Labret, there is NOTHING to debate about,
like it or not, but USA is a free country,
you can do whaever you like withing the law and what's there to debate?

You wanna be a rebel without the cause and get a rise out of the crowd?

this is kinda hard to do from people who don't give a flying fuck
;-)))

what else you expect from me?
talk Sunday footbal?
;-)))

BTW, I share with you one of your bel;eives...care to guess which one?

I give you a small hint:
R O M E

Your posts, your avatar seem to be designed ti illicit(sp) offense. That is an unintelligent way to state your opinions.


Probably closer to Illuminati

State your opinions without name calling and you may possibly pass as someone with an education AND intelligence.


spaz

Offensive to some, a powerful statement to others. Of course I knew the avatar would get an ugly response from the kneejerk reactionaries. And nothing makes me laugh harder than the bleating of fools who lack the ability to coherently respond to the flood of emotion, Vick for example. The avatar was made for simians like him/her. We study this a lot in soc, its called ethnomethodology.

Nobody with any sense would be offended by it. When I see someone burning a flag I am more inclined to ask them why, not kneejerk. The inability to control that sort of reaction is a sign of lack of intelligence.

Sorry, no can do in this instance. The thread started with name calling, it shall end the same way. Like I could have an intelligent debate with Vicky? Cmon now. I spend all day nearly every day in debate, no need to tell me what debate requires. It is all I do.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 05:06 AM

[Labret], will you post appologies next time you get drunk and let the truth come out, like you did on GFY,
or did you quit drinking?

You must be confusing me with Lord Fletch (PBUH), I am not a drinker. I mean, I do drink, but its been a rather lackluster month for me in the partying department. If I was drunk my posts would be much much more vitriolic.

Apologies? For what? Offending my inferiors? Their very existence offends me. Vick should apologize to me for being alive.

edit, ahhh the GFY thread. You explain to me Russian prison immigration and I will explain that thread. Deal?



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 05:28 AM

ahhh...Mr. Sociologist, can't even get a rise out of Russian...all those years of studying wasted for nothing
;-))

what IS "Russian Prison Immigration"?
is that some thing you learned about in your "college" or the bathroom wall of a truck stop?
;-)))

if you meant CUBAN, I can answer you, but if you truly meant Russian,
]I suggest you chose your sources more careful...bathroom walls are NOT the best sources, son
;_))))

[Labret] - there's one thing we agree on
You shouldn't reproduce

You're narrow minded and ignorant. Hiding behind a supposed education and keeping yourself immersed in academia because you can't cope in or with a real world.

As you cry of your supposed superiority you expose your feelings of inferiority


Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha, charade you are
And when your hand is on your heart
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost a joker
With your head down in the pig bin
Saying "keep on digging"
Pig stain on your fat chin
What do you hope to find?
When you're down in the pig mine
You're nearly a laugh

You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

You are just repeating yourself now.

Pink Floyd lyrics. Sheep always quote the most overrated band in history.

Mr Sociologist, and what are your Music Credentials?

My wife has a degree in music conducting, and you?

You haven't dealt with the statement any time I made it

Actually I'm not a fan of Pink Floyd but those lyrics fit your board personality well

Now I've got tasks to perform but I'll push your buttons if and when I feel like it

Mr Sociologist, and what are your Music Credentials?

My wife has a degree in music conducting, and you?[/b][/quote]

Conducting uh? Something I wish I understood better.

My credentials? For years I ran a small record label out of Canada with a partner, specializing in small runs of very niche specific collector vinyl. I currently host a dump for mid sized music pirates. Shhh dont tell. 25 to 30 releases a day. A hobby of sorts.

You want narrow minded, get me started on music. Ill have you clawing your damn eyes out.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 06:20 AM

What statement would that be exactly?

I been waiting for two days for some coherent response. Blathering about life and following it up with Floyd lyrics hardly constitute button pushing. You make Amp look skilled.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 06:21 AM

oh really???

I managed Dan Spitz from Anthrax...I doubt very much you can do me any damage after that experience...
;-))

There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up. In fact, I believe that you will find that if you compared the emotional ("kneejerk") response of a highly intelligent group against that of a "normal" intelligence group, you will find the more intelligent group to have the stronger emotional "kneejerk" reaction. You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence. So, an uncontrollable emotional response ("kneejerk") may actually be a sign of the presence of intelligence.




:yowsa:

What statement would that be exactly?

I been waiting for two days for some coherent response. Blathering about life and following it up with Floyd lyrics hardly constitute button pushing. You make Amp look skilled.[/b][/quote]
Actually almost any statement but let's go with

You're narrow minded and ignorant. Hiding behind a supposed education and keeping yourself immersed in academia because you can't cope in or with a real world.

As you cry of your supposed superiority you expose your feelings of inferiority

Don't feel the need to puff yourself all up, that just makes you look worse. Your supposed credentials impress no one but yourself.

Can we hear about your childhood? Were you abandoned or had feeling of abandonment?


and one day let's start a new thread just for music discussion


You've already admitted you're narrow minded

oh really???

I managed Dan Spitz from Anthrax...I doubt very much you can do me any damage after that experience...
;-))[/b][/quote]

I vaguely remember that actually. You and Amp had your final blowout on his board right?

There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up. In fact, I believe that you will find that if you compared the emotional ("kneejerk") response of a highly intelligent group against that of a "normal" intelligence group, you will find the more intelligent group to have the stronger emotional "kneejerk" reaction. You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence. So, an uncontrollable emotional response ("kneejerk") may actually be a sign of the presence of intelligence.




:yowsa:[/b][/quote]
you got him, the Mr Sociologist is beaten on his own subject
;_))

Nice to watch....
;-)))

I vaguely remember that actually. You and Amp had your final blowout on his board right?[/b][/quote]
this is as right as me being Gay
;-)))

Amp never been to that board....or even mentioned Dan's name..ever
;-)))

Fine, I will cover this again. Reading comprehension does not appear to be your strong point. Try and follow along this time.

Immersed in academia because I fear the real world.

As if you have even the slightest inkling what a life in academia requires. Like it is just some fantasy world where we lock ourselves in small rooms with little or no human contact? For the last time, I study people. Psychologists study the mind, physicians study the body, we study culture. How many psychiatrists and physicians you know that do not deal with the subject matter on a daily basis? Why would my field be any different? Does this make any sense at all to you? Would you say that psychiatrists and physicians are just hiding from this "real world" idea that you posit? What is this real world you keep blathering about? And fear the real world? I find your world fascinating, so much so I choose to spend my life studying why it even exists and how and why it functions. Your ignorant ass does not even give these things a second thought, yet I am the one living in fear?

Why even debate what academia is with me when you have absolutely no idea what it even requires? Humor me and tell me what my day involves.

I am surrounded by people that dwarf me intellectually on a daily basis. Its the nature of the beast. I do not brow beat them for being smarter than me, instead I strive to be like them and learn from them. I pay a lot for this type of abuse. It makes me stronger. You fear and loathe those smarter than you, I respect them. Inferiority, you know it well.

Totally boring and uneventfull. Parents married 34 years so far, 2 sisters, no abuse, no drugs. Raised in both a rural and urban environments. Father blue collar shipyard worker, mom a typical housewife. Anything else?

Trust me, if Pink Floyd is the pinnacle for you, you will have no idea what the hell I will even be talking about.

You have no idea just how narrow minded I am. It is staggering.

this is as right as me being Gay
;-)))

Amp never been to that board....or even mentioned Dan's name..ever
;-)))[/b][/quote]

He did have a message board that you spammed all over the place though right? I never did understand the Serge / Anthrax connection. Regardless, I thought I recalled amp on it.

I am surrounded by people that dwarf me intellectually on a daily basis.
************************************************** ********

I always knew that about Oprano
;-)))))

I am taking Vitamin E to help with my memory loss...
what's your poison?
I suggest you join me in 1000 mg daily
;-)))

..at least we'll have the same memories
;-)))

"There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up."

Yet you claim the same thing in reverse without somehow backing it up?

"You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence". I think you would probably be more likely to find certain kinds of mental health problems within academia then you would find outside of it. Much the same way there are mental health issues that you probably wont find in academia that you will find prevalent elsewhere.

Also, to lump all of academia into one group is absurd. Comparing people doing graduate work in art history to people doing graduate work in forestry and genetics, you are dealing with two very different crowds.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 06:54 AM

Conducting uh? Something I wish I understood better.

My credentials? For years I ran a small record label out of Canada with a partner, specializing in small runs of very niche specific collector vinyl. I currently host a dump for mid sized music pirates. Shhh dont tell. 25 to 30 releases a day. A hobby of sorts.

You want narrow minded, get me started on music. Ill have you clawing your damn eyes out.[/b][/quote]
You never know whos listening on these things....
BIg Champaign is everywhere......

I think you're the one with a reading comprehension problem, I stated I'm not a fan of Pink Floyd but the lyrics fit your board personality

Funny how you sidestepped the question of feelings of abandonment while giving your childhood background

and you know nothing of "my" world so you would find it fascinating or would you?

For someone with such a supposedly great intellect it's amusing how you can't express yourself without resorting to name calling or using the vernacular of the peasantry

I always found it a shortcoming when one must use profanity to express one's self in an intellegent conversation

..and those 2 crowds have MORE in common than you suggest,
plus...
I haven't seen YOIU backing up your "findings" with anything but retorics...

if you are the BEST what US education system can produce,
it's a pity.

you DO need European Classical Education,
as you make this russki smile with your inadequacies...
;-)))

"There is no tie in between emotional response and intelligence level that would back that up."

Yet you claim the same thing in reverse without somehow backing it up?

"You will also find a much higher concentration of neuroses and psychoses among the group with the higher intelligence". I think you would probably be more likely to find certain kinds of mental health problems within academia then you would find outside of it. Much the same way there are mental health issues that you probably wont find in academia that you will find prevalent elsewhere.

Also, to lump all of academia into one group is absurd. Comparing people doing graduate work in art history to people doing graduate work in forestry and genetics, you are dealing with two very different crowds.[/b][/quote]
Don't even try to twist my words.

I never said a thing about academia.

For you to assume that my mentioning of groups of higher intelligence means "academia" is naive at best and arrogant as all hell at worst.



As far as the first part of my post, let me state it more clearly. I do not think you will find any studies that will back up your statement that "The inability to control that sort of reaction is a sign of lack of intelligence.".

However, I believe that if you check, you might find some studies that will back up my assertion that you will find a higher propensity towards aqn emotional response from a higher intelligence group then a lower intelligence group.

Can I back that up? Hell if I know for sure, but I am pretty damn sure. Let me get done with my morning stuff and I will get back to you on it.

and one of [Labret] biggest shortcomings is thinking that education is limited to classrooms

Why would I have abandonment issues if my parents are still married and I still see them often?

I can imagine it must be quite complex.

I do not know what I find more tragic. That you find this an intelligent conversation or the inability to find humor in profanity.

I think George Carlin is a genius, and his use of profanity to color his speach is artful. I simply do not share your view on profanity.

Vick, go easy on him...he doesn't know any better,
his life expereinces are very limited....I am looking forward to his trip "in the world",
should bring us back "new and improved" Labret

As someone who deals with intelligent people on a daily basis, I can tell you that kneejerking and lashing out during a debate is considered poor form in the extreme. In fact, in most cases, if you can be the one who caused the other person to lose their cool so to speak while maintaining your own, it is considered a victory of sorts.

Losing control over your ability to control yourself in the face of adversity is not an admirable trait. Society generally respects a level head. You will never see George Bush calling anyone a "dumb fuck".

Oh, you were referring to those roaming hordes of highschool educated geniuses?

I am not saying you wont get a reaction from people who are considered of higher intelligence, but it sure as hell will be different. Billy Bob and Scooter witnessing a flag burning will have a different response then someone with a phd in behavioral psychology.

Ill just wait for whatever you dredge up from google before I continue.



Last edited by [Labret] at Nov 24 2003, 07:13 AM

To stereotype or lump every American into one group is not equally absurd?

spaz

a - still dancing

b - thank you

c - This is a somewhat intelligent conversation, it is going on currently between at least 3 (maybe someday 4) people with minds I have admiration and respect for

d - I also find Carlin a genius and incredibly humorous. But your using profanity as name calling is light years away from the work Carlin does

Vick, go easy on him...he doesn't know any better,
his life expereinces are very limited....I am looking forward to his trip "in the world",
should bring us back "new and improved" Labret[/b][/quote]

This whole life experience that people like Vick like to fall back upon is just a cop out for their own shortcomings.

I would still like to learn how a life in academia is somehow different that anyone elses life?

Some people make donuts, I learn things. We both still eat, sleep, and shit.

I am too.Can't wait til he trys to persuade a couple of pikeys in London , Glasgow , Dublin or Belfast how intelligent he is. ;-)))))

Pikeys love a good debate on this ;-))

Hes safe if he dangles a box of Krispy Kreme in front of em while hes talking.

People like Vick :devil:

Hmmmmm........ little stereotypical aren't we

[Labret] - you have some form of intelligence but you seem to be lacking in practical application of your chosen field of study as evidenced by your statements

If you think all homo sapiens are alike because we share the common traits of eat, sleep, and shit you've really missed a lot and contradicted yourself

now I really have some tasks to attend to, I'll check back as time allows

Why would that even be necessary? The only reason it is even being discussed here is because you dipshits question it. Did I start this conversation?

We are not homo sapien. We are homo sapien sapien. One sapien denotes archaic forms. No surprise you put yourself in that category.

I find your belief in diversity to be quaint and charming.