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Torone 02-11-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 11 2004, 09:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 11 2004, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Feb 11 2004, 10:36 AM
Why would Canadiens care since they don't like Bush? :awinky:
Why do so many people spell it "canadien"? Is that an alternate spelling?[/b][/quote]
"Canadien" is (I believe) feminine gender...

Peaches 02-11-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 11 2004, 11:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 11 2004, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Feb 11 2004, 10:36 AM
Why would Canadiens care since they don't like Bush? :awinky:
Why do so many people spell it "canadien"? Is that an alternate spelling?[/b][/quote]
That's how I've seen it spelled the majority of the time and being the lemming that I am..... B)

I think it might be Franch! :awinky:

Almighty Colin 02-11-2004 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches@Feb 11 2004, 10:47 AM
That's how I've seen it spelled the majority of the time and being the lemming that I am..... B)

Conformity works well enough when everyone is right but when the majority are wrong it really backfires.

Vick 02-11-2004 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by OldJeff@Feb 11 2004, 10:20 AM
Ok - lets stop giving Canada shit and turn our attention to France, those wacky bastards just allowed a woman to marry a dead boyfriend.

Shit since you can marry the dead there I want to go Marry Marie Antionette

There's no bread
Let them eat .....

Awe nevermind


Edit - p.s. Rob Zombie - Living Dead Girl



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PornoDoggy 02-11-2004 10:50 AM

Yeah, that's kinda petty, EC ... you should have taken important steps in response to that, like having Parliment change the name of some food items or something.

Joe Sixpack 02-11-2004 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 11 2004, 07:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 11 2004, 07:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Feb 11 2004, 10:47 AM
That's how I've seen it spelled the majority of the time and being the lemming that I am..... B)

Conformity works well enough when everyone is right but when the majority are wrong it really backfires.[/b][/quote]
Conformity is the root of all evil.

Almighty Colin 02-11-2004 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Feb 11 2004, 03:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Feb 11 2004, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 11 2004, 07:52 AM
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@Feb 11 2004, 10:47 AM
That's how I've seen it spelled the majority of the time and being the lemming that I am..... B)


Conformity works well enough when everyone is right but when the majority are wrong it really backfires.

Conformity is the root of all evil.[/b][/quote]
Spoken buy a guy that wears blue jeans and t-shirts. When're you gonna put on a dress, Joe?

Joe Sixpack 02-11-2004 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 11 2004, 01:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 11 2004, 01:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Joe Sixpack@Feb 11 2004, 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 11 2004, 07:52 AM
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@Feb 11 2004, 10:47 AM
That's how I've seen it spelled the majority of the time and being the lemming that I am..... B)


Conformity works well enough when everyone is right but when the majority are wrong it really backfires.


Conformity is the root of all evil.

Spoken buy a guy that wears blue jeans and t-shirts. When're you gonna put on a dress, Joe?[/b][/quote]
I'll put on a dress when I find one that looks good on me.

J'sdude 02-11-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Torone@Feb 11 2004, 06:58 AM
E.C.,
We all know what a Socialist is...you have many criticisms; but never a workable solution.

As for diplomacy, it was tried for 12 years and 17 UN resolutions.

"Nothing says 'diplomacy' better than a fully-charged phaser bank!"

By that logic, you invaded the wrong countrydude. You should have invaded Israel.

aeon 02-11-2004 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Feb 11 2004, 07:10 AM
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If you can't vote here, then shut the fuck up and quit your whining... go tend your own yard.
Interesting thought. Let's apply it universally, shall we?

You live, I belive, in Virginia. You recently started a thread about the possible danger of the gubermint becoming like China because some obscure Washington State Legislator introduced a bill recommending smaller family sizes. Now, I only have a public school education in geography, but I believe that you are a tad closer to Canada than you are to Washington State. I also think it's fair to say that the decisions made by the Deserter-in-Chief have far more of an effect, direct or indirect, on our Canadian neighbors than those of a member of the Washington State government would have on me here in Illinois, or you there in Virginia.

So following your own logic, you really should have shut the fuck up about that. It is no more your business than a Canadian opinion of Bush.

what the fuck does geographic location have to do with ability to vote in the United States Of America? If you aint a citizen and don't live here - there is no universal...that's the beauty of liberals - let them run their mouths enough and eventually they'll make a fool of themselves. Conservatives do it from the get go...and don't hide their BS.

Isn't Canada an independant nation...???

So executive, legislative and judicial decision's import is based on how close they are to anyone else...

fuck yer stupid - the 60's are over...put the bong down and take a bath...do you know what a red herring is?

Liberals; like the other sheep, are tolerant of what they agree with...cept they're stupid enough to pay 5 bucks for a latte.

Kerry for Pres -
aeon

PornoDoggy 02-11-2004 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by aeon+Feb 11 2004, 07:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (aeon @ Feb 11 2004, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--PornoDoggy@Feb 11 2004, 07:10 AM
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If you can't vote here, then shut the fuck up and quit your whining... go tend your own yard.
Interesting thought. Let's apply it universally, shall we?

You live, I belive, in Virginia. You recently started a thread about the possible danger of the gubermint becoming like China because some obscure Washington State Legislator introduced a bill recommending smaller family sizes. Now, I only have a public school education in geography, but I believe that you are a tad closer to Canada than you are to Washington State. I also think it's fair to say that the decisions made by the Deserter-in-Chief have far more of an effect, direct or indirect, on our Canadian neighbors than those of a member of the Washington State government would have on me here in Illinois, or you there in Virginia.

So following your own logic, you really should have shut the fuck up about that. It is no more your business than a Canadian opinion of Bush.

what the fuck does geographic location have to do with ability to vote in the United States Of America? If you aint a citizen and don't live here - there is no universal...that's the beauty of liberals - let them run their mouths enough and eventually they'll make a fool of themselves. Conservatives do it from the get go...and don't hide their BS.

Isn't Canada an independant nation...???

So executive, legislative and judicial decision's import is based on how close they are to anyone else...

fuck yer stupid - the 60's are over...put the bong down and take a bath...do you know what a red herring is?

Liberals; like the other sheep, are tolerant of what they agree with...cept they're stupid enough to pay 5 bucks for a latte.

Kerry for Pres -
aeon[/b][/quote]
Just out of curiousity, do the patients on your ward only get computer access after a certain hour, or do you not recover enough from your shock treatments to post until evening?

I'll try and run it for you again, and limit my use of mutisyllable (big) words. Carrie is of the opinion that people who aren't able to vote for him shouldn't comment on deserter in chief Bush. By her own logic, she really shouldn't be commenting on activities in Washington State, which is far, far away from Virginia - since she can't vote there.

BTW ... your attacks on liberals aren't nearly as creative as Buffs, and are (if such a thing is possible without the Tippacanoe and Tyler Too jingle) more outdated than Torones. And the only herring involved in your case would probably be the smell of your girlfriend. Lattes are for pussys.

Sit on it and spin,

PornoDoggy

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Feb 11 2004, 04:13 PM

I'll put on a dress when I find one that looks good on me.

You’ve conformed to the most popular view of what appropriate clothing is. You probably think that your clothes “just feel comfortable” and “look good to you”. These are the same things nearly everyone says. That’s how conformity works.

When will you embrace your slavery, Joe?



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J'sdude 02-12-2004 07:52 AM

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Joe Sixpack 02-12-2004 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 12 2004, 04:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 12 2004, 04:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Feb 11 2004, 04:13 PM

I'll put on a dress when I find one that looks good on me.

You’ve conformed to the most popular view of what appropriate clothing is. You probably think that your clothes “just feel comfortable” and “look good to you”. These are the same things nearly everyone says. That’s how conformity works.

When will you embrace your slavery, Joe?[/b][/quote]
If I was a conformist, at least in terms of fashion because that's the issue under discussion, I'd be changing my look constantly to conform with the trend of the moment. I like jeans for the comfort factor. And I can't go around naked so I have to wear something.

If I wore something like all black just to "look different" you'd be accusing me of conforming to some goth look. No matter what I said I wore you'd be saying I was conforming to something!

The bottom line is that I don't like to stand out, I like to blend in.

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 08:30 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 08:22 AM
No matter what I said I wore you'd be saying I was conforming to something!
That's completely right because you are. We all are. We all just choose different groups to conform too.

And right on cue, after I said "You probably think that your clothes just feel comfortable" you replied "I like jeans for the comfort factor." Congratulations, you've joined THEM.

There's a million others just like you, Joe. Who cuss like you, who don't give a fuck like you, who dress like you, walk, talk and act like you.

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 08:35 AM

Joe,

Even the fact that you believe in something called "proper grammar" and believe people should spell correctly is a sign of massive conformity. You care what people think of you and have gone through effort to make sure you fit in.

Joe Sixpack 02-12-2004 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 12 2004, 05:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 12 2004, 05:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 08:22 AM
No matter what I said I wore you'd be saying I was conforming to something!
That's completely right because you are. We all are. We all just choose different groups to conform too.[/b][/quote]
Sure. I'll accept that.

But people differ in their level of conformity. If you are going to argue that we are all confomists then you must accept that it is simply a matter of degree.

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 09:02 AM
But people differ in their level of conformity. If you are going to argue that we are all confomists then you must accept that it is simply a matter of degree.
To me, it seems more a matter of what we conform to than how much we conform. I see what you're saying but it seems like we're talking about the last 1%. Humans are incredibly social and need each other. We live, work, and play in groups. We're more alike than different.

People listen to music created by others, wear clothes designed by others,
get their hair cut by others, and live in houses designed and built by others. There's little choice in that, of course. There's no time to do it all.

But these same facts necessitate few options. We tend to like certain music styles and not others. We tend to like certain clothing styles and not others. We tend to like certain groups of people more than others. The people that share those similarities form groups. They are our friends.

You have the "trendy" people who wear the trendy clothing lines and go to the trendy clubs.

You have the non-materialists who wear the non-materialist clothing (Few labels, non trendy)

We've had the stoners, the preppies, the headbangers, the goths and the yuppies. Even the bikers. Hell of a group that prides themself on individuality. Nearly every one of them wearing leather and riding a Harley.

You have high schools kids who all say they are striving for their "individualism" but all dressing remarkably like the others in their respective groups.

The most amusing part is that some of us identify with "non conformist" groups, people who claim they are "individualists". I don't really think they are. Such groups tend to have a lot in common with each other (goth is a good example). They subscribe to the cult of antidisestablishmentarianism. They reject the norms of society and then conform to each other instead.



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Joe Sixpack 02-12-2004 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Colin@Feb 12 2004, 06:22 AM
The most amusing part is that some of us identify with "non conformist" groups, people who claim they are "individualists". I don't really think they are. Such groups tend to have a lot in common with each other (goth is a good example). They subscribe to the cult of antidisestablishmentarianism. They reject the norms of society and then conform to each other instead.
Not all those who reject the norms of society, or antidisestablishmentarianists as you call them, are as easily recognisable as goths or punks. Again, it's all a matter of degree.

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 09:34 AM
Not all those who reject the norms of society, or antidisestablishmentarianists as you call them, are as easily recognisable as goths or punks. Again, it's all a matter of degree.
Why? Just because not all groups wear clothing similar to each other?

You sound like a million other guys. You're even making the same arguments as them. An average Joe.

Joe Sixpack 02-12-2004 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 12 2004, 06:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 12 2004, 06:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 09:34 AM
Not all those who reject the norms of society, or antidisestablishmentarianists as you call them, are as easily recognisable as goths or punks. Again, it's all a matter of degree.
Why? Just because not all groups wear clothing similar to each other?

You sound like a million other guys. You're even making the same arguments as them. An average Joe.[/b][/quote]
Okay, so what group do I belong to? If I'm as much of a conformist as you obviously believe I am you must be able to pigeonhole me easily.

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 09:46 AM
Okay, so what group do I belong to? If I'm as much of a conformist as you obviously believe I am you must be able to pigeonhole me easily.
Australian pot smoking, atheist, america-bashing, blue jean evolutionist pornographers. HUGE group ;-)

Joe Sixpack 02-12-2004 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Feb 12 2004, 06:49 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Feb 12 2004, 06:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack@Feb 12 2004, 09:46 AM
Okay, so what group do I belong to? If I'm as much of a conformist as you obviously believe I am you must be able to pigeonhole me easily.
Australian pot smoking, atheist, america-bashing, blue jean evolutionist pornographers. HUGE group ;-)[/b][/quote]
You forgot well travelled and alcoholic.

:hic:

Almighty Colin 02-12-2004 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Feb 12 2004, 09:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Feb 12 2004, 09:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 12 2004, 06:49 AM
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@Feb 12 2004, 09:46 AM
Okay, so what group do I belong to? If I'm as much of a conformist as you obviously believe I am you must be able to pigeonhole me easily.


Australian pot smoking, atheist, america-bashing, blue jean evolutionist pornographers. HUGE group ;-)

You forgot well travelled and alcoholic.

:hic:[/b][/quote]
All joking aside, liberal intellectual.

Torone 02-12-2004 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by J'sdude+Feb 11 2004, 03:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J'sdude @ Feb 11 2004, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Torone@Feb 11 2004, 06:58 AM
E.C.,
We all know what a Socialist is...you have many criticisms; but never a workable solution.

As for diplomacy, it was tried for 12 years and 17 UN resolutions.

"Nothing says 'diplomacy' better than a fully-charged phaser bank!"

By that logic, you invaded the wrong countrydude. You should have invaded Israel.[/b][/quote]
You sound a bit Anti-Semitic. I don't think Israel was part of the discussion.

PornoDoggy 02-12-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by Torone+Feb 12 2004, 02:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Torone @ Feb 12 2004, 02:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -J'sdude@Feb 11 2004, 03:54 PM
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@Feb 11 2004, 06:58 AM
E.C.,
We all know what a Socialist is...you have many criticisms; but never a workable solution.

As for diplomacy, it was tried for 12 years and 17 UN resolutions.

"Nothing says 'diplomacy' better than a fully-charged phaser bank!"


By that logic, you invaded the wrong countrydude. You should have invaded Israel.

You sound a bit Anti-Semitic. I don't think Israel was part of the discussion.[/b][/quote]
Uhhh ... criticizing Israel is not by it's nature being anti-semetic.

I had to read it three times before I even had a clue what the hell he was talking about - which is, uh, a few more times than I usually give his stuff - and I think I know where he was going. It's not antisemitism, even if it is pretty garbled thinking.

J'sdude 02-12-2004 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 12 2004, 02:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 12 2004, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Torone@Feb 12 2004, 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by -J'sdude@Feb 11 2004, 03:54 PM
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@Feb 11 2004, 06:58 AM
E.C.,
We all know what a Socialist is...you have many criticisms; but never a workable solution.

As for diplomacy, it was tried for 12 years and 17 UN resolutions.

"Nothing says 'diplomacy' better than a fully-charged phaser bank!"


By that logic, you invaded the wrong countrydude. You should have invaded Israel.


You sound a bit Anti-Semitic. I don't think Israel was part of the discussion.

Uhhh ... criticizing Israel is not by it's nature being anti-semetic.

I had to read it three times before I even had a clue what the hell he was talking about - which is, uh, a few more times than I usually give his stuff - and I think I know where he was going. It's not antisemitism, even if it is pretty garbled thinking.[/b][/quote]
It is neither anti semitic nor garbled. You are right. Criticizing the State Of Israel is not anti-Semitic (BTW, Arabs are Semites as well)
If the logic for invading iraq was ignored UN Resolutions then read this

http://www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk/pa...resolutions.htm

I am not saying that Israel is right or wrong and I am not passing judgement. I do say, however, that if the excuse for invading Iraq was UN Resolution violations, then Israel should have been invaded years ago. I think that is pretty clear.


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