Yes you ignorant fuck.

Lets use an example that hits a little closer to home.

The Native Americans were largerly hunter gatherers. When they were forced into sedentary lifestyles (farmers) on land they were not native to, they had no idea what the fuck was going on. As a result there was a lot of starvation and disease. It became a matter of conform or die. And in the process a vast majority of them did. They still have not recovered in a lot of areas.

See the connection yet dumbfuck?[/b][/quote]
So we can say that the Native American culture was inferior, because Native Americans were incapable of adaptation.

Thanks for proving my point.

So we can say that the Native American culture was inferior, because Native Americans were incapable of adaptation.

Thanks for proving my point.[/b][/quote]
I wonder how the average fat American fuck would do at hunting and gathering.

I wonder how the average fat American fuck would do at hunting and gathering.[/b][/quote]
Americans adapt. Also, our culture is such that we don't have to be hunter/getherers. That's an example of the idiocy of cultural relativism.

It is such a horrific idea that we have game shows that revolve around it, Survivor. Where we all take joy in watching the average American reduced to a starving babbling idiot. And that is with giving them tools and food rewards.

Explain how its an example.

The people on those shows are not "average Americans." The people on those shows are jackasses competing for cash prizes.

The average American lives in the bask of his superior culture which ensures him protection against starvation (like in Africa) or poverty (like in Asia, Africa, and most of Europe).

Explain how its an example.[/b][/quote]
Americans don't starve to death. Our culture is superior.

Americans adapt. Also, our culture is such that we don't have to be hunter/getherers. That's an example of the idiocy of cultural relativism.[/b][/quote]
Where would the average sedentary American be without supermarkets, fast food outlets and 7-11's?

They'd be eating each other and their own feces that's where.

Adaptable? LMFAO! Do you mean that this week they buy Nike and next week they buy The Gap?

I know for a fact that Wig and my kid would do great. :P

I will do this slowly...so you can possibly understand it. This person asserts that cultural relativism is flawed on the basis of immigration to the US and as a result of that immigration, the US is morally superior.

Cultural relativism cannot be refuted by the immigration patterns of relatively few individuals - it simply asserts, that which the majority of any given society, at any given time, determine be right or wrong is based solely on the majority of that society's determination. Nothing else.

There is no way to refute this position based on immigration, unless this individual is privy to enough data to demonstrate at least in someway, the majority of individuals in any given society disagree with the moral mandates of that society and seek to emmigrate to the US based on that factor, his position is absolutely flawed. Even then, his position would not hold. He is using an idiotic anecdotal inference to justify a universal position; namely the US is morally superior...his premise is beyond justification or even salvaging...therefor, the conclusion does not follow.

People move to australia, GB, mexico, canada, taiwan, thailand, eastern europe, etc., their motivations are not all similart, just as those who move to the US - there is no tandem to be found - the position is for the cognitively flawed to swallow.

read it slooooowly.

best of luck -
aeon

Well done, thats gonna leave a welt.

So let me see if I got this straight.

American culture is superior.

The idea that blacks are equal to whites is disproven by the existance of equal opportunity/affirmative action programs.

In other words, having been denied the opportunity to participate fully in the superior culture, their failure to catch up in 30 years or so somehow proves that they are not equal?

Caller ID light is lit ... I recognize THAT number.

Yes you ignorant fuck.

Lets use an example that hits a little closer to home.

The Native Americans were largerly hunter gatherers. When they were forced into sedentary lifestyles (farmers) on land they were not native to, they had no idea what the fuck was going on. As a result there was a lot of starvation and disease. It became a matter of conform or die. And in the process a vast majority of them did. They still have not recovered in a lot of areas.

See the connection yet dumbfuck?[/b][/quote]
Oooh, more name-calling. Can I play along?

Okay, you intellectually abhorrent waste of skin, try this on for size.
Compare the number of native americans that died in your example to the number of Africans (after all, we ARE talking about Africa here, even though I can't fault you for attempting to change the subject since you have such a short memory and an embarrassingly low level of reading comprehension) who have died.. and are STILL dying... in the wastelands of Africa.
Today the Native Americans have access to doctors and dentists, pasteurized milk, immunizations, and these really cool things called refrigerators that keep your food from spoiling.
The Africans that we're talking about? They're still living in the mud picking flies out of their eyes, maggots out of their spoiled food, attempting to chew on dirty roots with the two good teeth they have left because there's no water to wash the root, and their childrens' bellies are hyperextended to such a point they look 9 months pregnant because of the malnutrition.

Try again, asswipe.

30 years?
PD, even your art of exagerration to make a point is really being stretched here.
Slavery was ended in 1865.
That's when their freedom and opportunities began.

If you want to drag this down to a level of voting and such, I guess you should throw women into the mix... oh wait, on average women have taken the opportunities allowed them and gone racing ahead full speed... that just won't do to fit the scenario.

Dumbass, try and follow this time. There is no difference between what happened to the Native Americans and what happened to certain areas of Africa. You at least see how starvation and disease accompanies the forced integration of indigenous peoples into foreign subsistence patterns, in this case the Natives... yet you cannot see how it happened in Africa? I know you like to generalize Africa as one giant Ethiopia, but about the only thing African indigenous populations shared is that they are all "black". Try to imagine it like a larger Europe, all a bunch of crackers but all speaking different languages and having different cultural customs. I am getting off track.

The only difference between what happened to the Native Americans and the African countries you are talking about is that the Native Americans have not been able to run off the white man. Whereas many of these small African nations have managed to do just that. So you are left with a bunch of uprooted uneducated indigenous fucksticks that kicked out the infrastructure of their country, trying to run a semi-modern nation state? When a couple hundred years ago they were all hunter gatherers? Its like Detroit. The jigs kicked 98% of the white people in Detroit out after the riots in the 60s, with it left the infrastructure and wealth of the entire city, and now we are left with Detroit. Largely a massive ghetto full of poverty and crime. Buff will say that is proof that niggers are an inferior culture, but I say it is only proof of our failure. Had we indoctrinated them better, we wouldn't have had the problems we have with cities like Detroit and issues with affirmative action or any othe race issue you choose to discuss for that matter. Fuck, I am making it too complicated for you.

Gonna just boil it down.

Whitey created nation states in Africa, whitey left, incompetant hordes take control and try to run something they are completely unprepared to. So yeah, they are gonna have problems. And whether you like to believe it or not, not every country in Africa is a bunch of fly picking aids ridden infomercials.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 04:25 PM

Are you out of your fucking mind.

You ever heard of Jim Crow? Yeah, it was great to be black and in Alabama between 1865 and 1960s.

http://www.jimcrowhistory.org/home.htm

Segregated schools, water fountains, and shit like that ring a bell?



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 04:08 PM

Good job, Labret and Joe,
keep impressions coming!

you guys rock!

Anything for you Surge!

Anything for you Surge![/b][/quote]
I'll be in Brissie in October...will you suck my cock?

I might feel lonely so far away from home
;-)))

I'll be in Brissie in October...will you suck my cock?

[/b][/quote]
Only if you suck mine first.

Only if you suck mine first.[/b][/quote]
It's on the internet - now you have to follow through! Be warned, Serge has VERY sharp teeth and tends to have a problem with lockjaw. But hey, you were smart enough to get yours first..... :P

Only if you suck mine first.[/b][/quote]

AaronM told me that all you have to do is give him a box of cheap wine and he will be anyones bitch, errr... I mean "private dancer".

AaronM told me that all you have to do is give him a box of cheap wine and he will be anyones bitch, errr... I mean "private dancer".[/b][/quote]
How about we get Surge and Fred together?

Now that it something I'd pay to see.

Chain Surge up and give Fred six boxes of mushrooms and a weeks supply of viagra.

How about we get Surge and Fred together?

Now that it something I'd pay to see.

Chain Surge up and give Fred six boxes of mushrooms and a weeks supply of viagra.[/b][/quote]

At first I laughed really hard, and then I realized that image is gonna be burned into my mind forever.

Also, on the subject of Fred, check your pm for those people for him to contact.

Only if you suck mine first.[/b][/quote]
ok, but I am a biter...I'll go first,
shoulkd improve your voice drastically

Peaches, you just confirmed what I posted above!
;-)))

I'll suck his nuts gladly
;-)))

AaronM told me that all you have to do is give him a box of cheap wine and he will be anyones bitch, errr... I mean "private dancer".[/b][/quote]
you I'll fist....if you promise not to like it

freds, shmeds....I just mentioned my cock and you quazi itellectual drug addicts got all excited...
wanna sniff my ass too?

Quit fucking with Darwinism damn it
The strongest survive and the winners write the history books

The human race is flawed no matter how you want to dissect it

I'm rooting for Planet Earth (though it doesn't need my support)

How soon to Yellowstone erupts?

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Piss away all you want, rant and rave

In the end the ground settles all


Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust
(and Juliette Lewis and Selma Hayek in Dusk to Dawn)

I will do this slowly...so you can possibly understand it. This person asserts that cultural relativism is flawed on the basis of immigration to the US and as a result of that immigration, the US is morally superior.

Cultural relativism cannot be refuted by the immigration patterns of relatively few individuals - it simply asserts, that which the majority of any given society, at any given time, determine be right or wrong is based solely on the majority of that society's determination. Nothing else.

There is no way to refute this position based on immigration, unless this individual is privy to enough data to demonstrate at least in someway, the majority of individuals in any given society disagree with the moral mandates of that society and seek to emmigrate to the US based on that factor, his position is absolutely flawed. Even then, his position would not hold. He is using an idiotic anecdotal inference to justify a universal position; namely the US is morally superior...his premise is beyond justification or even salvaging...therefor, the conclusion does not follow.

People move to australia, GB, mexico, canada, taiwan, thailand, eastern europe, etc., their motivations are not all similart, just as those who move to the US - there is no tandem to be found - the position is for the cognitively flawed to swallow.

read it slooooowly.

best of luck -
aeon[/b][/quote]

Remember when you said you had a problem getting your pisses to go multiple pages?

This is why.

Dont bring out the big guns so fast, dumb it down, bring them in close, dance with them awhile, get them all happy and worked up, then... then crush them.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 05:24 PM

At first I laughed really hard, and then I realized that image is gonna be burned into my mind forever.

Also, on the subject of Fred, check your pm for those people for him to contact.[/b][/quote]
Thanks man. Will pass the info on to Fred.

Will you let us know when you decide to "crush" us? You've been here almost 5 months and, well, we're growing a bit impatient. Since you'd been banned from GFY, I really expected you'd be a better equipped adversary. :(

Then again, there's that pearl from Ulfie regarding being banned from GFY so maybe I set my expectations too high!

30 years?
PD, even your art of exagerration to make a point is really being stretched here.
Slavery was ended in 1865.
That's when their freedom and opportunities began.

If you want to drag this down to a level of voting and such, I guess you should throw women into the mix... oh wait, on average women have taken the opportunities allowed them and gone racing ahead full speed... that just won't do to fit the scenario.[/b][/quote]
If you believe that opportunities for black people began in 1865, after the elimination of legal slavery, then you and I simply cannot talk about this subject. Your ability to ignore - or whitewash - history makes it impossible. What you call my exaggerations are what I call your willful disregard of the facts, and there is simply no basis for communication.

that paragraph would be way funnier if you added at the end, "you ignorant hillbilly bitch".

Labret, are you a homosexual and why?

you like mp3s Serge?

Will you let us know when you decide to "crush" us? You've been here almost 5 months and, well, we're growing a bit impatient. Since you'd been banned from GFY, I really expected you'd be a better equipped adversary. :(

Then again, there's that pearl from Ulfie regarding being banned from GFY so maybe I set my expectations too high![/b][/quote]

I worked on GFY for years, prior to that I was a veteran of the bloody usenet wars of the mid 90s, I have nothing but time for you. 5 months? Pushaw, this is still foreplay granny.

I like travel, red wine, sex,
all prefferably at the same time

BTW,
you cashed my $2500 check and you don't make the promissed 100 posts a day....

I want my money back!

granny...making me horny won't relieve you of your obligations...
where are my 100 posts a day, bitch?

You know I've found um .... Pussy and Red Wine go very well together


Please pardon my vulgarity


and that's all I got to say about that