"I didn't assume anything" and in the same sentence "I made an assumption". Oh....Kay..... :unsure:

Bah don't be silly.. But as far as I knew it was always kind of rude to grill people about that. As far as I'm concerned, in the end, it doesn't matter if a child was planned or unplanned, if they are loved, well taken care of, well taught and have everything they need to have.

My first child was unplanned, only becase I was told I would NEVER have children, tried for years with my first husband and never succeeded. Doesn't mean he isn't wanted :)

Well hot damn look at that.
She doesn't know everything, after all.

I'm sure you know what you can do with your ASSumptions.

...pluck eyelashes, argue with peaches and carrie....hmm tough one.

I'd rather save money on mascara.

edited to add the carrie part.



Last edited by cherrylula at Dec 3 2003, 11:23 AM

I don't understand your assumption that all the mothers around had their children unplanned.. For all the kids unplanned and born out of wedlock, a lot are born to marriages and planned for you do realize. The glass is not always half empty.[/b][/quote]
That's okay. I don't understand the assumption that people with no kids know nothing about kids and are unable to have opinions on if a parent did something wrong or not

But people around here assume that, too.

The glass not always being half empty is a social problem that will be corrected when the revolution occurs. You will be given a glass by the state and the water in it will be poured according to your need.

Who decides your need? Not YOU, of course....it will be the local magistrate's half-brother's cousin.

Have faith in your fellow man to know how much water you need! Paradise is near!

Kinda like a person who DOESNT smoke cigarettes recommending you should never smoke.

What do they know?

Dont tell me not to smoke, ill smoke if I want!

Ill have kids if i want too, and ill teach them to smoke!

PS: i dont smoke cigarettes, its a bad habit.

keep your kids away from stogies, and second hand smoke!

I'm only in this thread to flush Mitnick into the open....

That's okay. I don't understand the assumption that people with no kids know nothing about kids and are unable to have opinions on if a parent did something wrong or not

But people around here assume that, too.[/b][/quote]
I don't believe I said that, but I agree that you can NEVER truly know what parenthood is like, living with a child raising them day in and day out, being responsible for everything.. Potty training, sickness, temper tantrums, all that, until they actually HAVE children. It's like trying to imagine what it's like to live with a life-threatening illness or disease. You can NEVER truly say you know what it's like or can understand the experience unless you have it.

Doesn't mean people without kids can't have opinions, however no one opinion can possibly fit every parental situation. Every child, every family is different. It's easy to judge something based on an opinion, but unless you are fully aware of the situation at hand, that opinion means about as much as the piss I took this morning. Catch my meaning?

Kinda like a person who DOESNT smoke cigarettes recommending you should never smoke.

What do they know?

Dont tell me not to smoke, ill smoke if I want!

Ill have kids if i want too, and ill teach them to smoke![/b][/quote]
I hear the state will be handing out cigarettes each according to their need right after the water glasses are filled or unfilled according to need. Or something like that.

Name me one university that's a bastion of bull dykes smoking cigs drinking from half filled glasses of water while popping out kids.

Trichotillomania?

I hear the state will be handing out cigarettes each according to their need right after the water glasses are filled or unfilled according to need. Or something like that.

Name me one university that's a bastion of bull dykes smoking cigs drinking from half filled glasses of water while popping out kids.[/b][/quote]

http://www.oru.edu/

Youre a good dad KRL, you make some moms look like shit.[/b][/quote]
Thanks Fletch. Being a parent, especially a single parent is the hardest job in the world. There is so much you have to do, it absolutely drains you by the end of the day. And I only have one. How people do it when they have 4, 5, 6 and more kids I can't imagine. My sister has 6 and she usually sounds like a zombie when I talk to her.

http://www.oru.edu/[/b][/quote]
I was gonna say marymagdalene.edu, but that's pretty close...

Oh my goodness, that's too funny. A gay Ken doll. LOL :yowsa:

http://www.oru.edu/[/b][/quote]
God doesn't believe in bull dykes. Try http://www.agnesscott.edu/

No doubt man.

Coming from a single mom household with 3 boys, I can have nothing but sympathy on some.

The parents I dont like are the high and mighty, 'you dont know shit until you been in my shoes ones,' while trying to say what GOOD parents they are.

Today on Oprah: Moms Who Spend More Time Online Than With heir Kids

I bet it would be ahit!

How many moms would tune in?



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Teletubbies are Evil - :grrr:

and not allowed in my home[/b][/quote]

Don't... don't you make me do it... Don't make me put up my favorite Teletubbies page....

:yowsa:


Telebubby Fun Land

I disagree. A person living with the parents would know exactly what it is to be a parent in the terms you are describing and the manner in which it has been discussed so far. Furthermore, it is logical that they would have had parents themselves, and got an idea about parenting just from being a child. Discounting their opinions on the subject is irrational.

Wherein lies the difference is the emotional attachment to your child. Attempting to quantify THAT part of parenting, and relating THAT issue in the parent/child relationship, you could make a more reasonable statement that the person doesn't know what they are talking about because they have had no real life experience.

You don't have to be a parent to state an opinion on whether or not someone is a good parent or whether or not a parent did something the correct way.

By your own logic, any discussions of national politics are now meaningless since no one here has been President, Governor, or Senator.

I'm gonna start tossing that line out now. "You were never President! You don't know!"

the best parents are on Jerry Springer

Anytime I see that show, I always think can you imagine having these fucked up tards for your parents.

Anytime I see that show, I always think can you imagine having these fucked up tards for your parents.[/b][/quote]
let me tell you folks a little about jerry springer.

having worked in the southern california chatsworth porn capitol for over 4 years now, i have known MANY people that are paid to go on that show and act.

those strippers you see acting like cheating wives etc, they are paid and they come from all over, MANY from southern california.

its all just a show.

i couldnt understand how some stripper was excited about getting paid 200 bucks, a free hotel room, and flight to humiliate herself on tv.

but nonetheless, they do it, and then they come back to the strip club, and brag about it, and how much fun it was, they end up spending way more than they make, and come home kinda bitter.

i would have never thought this, until the porngirls started being shipped off because springers management found a goldmine of idiots in this valley

HAHAHA



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Anytime I see that show, I always think can you imagine having these fucked up tards for your parents.[/b][/quote]
there is a play called Greater Tuna that was made into an HBO special once. if anyone has seen it, they will know what my family is like.

which begs the obvious question: "So gee Fletch... for how long did they have you fooled into thinking it was real"?

lets stop the spoilers right now... next thing you know you will be claiming WWF is staged as well.

:rolleyes:

hahaha

ok you got me.

my point was more to say come to LA and you can see those dumb whores shake their tails for dollars.

most are hookers here anyway.

maybe some of you business guys could fuck a few on a trip.

stop looking at your parents,
not everybody as unlucky as they are....

Anytime I see that show, I always think can you imagine having these fucked up tards for your parents.[/b][/quote]
Jay from jays-xxx-links.com and Consumption Junction has apparently been on there a couple of times. :)

I have and old bf who had trailers he rents out (says it's a massive ROI) and he swears he'd love to hook up a "Jerry Cam" on some of his tenants. :P

Hmm, so basically what you are saying is to teach the attitude that being gay is wrong (by NOT addressing it as a reality)......and condone children who make fun of people/kids who stick their necks out there......okay.....I get where you are coming from now............

You are right about that, Jim. The teacher involved and the disciplinarian in question should be locked up in a room with the idiot from LA who wrote the now infamous "master and slave" memo.

Well, it just so happens that I know a little bit about this subject. I have three beautiful daughters, all heterosexual and all very normal, who have two mothers - and have since the youngest was two, the oldest was seven. It caused them a few problems along the way with a (suprisingly few) students/other parents, a couple of teachers, and one born-again bitch of a principal who disrespected my daughter, her mother, and me - and who is no longer the principal of one of the "plum" magnet high schools on account of it - although I'm sure she enjoys the challenge of working with the discipline probems of an urban school district.

We told the kids what's what from the time they FIRST asked. They were bright, inquisitive little shits who would have seen through us in a minute if we'd tried lies like 'roommates."

I understand why adults who have trouble getting around the fact that not all families are traditionally nuclear would advocate lying to kids. Just because THEY are very slow doesn't mean that mosts children are. I have never thought that was a good idea. My ex's lover is a bitch and a half, but I never allowed my kids to play on the fact that I felt that way (they all tried) - I knew she loved the kids, and I backed her up when necessary the same way I did their biological mother.

What if his family were rednecks? It would be really hard to explain that his daddy was also his uncle... :biglaugh:

You obviously are not a parent or gay.

Thank GOD!

You obviously are not a parent or gay.[/b][/quote]
Now, Dianna - since when does making a dumb statement preclude someone being a parent?

I know it seems like I’m targeting you…I’m not. Its comments like yours that really piss me off. No doubt you are shadowed by the same ignorance so many people are.

Being gay is not about sex. It’s a lifestyle choice and should be entitled the same right of choice as anything else. Why should this choice, a relationship/love, be handled like a taboo or forbidden topic? Why can’t people just raise their children to be tolerant and accepting of all people regardless of race, gender or lifestyle choices? Lying to them to cover up a very real truth seems pretty fucked up to me.

My son was raised by two women. His world was full of choices, love and acceptance. We didn’t share our private sexual preferences with him. When he was 15 and asked me about sex I gave him some great books explaining all the different options including role-play and bdsm. I said, “Read these first then come talk to me.” We spent time talking about it. Through the years he’s dabbled in things and we still continue to talk about things openly. I would change my relationship for anything in the world. We have a very honest real bond. I would hide anything from him. He’s literally my best friend.

Get a grip on reality darling. Times are changing.

Now, Dianna - since when does making a dumb statement preclude someone being a parent?[/b][/quote]
lol- ain't that the fucking truth????

Atheist!!!!!!!
;-))

More fitting to this thread would be GAYtheist.

:D