Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Dude, that is your specialty. You either fight over something useless, or you spam. I know, you are ignoring me, but others aren't. You got your old lady workin' yet? tick, tick, tick.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Yeah. Let's just call it white space.
Some place to put more stuff. That's what I do.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Because I had IE open at the time I was reading the thread. lololol. This thread has taken so many turns.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Once again Shellee, you haven't bothered to read anything. You just post whatever the hell you want to post as long as it fits "your" version of the truth. Pretty lame.

Anyway if anyone wants to talk to KEDRA and get the REAL truth, she is online right now at http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com. She will video chat with you and answer all of your questions and silly non-provable accusations.

Goodnight Shellee. Try not to dream about me. And if you can't sleep, be sure to spend all night comparing pictures of KEDRA to BELLA, because, hey, YOU need to know the "truth", right? Lame (and owned yet again.) And congrats on finally removing the KIDS link from your website. Dumbass.

Me,
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.livecamnetwork.com

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I certainly couldn't keep up with it.
Maybe it's cause I'm new here.

I do understand using IE. That's what most people use. 84% at my site.
and I couldn't care less how it looks.
I used to care, but ... times have changed.

Only thing that bothers me now is no money.
and ... mostly I don't care a whole lot about that either.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

well how did I mis-interpret this?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Yep the world according to Shellee.... But, this is always your response when I show you a card from my deck. This little text file which you surely ran off to come up with a lame excuse for - is like a 2 out of 10 on the scale. I got so much more.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Knock yourself out then.

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Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Shellee you are a GAS!

You've managed to show no cards in your deck, even when you claimed verification of that other camgirl as being LCN Kedra - but you talk a good-sounding spiel even when you don't know anything about the subject. This talent must really aid in your "life coach" field (along with all the expertise you offer) in much the same way as such intuition might help a so-called "psychic" let me know there was someone important to my life that i lost recently.

It's getting more and more obvious to me you have no real hold on reality and I still Iook forward to your each and every post as the next source of amusement and levity in my daily grind. Your lack of attention and obvious blind-luck "expertise" might help you out in the "real" world but really posts like this one: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/searc...searchid=33338 as well as your comments here just make you look like a newb trying too hard.

Just wait. Read. Take advice before you give it for gawd's sake... I always admired your energy and ambition, but your impatience and urge to act NOW always made treadmills out of your plans... with us or other potential business associates.

I've been really polite, and diplomatic, in any dealings I have and had with you (and I have to point out here I tried to be your rep whenever you let me be here at 2much) and I always want to leave everyone their opinion and attitudes about things... but you never had the social etiquette or the aptitude to understand when you were out of your depth, and just kept ploughing ahead with your rhinoceros energy.

There's something to be commended in that, but your denial and inattention, and need-for-speed compulsions, really work against you having an open dialogue and understandiing with anyone but those who can understand this about you, ignore it and finally profit from at least taking the money you offer for services when they're capable of rendering them.

I found this out too late; and you really make me wish I could set up pyschological evaluations for people before they became customers of 2much...

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Just to clear you out, soundslikebullshit is someone you or Gonzo probably know better than we do... but this is just conjecture.

Your implication of small, asylum-sized cellls bears no weight or meaning...

I only confirmed an inadvertent technical glitch... it's happened to the best of us (recently a veteran in the biz "spammed" us all with an important announcement with his whole bcc list in the cc list... accidents happen).

I'm sorry you felt that was a "lame attempt to blame CCBill" and will attempt to get our rep at the company to post his explanation of the situation; at any rate if it happened more than once or twice before I became aware of the situation, I apologize... as none of the affiliate programs who accidentally "spammed' our members did to me.

To answer your question, though I don't remember because the specific number of ex- and current affiliates wasn't important at the time, I'd say it was between six and seven hundred.

How many affiliates of your site did we inadvertently hit, btw?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

OK your 'mis-intepration' lies in the fact that from your words and tone apparently you believe this is a deliberate attempt to subvert your own affiliate program, which I assure you and anyone who's interested in our (software) program is not the case.

How could we maintain respect and a business at all if we tried to take out our own clients?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

You had an attachment that you mysteriously or through inexperience just left as a file in this message that i thought I'd help you with by opening up here:


Hello!
This is not spam. Someone from LiveCamNetwork.com has placed some funds in your e-wallet as a gift to you!


From: <!--gift sender-->
to: <!--gift recepient-->
Amount: $<!--gift amount-->

<!--gift sender--> has included the following message to you:
-------
<!--gift message-->
-------

These funds are in your account right now. You may use these funds to video-chat with any performer on LiveCamNetwork.com you like. To do so, simply go to http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com and log-in as usual, and you will see your new E-Wallet Balance.

Thank you for choosing LiveCamNetwork.com!

The 2Much Crew
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com
Toll Free Technical Support: 1-866-662-6824

---

This is what recipients of the experimental "gift-giving" form at LiveCamNetwork.com received when another member of the LCN community sent them e-wallet cash to spend on the camgirl of their choice.

Now if one of "your" members received this it was because he was signed up at LiveCamNetwork.com before he ever signed up at your site; we all know that surfers and members can be forgetful at times...

But the <codes> in there are meant t be replaced by what they obviously indicate... the system has worked well with our members and *only* our members for a while now...

Of course since lack of communication is forever the curse of good relations, I find this out months and months after the event... I find it hard to make a comment.

Regardless of any other observations you might have about this email your member received, supposedly (first I hear of it btw), can you answer one simple focussed and easy question:

How come you never told or emailed us about this?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

This shit is sooooooooo boring. At least good piss is interesting. When Serge Oprano, Mike AI, Trev, and the famous nick@ilnyx were here it was heated and interesting. This is as much fun as a grade ten math exam. At least do some ass kicking instead of hurling freeking code. Wow, I have just been hammered by From: <!--gift sender-->
to: <!--gift recepient-->
Amount: $<!--gift amount-->

<!--gift sender--> has included the following message to you:
-------
<!--gift message-->
-------

and pictures of a fat girl. What the fuck is this all about?
No offense to the interested participants, but holy cow, this is boring.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

LOL yeah I know... it's just not my way to piss or accuse where there isn't even just cause or need... as I said in my first post in this thread, I'm not very dramatic,just clearing up a few details, which got a little thicker and cloudier the longer this thread became...

Despite the appearance of a few fine boobs and a fat girl (that's not perjorative to me; in this business it's an observation), this has been pretty dry... all I can tell you is that as usual some posters on this board have jumped in on a thread posted to by Mark from 2much and completely obfuscated the initial point (and Mark was even backing the thread's subject's position), helping (with our assistance it's admitted) to turn it all into another pissing match..

Nonetheless, it seems to have worked to someone's advantage, since you (and others :P ) have read long enough to realize this is just a long boring urine swimfest...

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

'sokay, been here in the industry longer than most but am pretty low-key.

I'll end this with spam and say if anyone wants their site reviewed, PM me and I'll review your site -- review site has been up 4 years next month.

(Hey, everyone else is spamming a program, why not me?)

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Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Wha wha wha ??????

If i remember correctly, this thread was started by me to let someone on the board know that there was a problem with their site.

Just who is obfuscating what here ???


:headwall::headwall::headwall:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

MediaGuy looks surprisingly sober in that picture. Is that an NA beer?

Personally, as someone that has no vested interest in this argument and speaking completely objectively, I can honestly say that I've just added Shelleehale to my list of people to never do business with. She's done everything but threaten to kill someone in this thread and so far has refused to remove child porn references from her site even though it was pointed out quite some time ago and it was also pointed out how bad a thing it is, even if it wasn't intentional and she has also accused someone of being someone they weren't and has refused to apologize even after she was proven wrong.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I hate you all.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Well, the kid ref is out of her front page now, so hopefully that issue is dead.

Personally, I had reached that conclusion before any of the shit happened. Her replys to my initial post I found quite insuting:

The proper response when someone helps you out, whether you requsted help or not is very simple "Thank You".

Assuming that a programmer/webmaster does not have the technical expertise to manage an upgrade if they wanted to is beyond insulting actually. And to assume that everyone must want to upgrade is, sheez, I don't even know the word. belligerent comes to mind though.

The thank you from her did come until 8 posts into the tread and then she was (imho) more insulting to me with her MS shit, whether trying to be cute or not. It did not impress me in the least.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Dude you are a fucking idiot. I knew that the first time I saw you stumbling around drunk then passing out and pissing your pants.

I said early on in the thread that it was your lay off buddy Mark Prince. His excuse was poor and laughable.

However if you think your going to come on this board and convince people that I am unethical then you have proven that your a fool.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I said that Mark "posted to" your thread.

And actually Mark didn't throw the thread off track by his presence, it was thrown off by the posts calling user soundslikebullshit a fake nick created by him.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

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Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

....................Thread tension breaker......................




Anyone want to buy advertising? Mark? Shelleehale? Six great sites to choose from including Oprano!!! ;)



-------------End thread tension breaker...................

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I know what you said.

If your software reports his MAC and IP and such as being the same as soundslikebullshit, then it's in error.

Your suspicion that Mark was soundslikebullshit was strong enough that you accused him of it, so it was either well-founded or a strong hunch.

But Mark Prince was in Florida when username soundlikebullshit was created and first posted; he only got back recently. His computer was powered down for a little under ten days at that point.

The posts made in that account name in this thread couldn't have been made by Mark because he wasn't at his computer at the time, since we were fixing some sound issue in a studio at that time (well, he was).

I didn't check in detail the remainder of the 9 posts made by soundslikebullshit at this point, but I'm sure your security logs could do so; I can't vouch for Mark on those occasions.

Besides, Mark's grasp of English is fundamental, he couldn't write so convincingly "as" another persona.

Gonzo, I've never had reason to doubt your ethics or intelligence and wouldn't try to convince anyone of my opinion on that even if I had one.

If you're not wrong about soundslikebullshit, then it's your tracking/security program. Have it checked.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Dude - are you like 5 or something?? :huh:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Do you know the scripting behind VBulletin at all? The only error it makes with IP's and stuff is allowing morons with them to post...

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Trev these 2 fuck nuts are always right on every point and every one of us is in error along with Vbulletin... Nat Net... and Bob Metcalfe. Its not an IP address but a mac address and it doesnt matter how many stories or deflections or people they come here with to deflect from that fact. The facts are the facts.

The guy is a liar and a pussy to hide behind a sock puppet to bully a woman.
I dont give a shit about anyone making a beef public on Oprano but when you have to hide behind a assumed name to do so... take that shit to GFY.

Too bad they dont talk to each other as Mark claims to have called the rogue computer operator and told him to remove some workgroup setting.

And you know Catsup Head here is another industry expert. If you dont think so just ask him.

Youll remember him a while back posting drive by spam here asking for sponsors for the fabulous boat cruise that got turned around 15 minutes into the voyage.

Times must have been tight back then too. But I guess you can always post pictures for free advertising on Ynot when your in a tight eh?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Hello Everyone,

I think its finally time to close this thread. I forget who said it earlier, but they're right - it has become boring now.

Sarettah: Kudos for pointing out the errors in Shelle's site and at least trying to help her out.

Shellee Hale: Any Sexually Explicit Website with the word KIDS in it can be flagged as Child Porn, which is why everyone freaked on you and tried to help you out. Besides having your name associated with CP, it can be bad for the industry as a whole. I just checked and it looks like the CP references are now gone. You really need to jump on this kind of thing right away next time. Good luck with your new site. I sincerely hope you do well with it.

Mediaguy: Love your posts, baby. Come over to my desk and give me a big wet kiss.

Gonzo: Thanks for the traffic!
http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pictures/oprano.jpg

We even had 2 serious inquiries.

There's one thing I would like to leave with you all. Clearly everyone is making lots of money in this business, but we can make so much more if everyone takes the time to learn from each other and work together. (Thank god for face-to-face meetings at trade shows!) The mud slinging and TMZ.com -style sensationalism / rumourmill that seems to crowd this message board is "fun" but hardly good use of anyone's time. Let's hope that the next thread is more educational for all.

Finally, a shameless plug!

If anyone is looking for a good video chat solution for their website, why not consider us! http://www.2Much.net. You can offer exceptional video quality to your end users, charge them anything you want per second (microbilling!), payout your own performers anything you want per minute, and even network with other chat studios. Check out http://www.2Much.net or better still, call us at 514-285-9325.


CHEERS!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

That's all the info this thread needs to have... Summed up in two lines...

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Like I said.. anyone want to do soem advertising deals?? :okthumb:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Whore











:yowsa:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Yup. And damn proud of it too. :>)) I ain't cheap either. LOL I'm not a $100 wham, bam thank you maam streetwalker but rather like the high class escorts Charlie Sheen and Elliot Spitzer used to pay for. ;)

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Harry says you ain't that good ;p

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Burn!!!


BTW, Give Harry mine and my Mrs best, tell him to take it easy ;-)

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Can someone post the cliff notes version of this?

On a quick skim, looks like ketchup head's friend got caught red handed and is making like dope fiend nailed on the COPS tv show. It's on video, 2 cops witness it, and he's still lying and saying he didn't do it.

That's essentially the case here. I know how the tool that detects sock puppets here works. It doesn't lie, it's deadly accurate. I looked at the logs for this instance, these guys weren't even smart enough to do anything more than use a different IP. Looks like they grabbed a nearby open wirelsss connection for a second IP and figured that would do the job.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Yeah I emailed him a bit ago to see if he is up for a call. Don't want to call him if he is sleeping.