'll see.

Shellee: Cookies? Hmm.. better lay off them a little, if ya know what I mean.


Goodnight everyone! (And thanks for visiting Oprano.com)

I'm television'ss Mark "Nobody's bitch" Prince.
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Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Find MAC Address and Get MAC Address Tool

http://www.youngzsoft.net/cc-get-mac-address/

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

MooMan:
My mistake! The Free Software Foundation is interesting. However they don't bennifit me in the least. We pay for the licenses of the software that runs our servers already.

Anyway, you blew it. Goodbye, goodluck, happy searching for Mac addresses in your TCP layers.

Your Sniping Partner,

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

That's the case only within a local netowrk or a P2P connection.

I did what you said and ran a search. Didn't take long.

TCP/IP packets only need or use your MAC address within a LAN, or on a P2P connection. They keep a full ARP Table on local networks, but those sent out over WAN connections use only the MAC address of the last and next router; they don't need the MAC on your network card and they don't carry the MAC address of your router beyond the next router to destination.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Wow things are improving 3 girls online and no one in paid chat.... And your going to have a beer.... try recruiting.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Here ya go, Shellee:
http://www.youngzsoft.net/cc-get-mac-address/faqs.htm. Scroll down to the bottom and it says:

"Why cannot I get MAC address of remote computer?
If the computer is out of LAN and the computer is not windows platform and without install NetBIOS protocol in network property, you cannot get mac address of this computer remotely."

When digging to find out if it was possible to grab MAC addresses or not, I found this program and this site, and then saw this line.

If anyone wants to, try running that program and entering our IP Address:205.150.5.126. You will see that it does not work because our computers are outside of "Your" lan.

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net

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Hey Mark I just got in here its nice to see you're remaining true to form with those whom disagree with you ...

Very nice work ...

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

That's to find the MAC addresses of devices on your local network, and seems to be directed at network administrators who need to monitor larger networks and subnets.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Hi Shellee,

Things are quite well, thanks. I'm sure you know what this is:
http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pi.../moneyshot.jpg

Actually, we'll go have dinner with Michel (but we promise not to talk about you). The studios are running just fine. Now just run along and go play, or even better, hang out at LiveCamNetwork.com and see how this business works.

MUAH!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

That's just for a LAN. I can get the same information by logging into my router. I still don't believe you can get a MAC address remotely. I may be wrong as I am nowhere near a Network guy, but from what I have read, that is just something used locally to a network.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Hey Couchsitter - does that look familiar isn't it one of those 2much.net accounting statements with the funny math - you know where 2+2 = 10 and we have to wait a week for Sue to fix it?

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Well Mark 3 girls online and FINALLY one in paid chat - it's time for that beer. It took what 8 hours or so to get one of your girls in paid chat today.

Anyone else want to take advice from the gurus of cam sites Mark Prince and Greg Jones on running and marketing a chat site?

Yes I failed but I wasn't at this for 10 years and coming across like an expert while my site was looking so dismal.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Hahaha

If you had paid the FSF, I would have given you a breakdown, but since you are such a cheap little ignorant fuck, I will give you a bigger freebie:

A PACKET SNIFFER CAN BE USED TO OBTAIN THE MAC ADDRESS FROM A TCP PACKET. IT WILL BE ON THE SECOND LINE TITLED "LINK" (WHICH GIVES YOU INFORMATION ABOUT LAYER 2) WHICH INCLUDES THE MAC ADDRESSES OF THE SENDING AND RECEIVING COMPUTER.

I know that you don't know what a packet sniffer is, and you are obviously confused about what can be done with it, or what is or isn't done with it, and you see it from a 14 year old point of view, and "challenge" others to do "cool" and "wow" stuff with it. Matter of fact is, by using a packet sniffer in certain ways, along with other software, you can obtain this information. The rest of your attempts at deflecting the focus from you being caught by Gonzo posting under another account are just that, pathetic attempts to wiggle out of being caught. Examples of that are "challenging" me to "get" your MAC address.

Anyone can see right through you.

How pathetic, attempting to turn this into some kind of "pride" and "authority" charade, where I am supposed to "impress" you and your sidekick, when in fact, quantifiable information is being discussed.

Now, I just told you how to get that info from a TCP packet, do I need to break it down for you even MORE?

If so, I won't do it . . . your games are ridiculous.

Now, try to refute that the MAC address can be obtained from a TCP packet using a packet sniffer.

Do it. Make more of an ass out of yourself.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

I like pie.

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Hammer your back..... I got two black eyes a broken rib and a bruised kidney so don't make me re-live it with telling me how big of an idiot I am... Why didn't you just invite me over to the newbies section?

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Nice try. You have been proven to be an idiot.

The slew of hypothetical scenarios you brought into the discussion to muddle up the initial point are meaningless.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Good luck trying to drink your problems away.

I have news for you: you've seen nothing yet.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Much as I dislike your innuendo, you at least have been ATTEMPTING to discuss facts.

I will say this: you are assuming that the only way to obtain the MAC addy of the computer that the user is on is by looking at JUST the TCP packets that reach the server (the "last leg" of the trip, so to speak).
That is not so.
The simple fact that the information is contained within TCP packets is enough for anyone with a bit of knowledge and half a brain to realize that the originating computer's MAC address can be eventually obtained after it has connected to a server on the WAN.

Which has been the point all along.

I am not going to break it down for you all any further. I am amazed that it appears as though you two TRULY CANNOT obtain this information on your own.

And guess what? I AM NOT EVEN INTO NETWORKING THAT MUCH AT ALL AND I KNOW THIS!!!!!!

Goes to show.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

How'd you do that?

Look, sometimes we all tend to post things we don't mean and I'm sure you're not an idiot. I apologize for calling you one. I still don't think it's a good idea to post home addresses on an adult forum, especially for a woman. One of the major complaints many solo models had concerning the changes to 2257 was the fact that they'd have to post their home address as the custodian of records and they were worried about stalkers.

I also had a problem with your cavalier attitude over the child references in your code when it was pointed out to you. I realize the way it was brought to your attention and the fact that it was done so by someone with a fake nick wasn't the optimal way of doing so but it was still something that IMO should have been addressed immediately.

The newbies section doesn't seem to be very popular here on Oprano and even though I'm the moderator I must admit I rarely remember to check it out.

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I did not mean to sound or look cavalier but I did. I was actually freaking out and wanted to make sure some important people viewed it and took notice that the incinuations of the links to cp were false. This took some time I had to cover all my bases with the accusations so outrageous.

Once that was accomplished I made the documentation and changes as not to seem like I was hiding something.

I would not be lucky to have a stalker but I'm definitely not fun to stalk it would wear someone out following me around. My name, address, phone and a ton of other information is out there all over the place and I have been around dangerous people volunteering - I checked in a level 3 sex offender to a shelter who shot and killed his girlfriend in front of a pact house last year so it isn't like I have not seen some bad stuff or have been pretty scared at times - gone into some rough neighborhoods in the middle of the night to respond with Disaster Relief.

Don't give up on me yet - I really have some good ideas and they all will take some time to fully develop. I think most of the mentors I have in this business have a Mark Prince type story and spent a lot of money on attorney's regretfully.

Keep looking out for my work and give me some good criticism I respect and appreciate the opinions of those that really want to help.

Thank you for your concern and it's a little late to take it back... whats done is done.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

I'm Dick Fitzwell from Cumming Georgia :waving:

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Hi Shellee,

I'm sorry if you never learned even basic math in school. I guess you just never needed it living off of your hubby's success. Must suck to forever be in someone's shadow, no? Oh well. I'm sure if you put your mind to it you can be an expert tupperware party planner.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

[quote=Shelleehale;808763]Well Mark 3 girls online and FINALLY one in paid chat -[quote]

Here you go, Shellee:

This screenshot is just like yesterdays, and just like the day before. Damn these girls are popular. If only you had girls like this on your site instead of that fat fuck prostitute of yours.

http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pi...ork-status.jpg


Oh but wait!!! I totally forgot!! You were the fucking EXPERT who told me that Guys don't care about looks - and we don't care about personality. All that we care about is a fucking gaping CUNT on screen and MEN will pay $5.00 a minute to see one!!

Genius, Shelee Hale, pure Genius.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Even if that was true it would be better than borrowing money from your girlfriend Tracy to keep your Company out of bankruptcy.

Re: Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?
 

Wow, you sure owned me. You're right about everything.

ATTENTION, EVERYONE: IF YOU NEED AN EXPERT NETWORKING / SECURITY GURU, PLEASE CONTACT MOETHEMAN!! HE REALLY KNOWS HIS STUFF!