Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BA:DE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA: <No data>
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Well Mark as you might be aware I don't show all my cards at once. Some cards I am waiting to use in a more appropriate forum.. Now if you were recording the call or something then why don't you just post it for everyone to hear I pretty much laid out your whole scam to Kedra which is why she was crying. She has been selling this for you and I don't think she felt very good about selling a license to people for you to have a venue to steal from them.

All I can say is at my second conference I was warned in detail about you from another victim and since then they have come out of the wood work one by one, I hung on as long as could to gather as much evidence as possible and will use it as I please.

For anyone that is going to say then take legal action... let me reply with this suing Mark Prince who doesn't even own a home would be like walking to the toilet and tearing up the cash to flush away - He is worthless and he has so many victims a class action suit which is warranted would net me nothing but headaches a lot like these little rants that waste my time.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Allright!

Yes, please post the link, I don't have a weekend to kill but it sounds interesting . . .

And no, I didn't know Darci . . . checking out her blog right now.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Hahaha I think I can afford to call in a few favors from them.
You know as well as I do they both hate liars as much as I do.

Should we call the new show LieBusters?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Very sorry, Scott!

I will ask Kedra for a Tit shot and get back to you.

In the mean time, here's a picture of another chat girl that works for us that may help you out.

http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pi...mnetwork-2.jpg


Cheers!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net/
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Mark,

What did I lie about? Be specific and when I proove you wrong and you go back under your rock maybe we can all go another couple months without you trying to take down me and Rachel to deflect from what your guilty of.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Very interesting.

According to what I had read on the subject, the only reliable way to obtain the MAC addy is to either enter Layer 2 and get it yourself or (preferably) have software go there, grab it, and send it back to you . . .

Either way though, I agree that it is settled, insofar as my original point went: you can be tracked by MAC address on the internet.

Disclaimer: I am a Larval stage ;) Pythonista/Rubyist . . . not into networking/security that much at all . . .

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Does Corinne have eyeballs?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I think they are with Kendra's mole thats missing from Camsturbation.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Oye..... on this thread

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=89512

you said

You LIED because it was NOT verified. Once again you just thought it would be fun to stir up shit about a woman you are obviously intimidated by.

So Shelleehale, if it was not "Verified", then you LIED not just to me, but to everyone else on here.

m

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Try all you want Gonzo, you won't win this lame argument of yours. You know what though, if you would only ask me these questions instead of assuming shit like you always do, you (and your readers here) would learn a hell of alot. I have learned alot (and continue to learn) from all kinds of people and companies in this business. If you continue to be close-minded and just assume shit, you will never learn anything, and your members here will go elsewhere.

Did we lay off people in 2007?
Of course! Re-read the previous post on this subject. When revenues are down, any company has to do whats best and trim the fat. Even though sales remained constant, the US dollar forced us to do lots of changes. If anyone wants to learn from us about what we did, please don't be shy to ask me personally. Making a company more lean helps to be more effecient and helps reduce costs. If you don't understand this very basic concept Gonzo, I feel sorry for you.

m

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Layoffs (reducing labor) is used very often by businesses to save money because it is the EASIEST method of doing so. Labor is usually the most expensive part of a business so of course reducing that expense makes the profits go up. Unfortunately, it is also the method that causes the most stress for those involved and creates the most bad publicity because people often feel betrayed. But like I say, it is the easiest method so many Non-creative managers who don't want to have to think go this route.

There are many creative ways to raise that profit number but they require out of the box thinking and hard work and planning to implement.

just my 2 cents :okthumb:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Nice tits on Corinne. I'd take those nipples and.... sorry, got a little carried away there.

Nice personal message on YNOT Kedra, even though Mark ended up using it for promotion. ;)

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Sorry Hammer! I learned how to be a publicity whore from MEDIAGUY. (He da man!)

Cheers!

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Whoever she is, she's almost as hawt as Kedra!

Cheers!

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Am I the only one who hasn't a clue who Mark or Shellee is? I've never even heard of his program but then again, I do very very little with cams since I work in niche and microniche.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Hi Pam,

My name is Mark Prince, and I'm the owner of 2Much Internet. (http://www.2Much.net). We make a program called LiveCamNetwork.com, and you can see it operate at http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com.

It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Mark is being generous, I feel... but the obvious doesn't need more than simple ocular verification:

Note the differences in boobs, in tongue piercing, and in mole... just to point out the obvious that seems to have remained unspoken here.

http://www.lcncash.com/images/kedra-not-kendra.jpg

Anhow, I want to thank everyone for what a great thread this was, very entertaining... and hey maybe the people from Camsturbator will end up over here too, pissing all over everyone... well, not me, I prefer to watch...

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano :) ) - Mark hasn't been explicit in telling what we do, and it's annoying to see. You refer to our "affiliates", which we don't have as 2much.net is a hosted software and services provider and not a consumer site. We refer to the people we do B2B with as clients or customers, site operators or owners, not affiliates.

One of the services we offer to webcam sites on our software is the opportunity to share out their models or enable those from different sites, even though they're basically independant. They can share content.

That's not "exporting". I guess you'd call it brokering...

2much buys from one and sells to the other "on the fly" as it were; this reseller system features the additional 5% holdback due to the risk we take transacting for others - 2much pays you the minutes bought from you, but there's no guarantee we get paid on the resale.

The software we sell however is what I think Mark meatn as an export.

(I know it's not a very dramatic contribution, just wanted to clear up a few things; carry on!)

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

And you have certainly proved your point Gonzo.

The way you say "running his cocksucker" is pretty funny.

Notice how he backed off from the MAC address debate?

I still want Mr. Mitnick to come on here and give us his opinion though (just because I'm a geek) :)

I have a lot of respect for the guy. Among the reasons are:

8 fucking years in Lompoc was it? And a white guy? And he made it out in one piece? That's balls.

Fuck.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Mark,

Isn't it time to come back as "Soundslikebullshit" ? Or did you scare that guy who lives near you using your old computer logging into oprano and posting from the same IP/MAC or whatever to go away with those good ole scare tactics of yours.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Omg take a photo of her in the same position you might have a different result - but don't worry we will soon have the proof we have all been waiting for..

By the way you don't call them affiliates well looky here http://www.lcncash.com/

and some of my affiliates that signed up claim they were spammed with LCNcash following their sign-up on ccbill you want that proof on here as well?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Shellee. The href with the kids is still there in your front page code. In addition, Google has it indexed from when it was on the celebrity page of the site (I looked and it is not there now) and it looks to me like it is indexed on your main page.

You really need to get that out of there and the sooner the better.

Just my 2 cents.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...licks.com+kids

Look at the text under the second result.

edited in: in fact, Google has picked up the kids ref on at least 4 of your pages

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22na...e=off&filter=0

Hit the link to show omitted results.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Well damn - all in 24 hours anyone else that successful with indexing a site overnight?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

lolol...I've had them go in that quick before. Google knows all :yowsa:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

It's easy really, just post a link on Oprano...

...and I'm not just trying to be funny, I'm dead serious. :okthumb:

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Just keep grasping at those straws, Shellee. Do anything you can do to cling on to anything that brings you happiness.

Why don't you spend your time fixing your site and removing the KIDS link from your website instead? Or don't you know how?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Shellee,

Read the message that Greg posted. He said 2Much.net has no affiliates, not LiveCamNetwork.com.

And sure Shellee, go ahead and send us more of your "Proof" that we spam people. Whatever floats your boat.

We're all going out for a few beers now. I suggest you do the same. Or just go drink alone, I don't care.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

almost always

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I think someone owes someone an apology because those are obviously two different women.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

You're kidding? You know Kedra, you've met her, you're putting me on... Pierced tongues, different nasolabs... what's the point? She works here...

For the benefit of those who DON'T know Kedra yet here's two more shots:

http://www.lcncash.com/images/goodkedrashot.jpghttp://www.lcncash.com/images/sexy-bella.jpg

ENJOY THE FULL GALLERY lol : http://camsturbate.com/performers/ga...sexy_bella.htm

LCNCash is the affiliate program for www.LiveCamNetwork.com, which is an example of the type of site we build & host and power. It's not the affiliate program for 2much.net, which doesn't have an affiliate program.

2much.net is a software provider, a B2B service provider.

LiveCamNetwork.com is a consumer-oriented site, for which you weren't an affiliate, except perhaps indirectly if or when you chose to resell LiveCamNetwork.com content to your customers on your site.

You were a client of 2much.net.

So, No, we don't call users of our software affiliates.


No I don't need it. I have an email a concerned webmaster sent me that showed the CCBill email list was sending across sub-accounts. The problem was fixed promptly, as soon as we were aware of it.

Thanks, though.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

You're kidding? You know Kedra, you've met her, you're putting me on... Pierced tongues, different nasolabs... what's the point? She works here...

For the benefit of those who DON'T know Kedra yet here's two more shots:

http://www.lcncash.com/images/goodkedrashot.jpghttp://www.lcncash.com/images/sexy-bella.jpg

ENJOY THE FULL GALLERY lol : http://camsturbate.com/performers/ga...sexy_bella.htm

LCNCash is the affiliate program for www.LiveCamNetwork.com, which is an example of the type of site we build & host and power. It's not the affiliate program for 2much.net, which doesn't have an affiliate program.

2much.net is a software provider, a B2B service provider.

LiveCamNetwork.com is a consumer-oriented site, for which you weren't an affiliate, except perhaps indirectly if or when you chose to resell LiveCamNetwork.com content to your customers on your site.

You were a client of 2much.net.

So, No, we don't call users of our software affiliates.


No I don't need it. I have an email a concerned webmaster sent me that showed the CCBill email list was sending across sub-accounts. The problem was fixed promptly, as soon as we were aware of it.

Thanks, though. But I'm just about done my day here, this was a fun run, too, between jobs, but now it's post-office-activity so... CHEERS! gotta run!

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano :) ) [/quote]

Thanks, though I've been here for a few years and have known Gonzo for about 3.5 years from another board.

:)

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Thanks, though I've been here for a few years and have known Gonzo for about 3.5 years from another board.

:)[/quote]

mouhahah sorry i'm embarassed... oh well I like to think we're ALL newbs on some level :P - so I hope the intro to us was at least understandable...

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

ShelleHale:

The next time you accuse someone,
The next time you have "Proof" of anything
The next time you shoot your fucking mouth off, remember this image:

http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pi...llee-hale1.jpg

This picture was taken TONIGHT, lady, TONIGHT.

And just in case you were "too proud" to click this link over to this Ynot page:

http://www.ynot.com/index.php?name=P...topic&t=128954

Kedra said : "I'm quite happy where I am and I wanted to share this one with you because you have always been great to me around here. Thank you! 2Much and LCN are my home and I'll be here as long as the customers will have me! "

So the next fucking time you open your TRAP you had better have some real proof otherwise you are just digging your own ditch a little deeper every time.

NOW:

Just so you know, ShelleeHale, there are no hard feelings. As someone who you know pointed out to us tonight that you are probably "just a depressed Avon lady looking for the next big thing". You are welcome to keep looking, and keep trying new web ideas and I am sure you will hit a magic one. Until then, we all wish you the best of luck. CHEERS TO YOU!


http://www.livecamnetwork.com/bbs-pi...llee-hale2.jpg
(Mark, Kedra, Mediaguy)

Just please stop pretending to be an expert on anything, and leave Kedra (and all of us) alone. Get it? Got it? Good! (And OWNED once again!)

Thank you and God Bless.

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

I think so too Hammer, but I really doubt it will ever happen. Oh well.

Cheers!

m

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Well it looks like sexy_bella and soundslikebullshit have run off together. It nice to see you out celebrating because it won't be long until your in a 9x9 cell so enjoy....

Greg, thanks for the confirmation on your spamming and oh yes I guess with all your expertise and years in the business mistakingly spamming all your licensees affiliates can't just be called a mistake and that a lame attempt to blame ccbill?

Let's add this one in there as well here is another one of your "This is not spam" emails that you had in my backend... how many of these inadvertantly went out?

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

wow, i can't believe I read this whole thread

this has GOT to be the worst thread in the history of oprano, almost up there with fighting with trolls on gfy...yeah, that bad

a bunch of people fighting over absolutely nothing that matters

Re: Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6
 

Why'd you even look at it in IE?

How's it look in firefox?
That's what inquiring minds wanna know.