Wow, this thread seems to go on forever, there is some very valuable information, some great things written by long time industry vets that i will definetely take to heart.

There are a great many things written about the company i work with, most of which i wont address. It is obvious that their are certain disagreements, these issues are being handled by the courts.

To say any more would be to fuel gossip and exascerbate the animosity among the other webmasters who seem to have taken sides, thats not what "family" is about.

JoesHo made a good point to me on another board about what is and is not acceptable behaviour so i'll follow his lead and keep the company's confidential issues quiet untill we have reached an appropriate time and place to disclose that information.

My proffesional family is made from those people who know i give my best everyday, that i never quit or give up, know that i will not shy away from controversy, love the fact that i am outrageous, outspoken and hyper-creative.My family knows i will never fail them, never come up short. My family knows I will laugh the loudest when we're up and work the hardest when we're down. Right now things are pretty good, we had a great convention, but that only means i have to go now because the best never rest and my family is depending on me to deliver. See ya ! :okthumb:

fierce, to clarify, I haven't taken sides - and I don't see many others around here doing so either.

I could care less about your business, employees, ex-employees or any of the issues that come from your business, employees or ex-employees.

Its not that I have anything against you, I just have no interest in being involved in more of Melissa's crap :bwave:

Well said CJ, as i said earlier, this is neither the time or the place, the point i was trying to illustrate in keeping with the theme of the thread was that family shouldn't have open airings of dirty laundry and displays of animosity and rancor. as my grandfather used to say "nobody else needs to smell our shit" .

I believe quite the opposite ... family are the ones you can air your dirty laundry in front of, and they love you anyway. family are the ones who can critisize your dirty laundry, but jumps on anyone else who does.

A magnet on my fridge says it best ...

A friend is someone understands your past, believes in your future, and accepts you today for the way you are.

I hope you get your 'shit' cleaned up ;-)

Family to me, at least in the Oprano sense, means that almost everyone here understands where I've come from, and how I got here.

And more importantly, understands that there is a certain person in this business who I NEVER wish to have to confront again...and who makes sure that that person, and his 'associates', are not welcome here.

They know that this is my home...and I don't want it invaded. :)

SpaZ --

You know we both were helping out at the joke resource just a few years ago and the efforts were in vain.

No meetings, no team building and no bullshit.

I would waste that time again gladly if nothing more to make your acqaintance.

I know your a busy guy...and anyone that attended the Extreme Feish party saw that your a demon when it comes to video editing... the loop you created for that slide show was funny yet perfect for the night club....

and I know your busy on your new business project....

your already family. People just got to know you a little more!

Post more when you have time!

Wow!!! what a great post but when I aw this I had to come out with guns blazin

Ok - Azure attended AVN under The Event Magazine - Not my main company Black Knight Publishing. This is an online magazine and allowed us press access, behind the scenes, etc and it was also a favor to Azure Entertainment for taking care of me this long.

This was considered part of what "family" is taking care of who takes care of you. I would do that for anyone who takes care of me.

At 6'9" tall - anyone would have seen me including my cousin who was there was never at any time escorted by security. And I have pictures from AVN to prove it.

My nickname is invasion - I use that from my days as a dj - dj invasion - DJ Invasion Google Searches - my real name is Steven and yes I am a webmaster for mainstream and adult....So this may help clairfy some of the other stuff...

For all I care - she can go fuck herself!!!

I have never taken advantage of anyone or caused such stupidity as she has. This is one reason that I do not do business with her as she continualy fucks people over and over.

This not only will hurt her but her daughter also...

Melissa davies or Voitenka or whatever you call yourself - gather the wagons cause "as the good reverand once said, take heed to all who call as the Black Knights will be victorious once again"... :salute:

Anyway - eveyone have fun and hope no one got sick at Internext and AVN

Peace :rokk:

Invasion ,

nice to see you here posting and I can understand your position.

I think CJ speaks for Oprano when in her post she says


If you read earlier in this thread , Melissa has been proclaimed a scammer by everyone a number of people on this board who are full fledged Oprano Family.

And is proclaimed non family as a result.In this particular case that means IMHO , that no one on this board , would , as biggy said , in another thread, "buy anything from her , we might sell her something"

;-)))


We know OF Melissa and judge her to be a scammer.

You I personally don't know but can imagine the pain in the ass you are dealing with.

I am amazed you were unaware of her rep when you hired her.

I am glad to see members from your company ajnd yourself defend your stance in a professional manner.

This board is about business.

The Oprano Family is growing daily ans getter stronger.

Eventually Oprano Family members will NEVER have to do business with someone who isn't ......... family :)

Ok first off..lol.. My Real name is Robert DiMarco and every one who has ever done business with us knows that, it’s on every contract I have signed. Unlike you Melissa I was not attempting to hide my identity, but because I have 2 children, I do not want my family exposed in anyway, but thank you for posting that and showing your “Family Values”

Melissa- Please post the criminal report number for the charges and the detective handling the case on the “Shoe incident” and the insurance fraud.

Also the comment on “Recruitment of underage talent by Michael Fierce” is a total lie. As everyone who has ever worked for us knows including talent, Larry Walters is our legal in this matter we follow the strictest of guidelines when it comes to talent and age verification implementing standards in 2257 before they become law.

BTW: We are members of ASACP and also have our own children. And of course because of the slanderous remarks I’m sending Larry this post. Man my legal is going to be way to high this year.

I do have a criminal and civil case against you, Law Enforcement has subpoenaed Adam Barish’s Bank Records as well as yours as you are aware and we are reviewing them. We also have the Im conversation and you’re telling customers to wire funds to an outside bank and all the other conversations (once my case is done I will post them here if the board wishes.) I have signed sworn statements from people that might shock you, all the BS you tell everyone will come out in the case.

The rest I will leave to the judges and the Legal teams. Its funny you say you did nothing but since you left sales the first month were up 130 percent and up over 300 percent the following month. Hmm makes one wonder. We here at Azure know what happened as so do others close to the company. Once our case have been completed we will then respond to any and all questions but we will not “take the bait” and jeopardize our case against you, Melissa, or Adam and the people that assisted you. We do apologize to the board for these posts, dirty laundry is never pretty.

Also Melissa it was wild at the booth at Internext, I can’t tell you how many people have come us to us telling stories about you and how you screwed them, it was like we have joined a club, the “Screwed By Melissa, Billinguru, Davies, what ever her name is now Club” Quite enlightening…

Now for My 2cents on Family
There is your blood family the people that stand behind you and love you no mater what, your children that look up to you and follow your every word action their everything you can see it in their eyes every time they look at you. The people who would give anything to each other in some cases even forfeit a life to protect another

Then there is your Business family, this is the family that work together to grow, spends hours and hours together to achieve (most of the time) a common goal. These bonds can run deep and when they break can cause huge fall outs do to the link or bond that has been formed through the time effort and struggle it take to make business happen.

I am not a big posting person, I read the boards all the time and each board is a community or family, like bonds are created but these are only words and can only go so far as to develop a family bond. So I guess in my humble opinion the boards can be a foundation to developing relationships that can further into stronger ties.

If you look at the industry as a whole we are all part of one huge family the “Adult Industry Family” Ours is a small group even with all other aspects combined (Internet, Home Entertainment, etc.) and should all work together to protect our family and its goals. Will everyone get a long…nope, every family has its issues its part of life but we are all working towards the same goals, in an industry that is not exactly loved by those on the outside (Yet they all use our products) that alone binds us in ways other industries do not and unites us even if we don’t care for everyone in the industry (we are only human)

Well that my small rant, enjoy the day all.

Diesel ,

Good post. I understand your rant , TOTALLY. I'd feel the same.

I hope you and members of your firm will join in and conduct business here.


Welcome to Oprano :)

thanks Nickatilynx

Oprano family is a good and nice family and that is why I post here...

Thanks Gonzo for letting me speak my mind...

and Great post Bobby - amazing!!!

1st of all Invasion is an employee of Azure entertainment

2nd if anyone had bothered to ask me I would happily have discussed the other issues.

3rd I have posted these and to date the only people who have been served with any legal documents have been Azure Entertainment


Want to know about past issues - as I said before I'm happy to discuss them - in full detail

I think it has been established that Melissa is OUT of the circle of trust.

She must be a Fokker!


:lol: :lol:

Explain why individuals of your company come to WRS/Macdaddybuck's party and start yelling at one of the content producer's I work with closely, loudly proclaiming with our food and drinks in his hand at how he doesn't have anything to do with theives.

I said it on GFY, and I'll say it here. From that outburst at our party, I would not do business with your company and if asked, would not recommened anyone to do business with you.

I don't give a fuck what your problems are with any one else, but to be a right fucking asshole at a free party we were doing for our clients is not only unprofessional, but a public slap in the face.

By the tones of the reposnses in this thread there seems to be only one thing left to say to you Melissa
show your tits or shut up















heh heh sorry, just HAD to say that

spaz

OK.... how about we take this to a new thread , Melissa????

Even I have heard of you...

And it is not good things.

Something about dodgy mail lists etc...

oooops.....

errrr Invasion...

In case you don't know....


Anthony is like my brother.In fact he is not "like" , he is.

If he says these things about you there in one thing I categorically know.

Its true.

as you all know, invasion is my board and aka name - my real name is Steven - and yes I am not only an employee but the webmaster and use my old stuff to post and I dont want to register new stuff

no one here has been served with anything - I am here from 9am to 7 or 8 most nights and anyone can reach me - - even if it is not a business related item - I have no problem helping anyone


To Mike AI - your a pimp - hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance and

final not on this - Anthony - please dont quote my name in with your party - it was your choice to do the deal with Melissa and Adam but he Fierce can be a hot head and he meant no harm by it

I enjoy meeting and helping anyone I can and developing long term relationships as "family" should be

Oh my icq is 281385059

I also agree with Bobby as I have friends and family that aren't always keen on what I do and I use "invasion" as a security to protect them...

Hey its all good and Peace :rokk:

oh wanted to add

I wasnt at the wrs party - kinda tired

Peace :rokk:

Explain why individuals of your company come to WRS/Macdaddybuck's party and start yelling at one of the content producer's I work with closely, loudly proclaiming with our food and drinks in his hand at how he doesn't have anything to do with theives.

I said it on GFY, and I'll say it here. From that outburst at our party, I would not do business with your company and if asked, would not recommened anyone to do business with you.

I don't give a fuck what your problems are with any one else, but to be a right fucking asshole at a free party we were doing for our clients is not only unprofessional, but a public slap in the face. [/b][/quote]
I do apologize for one of my employee’s out burst, it was improper and wrong and shold never have occurred.

The content producer in question is Adam Barish and if you were to review my post from before you will understand the staff's frustration he is one of the people in question in stealing from Azure. Some people are more emotional than others, but its no excuse and he was reprimanded for it.

Anthony if you could tell me how did you meet Melissa and Adam? Just curious.

As for doing business you chose Melissa and Adam, I can understand why, friendship and all good luck, I can only wish you the best. Did I tell you I have all of Melissa's IM's from before she left man it make good reading drop me an email and Ill send them to you.

Well Im off to a hearing for Melissa.

This is my last post on the subject
:D

Easy Nick what Anthony has to say about someone rudely bashing one his content suppliers is directed at me and my yes "innapropriate" behaviour, while my behaviour may have been innapropriate, something a few people have pointed out and a message that i have taken to heart from them, the message is not. Anthony your "content provider" is a crook, operating in cahoots with Ms Voitenko, I felt it was in everyones best interrest that they should be alerted to being in the presence of of scum. I have no regerets for what i have to say and apologize only for the manner in which it was said, Unfortuneately i couldnt afford a full color billboard.

I apologize to you for any embarrassment my outbursts may have caused you but hopefully it will serve its intended purpose, which is to inform you and others that the individuals in question are scammers and crooks.

The embarrassment that i caused at the party will be nothing in comparisosn to the embarrassment you will be subjected to when you find out you have been ripped off. Be carefull in your dealings, as you can see from so many other posts these people have been at this sort of thing before. You wont be able to say you weren't warned or didn't know. I have made it quite clear to all that Adam Barish and Melissa Voitenko are criminals, who will be dealt with by the courts.

In my family we dont lie, cheat or steal.

Some strong words here.

Like I said, I don't give a fuck what your business is with Adam and Melissa. I work with Adam Barish who has given us an excellent product, and continues to do so.

All I've heard are excuses why such unprofessional actions were perpetuated on our party. So far, we were disrespected because of your "Previous" history, nothing that we did.

A very smart man told me once, "Excuses are reasons for failure".

No matter what your problems are, the actions I witnessed gives me enough information for me to form my own views of who I would or would not do business with.

"sorry the circumstances made me be immature and idiototic and left me with no choice whatsoever in the matter... blah blah blah..."

The only thing worse than an asshole, is an asshole who wastes his breath trying to justify and rationalize being an asshole.

In the future, when i am President (and eventually supreme ruler of the planet), I will decide who learns HTML and who doesn't and what kind of idiots will be allowed to work on the Internet. Together we will clean this business up one idiot at a time.

Vote JR 08'!!

Haha JR - so true - so true

and Anthony - glad to hear that you have been and have gotten a succesful product from them

That doesn't matter to me but getting pissed of at me for something I have done and having Nick the same - dude - uncool but ok - I guess alot of people mistake me for a guy half my size...

Maybe when you come to Florida - you can meet me and we can grab a brew

Oh I have attached a pic below for future reference

http://www.djinvasion.com/images/Stevens_photo.jpg

but that err...I'll shut up. ;-)))

Probably a very very good looking man too...




fierce,

It appears that you are a bit of an asshole.

Currently I wouldn't buy anything from either you lot or Melissa.

I'd sell ya some stuff though.










I support JR's manadate.

everyone should pause.
take a deep breath.
and watch this clip.
http://www.croqaudile.com/index.php?page=c...=4363#clips4363

THATS A HUGE BITCH!!!


;-))))

I know who you are, and frankly showing me your pic makes me think you want to throw down. Maybe I'm taking it wrong, it looks like a chance at intimidation, which if you ask around, doesn't mean shit to me. If I'm wrong and you just love showing your pic, then it must be my imagination.

I didn't blame you, read my first post. As for catching a brew, maybe in the future after all this clears up and I don't have to deal with this bullshit.

Fuck off cunt, does it get any planer than that? :barfon:

Nice tune...

catchy..


meeee ah hooo!! meee a ha!!!

Fuck off cunt, does it get any planer than that? :barfon: [/b][/quote]
A plethora of cunts in fact , Joe.


Whats the collective for cunts....

A brothel of whores..

a GFY of cunts?????



~~~ me aho!!! me aha!!!

charging into a lions den as a gladiator is not always the best move...

I agree, I trust Anthony's judgement 100% and that has defiantly put a shadow of skeptism on any kind of business dealing with you ..

I hope you change your stance before it is too late for you, cause as I said on GFY I stand in Anthony's corner

and Invasion, intimidation will only get you hurt when dealing with this crowd, you might wanna take a step back and get a hold of yourself

tall is good for basketball, and maybe works for Normal webmasters, but I asure you that tactic is going to be the worst possible move you could make, and quite possibly could land you in the hospital.

Hey Nickatilynx - I am 6'9" tall - thanks for the HUGE comment - much appreciated


Anthony - its not a means to throw down or anything like that - it was just to let anyone know who I am and that I cant be mistaken for someone half of my size

Showing the pic was a matter of love...

Yeah - lets grab a beer when you come and the dust settles

I a webmaster - true and through - not sales and I like to party, drink , get laid and have fun

Florida is perfect for that

Great song JR

Thanks and have fun :barfon:

To repeat :

""Currently I wouldn't buy anything from either you lot or Melissa.

I'd sell ya some stuff though."""

:)

Fine,

Thank you for the clarification. You are definately no that the person who caused a scene, though I do remember seeing you at our parth.

For what it's worth, peace.

I haven't made any excuses, nor will i. I did what i did. The time, place and delivery of the message was innappropriate, the message itself was not.

I posit this question to you JoesHos, who has the most to gain? The most to lose? Who in your family will turn out to be "Fredo" ?

Now we can all sit around here taking a giant shit on each other or we can all go back to work. Me I got bills to pay so this will be my last post on this topic untill the court has given a decision.
:ttth!:

It's a "Set"

Oxford English Dictionary:
Cunt(n); Saxon word for Sheath or Scabbard,
Common vernacular for female genitalia (vulg.)
Albarn (Damon) (20th cent. pop.mediocrity)
Collective noun: Set ie. “You bollock-brained set of cunts, how much time do you set of cunts have to waste on this type of shyte”

also I found these useful terms

“set” of cunts
“mound” of twats
“bunch” of fanny’s
“peck” of pissflaps
“bundle” of labia
“pot” of clitorii
“bucket” of minges

To me family is sticking together with people you care for through thick and thin.Watching each others back and doing all you can to help them when they are in need

Hey guys

not hear for intimaidation just clarifying and helping with info

I am the easiest guy to get along with and hell of a lot of fun to party with

Hope when you guys come down to Florida, we can grab a beer or so and chill in the sun at the pool looking at the honeys

Have fun and keep it real

Invasion :bwave:

Ya know, Melissa?

I've been following this thread with some interest.

I don't know you; but, I know of you.

When someone says he or she will 'happily' discuss issues that are legally a pain in the ass and hurtful to someone else's business, I get suspicious.

I'll never know if 'my details' will be plastered on some board. There is something called confidentiality. There are also times when circumspection is appropriate.

I don't know if I am considered part of Oprano's family. Maybe someday.

But, you, my dear, will never be part of anyone's family.

You have a big mouth and too much dirt trailing behind your name.