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LittleC 08-07-2003 01:58 PM

Should a society limit the freedom of businesses or people? Seems like a toss-up. Telling a business it can't exclude porn is also a limitation of freedom - of a different sort.
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hhmmmmm.....I don't have an answer for that - you got me there ! 1 point for you ! :)

It just works different here. As long I don't do illegal activities a bank is considered to be for everybody.

PayPal has accepted money from adult business owners and than suddenly they can say: we dont want you anymore thank you for your business, thank you for your money but you can GFY now...

what do you think about that ? I think that is wrong !

Almighty Colin 08-07-2003 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 01:06 PM
PayPal has accepted money from adult business owners and than suddenly they can say: we dont want you anymore thank you for your business, thank you for your money but you can GFY now...

what do you think about that ? I think that is wrong !

I have this dichotomous nature.

Of course I would like everything in the world to work to my benefit so I'd prefer PayPal to accept adult transactions. I think it should be their right though - even though that is to my detriment.

LittleC 08-07-2003 02:15 PM

Nice opinion !

Hope to see you someday !

Bye & was nice speaking with you !

Almighty Colin 08-07-2003 02:16 PM

Why did Pay Pal stop accepting adult transactions? Ethics or because of chargeback difficulties? It wouldn't benefit anyone to force Pay Pal into an unprofitable business. If it's a good one, the possibilities are now open for a competitor.

*KK* 08-07-2003 11:43 PM

Paypal got out because their idea of fraud control doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a fraudulent webmaster or affiliates abilities.

Billy 08-08-2003 01:10 AM

Colin, I sure hope you are going to make it to the best party in Vegas.. the PHB III !

I am sure we can get you some business at that party : )

Heck with Peaches as a date who knows where you will end up !!

JonStern 08-08-2003 01:19 AM

I am new to this board, but been in the industry for a while. I just have one question ragarding parties of this nature (with the live sex amnd shit)....

Why is it a group of people that see porn all the time for a living, work around porn all the time and are at a porn industry convention, want to climb the walls and crawl over people to take all the pics they can of people having sex? Seems a little funny to me....the funnier thing is, when I see it right in front of me at a porn convention, or anywhere for that matter outside of my bedroom, I find the bar more interesting...

hehe

Jon

SykkBoy 08-08-2003 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JonStern@Aug 8 2003, 12:27 AM
I am new to this board, but been in the industry for a while. I just have one question ragarding parties of this nature (with the live sex amnd shit)....

Why is it a group of people that see porn all the time for a living, work around porn all the time and are at a porn industry convention, want to climb the walls and crawl over people to take all the pics they can of people having sex? Seems a little funny to me....the funnier thing is, when I see it right in front of me at a porn convention, or anywhere for that matter outside of my bedroom, I find the bar more interesting...

hehe

Jon

Because a lot of those people aren't in this business only for the money... ;-)))

now, give me two content models dressed like vampires and it might get my attention

Sabby 08-08-2003 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--LittleC@Aug 7 2003, 10:25 AM
of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi

beware what you ask for...she SMOKES alot!
;-)))

ok, it's a deal,
she loves doube teaming on me...just bring your own baseball bat
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Sergie I think you need ME to join the team too! and I will bring my special bat.

http://private.amsterdamlivexxx.com/...mallboobs2.jpg

My bat is verrrrry popular on Interclimax!

I am a total FREAK, lol, but I do not drink piss!


Sabby:)

SykkBoy 08-08-2003 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sabby+Aug 8 2003, 12:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sabby @ Aug 8 2003, 12:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Aug 7 2003, 10:37 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--LittleC
Quote:

@Aug 7 2003, 10:25 AM
of course Serge ! **blink*** BUT only if LL joins the team !!!

hihihihihi


beware what you ask for...she SMOKES alot!
;-)))

ok, it's a deal,
she loves doube teaming on me...just bring your own baseball bat
;-)))

Sergie I think you need ME to join the team too! and I will bring my special bat.

http://private.amsterdamlivexxx.com/...mallboobs2.jpg

My bat is verrrrry popular on Interclimax!

I am a total FREAK, lol, but I do not drink piss!


Sabby:)[/b][/quote]
sabby...I'm.....speechless...

Sabby 08-08-2003 03:41 AM

LOL...

Yes... I know....

You all thought I was such a nice girl, right? :)


Sabby:)

Almighty Colin 08-08-2003 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Billy@Aug 8 2003, 12:18 AM
Colin, I sure hope you are going to make it to the best party in Vegas.. the PHB III !

I am sure we can get you some business at that party : )

Of course!

Almighty Colin 08-08-2003 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by *KK*@Aug 7 2003, 10:51 PM
Paypal got out because their idea of fraud control doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a fraudulent webmaster or affiliates abilities.
I think the law has no business getting involved then. Forcing businesses to stay in business to their detriment will cause more problems than are solved.

Obviously there is a point where there must be protective regulations. The banking industry is heavily protected against their own stupidity ;-)

Sabby 08-08-2003 05:40 AM

Billy sweetie... Can I be invited again to PHBIII...

Even though I am a "content"... I promise not to pee on the furniture :)))

http://www.oprano.com/reporter/01082002phb/DSC01584.JPG


Sabby:)

LittleC 08-08-2003 03:12 PM

hehe Sabby, I bet you can pee on anyone's furniture !!!

even on mine ! haha :awinky:

DannyCox 08-08-2003 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 08:08 AM
Colin, I remember those girls....

http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

There was a little nudity and such, but it was very tame. Especially by todays standards.


Hey all!

Carol doesn't even remember that picture! Anyone know who any of the other girls are? The only person we recognize is dear old "Joe Liberty" (Lovey - only the old-timers will remember that one!)

The shows have changed quite a bit, and not to my liking. That's one of the main reasons I send people down and only attend occasionally. You can see it in the various message boards, with 90% of the "webmasters" talking about parties, and not the show or business. Yes, we'll like to party, and we have had some great ones (Carol & Serge naked in the pool at MikeAI's party in Florida in 1998) :awinky:

The first party I can remember was the one JoeE held at the Clarion, when he had the strippers dancing on the tables. That's when his credit card wouldn't cover the cost (it was a lot higher than expected), and the hotel wouldn't take his check and anted to throw him out. Too funny! (for us at least).

I've always preferred the smaller, more intimate suite parties and receptions. You can have fun, hang with the people you like, and get some real business done. Ah, the good old days (Christ, I sound like my father!)

Danny

Winetalk.com 08-08-2003 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:39 PM
Yes, we'll like to party, and we have had some great ones (Carol & Serge naked in the pool at MikeAI's party in Florida in 1998) :awinky:


Danny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh my!!!!

Give Carol my best regards,
I wish I got closer to her in that pool,
I thought it wouldn't be our last time nekkid together
;-)))

but...I learned a valauble lesson,
NEVER POSTPONE!
;-)))

DannyCox 08-08-2003 03:39 PM

Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....

Winetalk.com 08-08-2003 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:47 PM
Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....

Danny,
if you need to find that pic to verify that I weared the condom -
I did NOT!
;-))

but...I didn't indulge either!
;_)))

gonzo 08-08-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Aug 8 2003, 11:50 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Aug 8 2003, 11:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:47 PM
Serge, I have to dig that picture up.

Now, just need to find it.....

Danny,
if you need to find that pic to verify that I weared the condom -
I did NOT!
;-))

but...I didn't indulge either!
;_)))[/b][/quote]
Oh shit another condoms and tests thread!

I bet Gregg lined up that tallent too!

Joesho1 08-08-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Aug 6 2003, 08:19 AM
Things like this are the reason I did not attend Miami and may never attend another show. There is a serious lack of a professional business atmosphere. I think we are seeing more businessmen staying home, or doing private affairs at shows, thus these idiots stick out even more.

I also heard the open use of drugs was rampant. One thing to do drugs on the down low, it is another to do them out in public and gloat about it.

You have that idiots like easton who OD's on coke and was back at the hotel doing more coke the next day, and bragging about it on the chat boards.

One day a drug bust will happen at a show, and some innocent people will be caught in the middle. Limo gets pulled over full of coke, or a small room party where coke is everywhere, cops will arrest everyone. There are some people in this business with serious drug problems.

Wow Bradshaw you sounded like you should organize a union... those were bold yet Intelligent statements! bravo to you sir! :)

XXXPhoto 08-09-2003 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DannyCox+Aug 8 2003, 11:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DannyCox @ Aug 8 2003, 11:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Aug 6 2003, 08:08 AM
Colin, I
http://hirise.biz/shows/old/014.jpg

[/b][/quote]
Oh sure the girls are nice... but where is the pic of 'OldFold' peeking out the
window of the YNOT 'suite' and beating off behind the curtain?

JFK 08-09-2003 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy@Aug 6 2003, 09:38 AM

I've been to "real" business conferences that were the same way. The parties were insane, out of hand and filled with drugs, hookers and all vices exploited.

Everyone thinks these parties are the downfall of this industry? No, the downfall is shady business practices, the VISA monopoly, the bullshit billing tricks, the LARGE amount of free hardcore porn available, overeducated surfers and our whole taboo factor (of course, the taboo factor is what keeps us in business).


Right On!

:okthumb:

Billy 08-10-2003 02:11 AM

This picture really scares me..

http://oprano.com/reporter/pics/oldfold.jpg

I don't know what to say when I see it.....


Sabby.. you can always play on my piano !!

JFK 08-10-2003 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharpie@Aug 7 2003, 06:30 AM
Did anyone else but me miss the fact that there was NO hospitality room this time? This type of incident is why. The attendees seem to have little respect for the obligations and liability of the sponsors. Many check their brains at the door or ' just don't give a damn.

I hope hospitality rooms are not a total thing of the past, because that is many times where some real business is done - but, I can't fault sponsors for not wanting to do it anymore.

Sharpie, I think most of the hospitality suites are usually in Vegas. Even there some of the larger companies discontinued them, because there did not seem to be a return on their investment. :stout:

BradShaw 08-10-2003 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK+Aug 10 2003, 04:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JFK @ Aug 10 2003, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Sharpie@Aug 7 2003, 06:30 AM
Did anyone else but me miss the fact that there was NO hospitality room this time? This type of incident is why. The attendees seem to have little respect for the obligations and liability of the sponsors. Many check their brains at the door or ' just don't give a damn.

I hope hospitality rooms are not a total thing of the past, because that is many times where some real business is done - but, I can't fault sponsors for not wanting to do it anymore.

Sharpie, I think most of the hospitality suites are usually in Vegas. Even there some of the larger companies discontinued them, because there did not seem to be a return on their investment. :stout:[/b][/quote]
And companies get a return on a investment spending $50k on a party? uh huh..... Big dick contest days are OVER.

Billy 08-10-2003 03:27 PM

Brad have I told you lately that the PHB III will be a lot cheapter then 50K ??

Just wondering : )

Shit how many days till Vegas ???

Sharpie 08-10-2003 03:43 PM

and damn it Billy - I had better be invited again! I am still in running for the same award i got last year :rolleyes:

Mike AI 08-10-2003 04:25 PM

See Serge, Oprano had a presence at the show!

http://www.fubarwebmastersadventures...oor/z01770.jpg

Almighty Colin 08-10-2003 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DannyCox@Aug 8 2003, 02:39 PM
Carol doesn't even remember that picture! Anyone know who any of the other girls are?

..


The first party I can remember was the one JoeE held at the Clarion, when he had the strippers dancing on the tables.

The blonde in the back and the girl on the other side of Lovey from Carol were the same girls that were dancing at JoeE's party. JD brought them - pretty sure they were from Houston. Can'r remember either of their names.

JohnIP 08-11-2003 12:39 AM

Well Shit if Danny can come out of the woodwork so can I,but just this once;)

I agree with almost all the old crowd has said here...and have had the same policy Danny has had...went to this last show however and understand now why I had that policy;) Although it was GREAT to see old Friends!

One thing to remember the third and fourth generation folks are very different then those that came before,nature of mentality between originators and followers, and as I told Brad in ICQ the other day, he's wastin his breath on the bulk of the Get Your Fries here Generation(GFY)...most are pimp wanna be's(and I mean that in every sense of the Godfather definition;)....JoeE wanna be's(with 90% less brains)...No sense of respect for accomplishment...heaven forbid they would be caught "Judging" anyone..there small timers who are probably at the pinnacle of there careers touting 100 posts on GFY and peein in cups.

Btw those girls in the pics were indeed JD's AND Porndaddys.I had hired them for the first Ynot suite In Orlando..I think they were the Texas Tease Girls.

Mike AI 08-11-2003 12:45 AM

John it was good seeing you in Florida!

I agree 100% with your post!

I hope that you will post more often now that you took the time to make that nice sig! :D

Seriously, lets talk this week about your dialer solution.... I need something for PureCash!

JohnIP 08-11-2003 12:52 AM

ROFL...Thanks Mike...was great seein you and your crew too.I didnt think Billy recognized me;) Dude the sig is cut and paste..I could NEVER have figured that out...dont ya remeber how bad the original html was on Inpraise;)

I drive up tomorrow to Atlanta man..Be in all week ..Lets hook up!!

Forest 08-11-2003 12:58 AM

johnip was in florida?

god i remeber my first johnip meet at my first fl show

you still in NJ john?

how is insite doing?

Sharpie 08-11-2003 09:46 AM

Hi there John. Was good to see you at Internext. Long time no see. Really missed Sammi! Heard she had retired from 'the show scene. Guess I am gonna have to come to Atlanta to get to see some of my old friends.

What is it going to take to get some of the 'ole timers out? I really want to know. That is the part of shows I look forward to. Missed seeing MFold too - didn't have any dance partners.

Peaches 08-11-2003 09:54 AM

John, it was GREAT seeing you again - you look mahvelous! B) I need to get back down to Atlanta while you're IN town and have a get together with the whole gang.

And Fay, get your behind up here and make me leave the woods to mingle. :awinky:

dantheman 08-11-2003 10:54 AM

I see a atlanta gathering coming together, let me know, I'll be there :rokk:

Mike AI 08-11-2003 10:58 AM

We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:

gonzo 08-11-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 07:06 AM
We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:

Count me in...Ill bring my fur!

Forest 08-11-2003 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo+Aug 11 2003, 10:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gonzo @ Aug 11 2003, 10:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Mike AI@Aug 11 2003, 07:06 AM
We should hav Atlanta get together when Saints are in town....

I will be there!!

:rokk:

Count me in...Ill bring my fur![/b][/quote]
ill fly up for that one!!!

minus the fur

well sort of

http://www.unmotivated.com/FL_2003/pages/1...506_IMG_JPG.htm

:lol:


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