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Grump you forget the basic rules about women.

Rule 1 - Women are always right

Rule 2 - If you find a woman who is wrong then refer to Rule 1

I have obeyed those rules religiously for the last decade and it has led to a long and happy life for me and my wife :)

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Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 14 2005, 03:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 14 2005, 03:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cj@Apr 13 2005, 10:16 PM
but on the subject of the animal enjoying it ....

that is such a copout of an excuse ... ok, there may be some animals who get pleasure from this, but using that as an all encompassing excuse borders on animal abuse.

for example ... female dogs, when they are ready to have sex, go on heat. the blood provides lubrication as female dogs have no natural lubrication at all. When a male human being sticks his dick in an unlubricated dog, do you think the bitch is getting pleasure from this?! same in reverse for a male dog, they don't carry that little pink lipstick around in its own little protective case for nothing!

When the bitch says no she means no. (edit. The female dog, not CJ ;-) )

CJ's tips for bestiality content producers: Please use lube. [/b][/quote]
Would you like me to introduce you to some PETA reps? If you think I'm obnoxious and opinionated, imagine if you added unlimited finances and celebrity faces to that combination.

But more importantly, because few people here care that animals are being abused for human pleasure and are entirely driven by the money asoect, let me ask you this ... how many of those who ran beastiality sites back in the day have actually made a financial benefit out of it and hung onto it?

There was 3 guys I had the misfortune of working with who were responsible for most of the 'furry' sites in 99 ...

1 is a heroine addict whose family walked out on him
another is broke and still being investigated 6 years later
the other can't travel for fear of customs and being blackmailed

all 3 live in fear of hans berger and the 'men' he's sent to investigate the illegal use of his content and have trouble finding people who will do business with them anymore.

so moral and ethical issues aside, what is the point?

guilt has a funny way of eating away at human beings insides. you might say you think its funny and entertaining now for the purpose of discussion, but eventually your actions catch up with you.

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Originally posted by Grump@Apr 14 2005, 05:50 AM
Wow CJ... you intentionally (I hope) missed every point I made. Yes the list says rape sites but we both know that they are referring to rape fantasy sites containing simulated rape depictions.

Ignore the issues and argue the minutia right CJ? You'll be the one arguing about the color of the hose as this industry burns to the ground.

I guess next you'll either tell me how you own3d me or how damb good looking you are.

d u d e, get a grip!

I suggest you step outside, bash your head against the wall of your house a few times, then come back and try again.

If I seriously need to tell you how good looking I am, we are never going to get past this first stage of conversation!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

oh and you are so ... like ... own3d dude
look how easily you came running for 50k hits!!!!!!

:lol:

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Originally posted by cj@Apr 14 2005, 06:39 PM
Would you like me to introduce you to some PETA reps

I lived with one. Why do you think I am this way now? ;-)

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Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 15 2005, 02:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 15 2005, 02:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cj@Apr 14 2005, 06:39 PM
Would you like me to introduce you to some PETA reps

I lived with one. Why do you think I am this way now? ;-) [/b][/quote]
That explains sooooooooooooooo much :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by OldJeff+Apr 15 2005, 07:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (OldJeff @ Apr 15 2005, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

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Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Apr 15 2005, 02:59 AM
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@Apr 14 2005, 06:39 PM
Would you like me to introduce you to some PETA reps

I lived with one. Why do you think I am this way now? ;-)

That explains sooooooooooooooo much :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
There should be a national database of PETA members.

Just remember, PETA is a religion... that's all you need to know about it.