Pick me, pick me!! :bjump:

I would release all those who committed victimless drug crimes (and I include those who sell drugs - I don't consider people who make a conscious decision to buy drugs as "victims") and harsher punishments for those who rape and/or kill. And yes, my harsher punishments would help alleviate the prison population problems. :awinky:[/b][/quote]
agreed.

What contradictory ideas was I flinging around like poo?



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 08:34 AM

[quote]Originally posted by [Labret]@Dec 2 2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

God its like beating my head against a fucking wall. Listen, we are all well aware how statistics are manipulated and created, in fact, we are required to take courses in statistics and methods of social research in order to learn to how to deal with such matters. Trust me, I am sure my knowledge of means of gathering and manipulating data sets is far above average and as a result I know which statistics I can accept and which ones I should be suspect. I will say this one more time. Checks and fucking balances. I know you probably like to think its just a bunch of yes men standing around, circle jerking each other and making shit up without a care in the world, but your accusation that "facts" are just "created" in academia is so utterly absurd that I almost want to disregard your post and not respond. Evidently nothing I have said has sunk in. Academia works in such a way that one CANNOT just make shit up.

One cannot just make shit up....

Try this on for size, fucktard:

Emory University upholds objective truth and ousts an anti-gun history professor for his phony research

Labret, you are a dipshit of the first order. This shit goes on all over the place in Academia today, precisely because leftards are the one overseeing the the other leftards.

Noam Chomsky (since you brought that issue back up) detests capitalism and the West in general, yet he has no problem owning a couple of boats, 2 houses, a sports car, and SUV, and assorted other goodies provided by capitalism. I called him on his hypocrisy (after a little research), and he shut the fuck up.

So, I'm gonna put your "One just cannot make shit up" quote right there along side your new economic theory that higher costs for business is an economic stimulant in the "Idiotic shit that flows off Labret's Keyboard" pile.

Any other contributions you'd like to make to it today, or will you be too busy "learning" that "AIDs was created by the Pat Robertson to kill fags" or some such similar tripe?

What a douchebag.

Thank you for proving my point. He got caught and ousted.

I feel bad for you.

Like I said, I could make shit up all day. It will get called out.



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 08:37 AM

The communists are doing something wrong then, because about 102% of the population of Iraq voted for Hussein if I remember correctly. It ain't like the old days in Mother Russia, eh Serge?



Last edited by Buff at Dec 2 2003, 10:35 AM

ahhh...spoken like a true intellectual!

is that's all you can squeeze out of you after your nose was pushed in the shit you call STATS?
;-0)

I am sorry...I didn't wanna hurt your feelings
;-))))

What contradictory ideas was I flinging around like poo?[/b][/quote]
when you bleated out about what your professor told you about the US incarcerating a higher % of people than the USSR...............that is poo on so many levels its scary. Forget the fact that stats would be at the very best unreliable from that time period, but common sence and an understanding of the climate of the USSR at the time begs for you to retact that statement.


spaz

Hmmmm .... wouldn't say you have a direct person to person personal type interest ...


.... but you may have some interest as it is being covered in one of your fields of studies

:awinky:

[quote]Originally posted by [Labret]@Dec 2 2003, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buff,Dec 2 2003, 08:33 AM Quote: Originally Posted by [Labret ,Dec 2 2003, 09:33 AM] Quote: God its like beating my head against a fucking wall. Listen, we are all well aware how statistics are manipulated and created, in fact, we are required to take courses in statistics and methods of social research in order to learn to how to deal with such matters. Trust me, I am sure my knowledge of means of gathering and manipulating data sets is far above average and as a result I know which statistics I can accept and which ones I should be suspect. I will say this one more time. Checks and fucking balances. I know you probably like to think its just a bunch of yes men standing around, circle jerking each other and making shit up without a care in the world, but your accusation that "facts" are just "created" in academia is so utterly absurd that I almost want to disregard your post and not respond. Evidently nothing I have said has sunk in. Academia works in such a way that one CANNOT just make shit up. One cannot just make shit up.... Try this on for size, fucktard: Emory University upholds objective truth and ousts an anti-gun history professor for his phony research Quote: Mr. Bellesiles's book won the 2001 Bancroft Prize, the most prestigious award in the field of American history. Anti-gun activists seized upon his work, since it supports their view that the Second Amendment right "to keep and bear arms" does not refer to individual gun ownership but to a collective establishment of "a well-regulated militia." Trouble is, he seems to have made up his data. Other historians found that his sources either did not exist or contained completely different evidence. And now Emory University has taken the unusual step of investigating his research to see whether it violated a university policy against academic dishonesty. Emory commissioned a blue-ribbon panel of historians—Stanley Katz of Princeton, Hanna Gray of the University of Chicago, and Laurel Thatcher Ulrich of Harvard—to examine Mr. Bellesiles's research, and the panel's report found him guilty. Mr. Bellesiles, while still maintaining his innocence, resigned. Mr. Bellesiles developed his claim that early Americans seldom owned guns by studying wills, probate records, and other inventories of property, then counting the numbers of guns that turned up. Thus he claims that from 1765 to 1790 on the frontiers of northern New England and western Pennsylvania the gun ownership rate was only 14 percent. To arrive at these figures, though, the panel found that Mr. Bellesiles lumped all kinds of different information together, then manipulated it statistically. Wills seldom mention specific property, other than keepsakes, and some inventories were intended to be just of farm implements. Probate information from the estates of women, who were less likely to own guns, was added into probate information from the estates of men. Conflating all of this together and then taking percentages of the number of times guns were mentioned allowed him to understate the number of firearms. Mr. Bellesiles also uses certain records from local militias, in which citizens came together into ad hoc military units to repel Indian attacks, fight the British in 1812, or fight each other in the Civil War. He claims militiamen came to the fight basically unarmed. He cites one muster in 1746 in which only 57 percent of the men brought a gun. The review panel found this to be a blatant misrepresentation. The original records list only one company—composed of particularly poor citizens—as being 43 percent disarmed. Of the other five companies, every man brought a rifle in two of them. The total rate of gun ownership in the militia was 80 percent. But the problems in Mr. Bellesiles's research went beyond mushy statistics-mongering and biased and selective interpretations. Mr. Bellesiles claimed to have used probate records in San Francisco. But those records turned out to have been destroyed in the great earthquake and fire of 1906. When asked to produce his original notes, Mr. Bellesiles said that he lost them when his office was flooded, an event that his colleagues at Emory dispute. When asked about fallacious data posted on his website, he insisted that some hacker had put it there. Labret, you are a dipshit of the first order. This shit goes on all over the place in Academia today, precisely because leftards are the one overseeing the the other leftards. Noam Chomsky (since you brought that issue back up) detests capitalism and the West in general, yet he has no problem owning a couple of boats, 2 houses, a sports car, and SUV, and assorted other goodies provided by capitalism. I called him on his hypocrisy (after a little research), and he shut the fuck up. So, I'm gonna put your "One just cannot make shit up" quote right there along side your new economic theory that higher costs for business is an economic stimulant in the "Idiotic shit that flows off Labret's Keyboard" pile. Any other contributions you'd like to make to it today, or will you be too busy "learning" that "AIDs was created by the Pat Robertson to kill fags" or some such similar tripe? What a douchebag. Thank you for proving my point. He got caught and ousted. I feel bad for you. Like I said, I can make shit up all day. It will get called out.

Dipshit, his book was praised, won awards, and went unchecked by YOUR leftist Academics for a few years before some Libertarians busted his ass.

There was no check or balance by any Academics until some private think tanks did their own investigation.

Shut your cocksocket, bitch.

when you bleated out about what your professor told you about the US incarcerating a higher % of people than the USSR...............that is poo on so many levels its scary. Forget the fact that stats would be at the very best unreliable from that time period, but common sence and an understanding of the climate of the USSR at the time begs for you to retact that statement.


spaz[/b][/quote]

So it wasnt contradictory statements? It was just statement you feel are false but cannot prove are false?

when you bleated out about what your professor told you about the US incarcerating a higher % of people than the USSR...............that is poo on so many levels its scary. Forget the fact that stats would be at the very best unreliable from that time period, but common sence and an understanding of the climate of the USSR at the time begs for you to retact that statement.


spaz[/b][/quote]
Spaz, word bleeating is one of his favorite words, because .....
he is just one, part of the flock, the product of today's academia,
where questiniong the stats is not rquired...
"Because Academia can't make mistakes"!

wow!

what an intellectually DEEP argument
;-))))

Sorry to burst your bubble, those are academics.

How can a university be held accountable for the research of someone outside the University? Sounds more like his publisher should have ran it by others before they published it.

This was not a thesis subject to the checks and balances of academia.

Make sense? Regardless, other academics nailed him. Good. And now he is ruined, see how that works there Buffy?



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 08:45 AM

you are correct, I should have been clearer on what exactly I meant by contradictory.
It is contradictory to common sence.
an I back it up with facts and stats? Nope, and neither can you OR your beloved professor...................THATS the point I was making


spaz

I think it's you lacking the proof...unless you SERIOUSLY beleive that the stats provided by Stalin are the "Mother of all stats"
;-))))

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, as you see, that you are just a product of Academia today and not a retard
;-))))

Just a look at lies, damn lies and stats

Labret may not have liked the Reagan era polices so he can show the rise in incarceration and see if it can be attributed to those policies

I on the other hand came look at overall violent crime stats and see they are down ..... and can attributed it to those policies


edit for spelling



Last edited by Vick at Dec 2 2003, 11:46 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, those are academics.

How can a university be held accountable for the research of someone outside the University? Sounds more like his publisher should have ran it by others before they published it.

This was not a thesis subject to the checks and balances of academia.

Make sense?[/b][/quote]
So you're saying there is no check on professors publishing books, just on idiots like you writing dissertations or theses in shit like sociology?

Labret... you're an ignorant little bitch.

guys, c'mon, let's go easy on Labret...
he spent too much time on GFY dealing with High Scholers,
it affected his brain a bit...
should we give him a week's time to recouperate and catch up?
;-)))

not no




but





FUCK NO!


heh heh
spaz

Uhm, last time I checked, when you publish a book, you are not made to defend it in order to get it published. When you present a degree seeking dissertation or thesis, yes, you will be made to defend it.

Anyone can be published. I bet even your retarded ass could get something published.

you struggle a lot in life dont you?



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 08:54 AM

No. Please, I love this shit. Keep going.

I will have to go to class soon though.



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 08:51 AM

Uhm, last time I checked, when you publish a book, you are not made to defend it in order to get it published. When you present a dissertation or thesis, yes, you will be made to defend it.

Anyone can be published. I bet even your retarded ass could get something published.

you struggle a lot in life dont you?[/b][/quote]
I so truely want to respect you Labret, honest to god I do. You would probably be surprised the issues you and I would somewhat agree on. But the way you stoop to name calling to.............to whut? make your point. It really hurts your credibility as an intelligent individual with something to add.
and if you dont care to add anything or educate, then what exactly is the point of your being here or on any webmaster board bro?


spaz

I so truely want to respect you Labret, honest to god I do. You would probably be surprised the issues you and I would somewhat agree on. But the way you stoop to name calling to.............to whut? make your point. It really hurts your credibility as an intelligent individual with something to add.
and if you dont care to add anything or educate, then what exactly is the point of your being here or on any webmaster board bro?


spaz[/b][/quote]

Sorta like "Labret... you're an ignorant little bitch".

I am not here for your respect, nor do I want it.

No. Please, I love this shit. Keep going.

I will have to go to class soon though.[/b][/quote]
I know you like it
;-))))

oh...and welcome to Oprano once again
;-)))

you'll miss us dearly in Ireland
;-)))

This has been covered so many damn times.

In case you didnt notice, this is how it works.

Topic starts.

I make statement.

Unwashed uneducated masses come running out of the woodwork to take jabs.

Its fine, its how I like it.

Serge likes impressions, I like schooling idiots and humiliating them in front of their peers. Its a nice trade.

he is stealing my act on GFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pure academia PLAGIAT! too bad yuo have nothing to promote
;-))))

I know you like it
;-))))

oh...and welcome to Oprano once again
;-)))

you'll miss us dearly in Ireland
;-)))[/b][/quote]

I forgot they only have the internet in the USA.

Has anyone here read the Stephen King series "The Dark Tower"?

Labret's intellect reminds me a little of Blaine the Mono


That's not an insult and you'll know that if you've read the books - but it is a key

Damn Buffy, all that google work for nothing.

so............ what about those USSR vintage statistics?

you humiliated everybody all right
;-))))

Pick me, pick me!! :bjump:

I would release all those who committed victimless drug crimes (and I include those who sell drugs - I don't consider people who make a conscious decision to buy drugs as "victims") and harsher punishments for those who rape and/or kill. And yes, my harsher punishments would help alleviate the prison population problems. :awinky:[/b][/quote]
Same here.

and as a traveller with Experience 50 times bigger than yours-
if you gonna travel to piss on Oprano-
don't leave your room
;-)))

Sorta like "Labret... you're an ignorant little bitch".

I am not here for your respect, nor do I want it.[/b][/quote]
your funny scooter. You dont want respect. Your screaming and crying for it at every possible chance
I an almost hear your bruised ID crying out for it.
"please see me as intelligent."
"please respect my educaton."
"please oh please god! let them take me seriously."
Unfortunately, until some teacher TELLS you that your best heard whispering, and that using vulgarities in a debate makes you look weak, well I guess you wont learn.
carry on scooter, ya make a lot of people giggle

spaz

spaz, intellectuals are ABOVE all that
;-)))
they are not humans, you know, they are Volcans
;-))))

Dont steal my words. Scooter is mine.

Spaz, I have been doing this shit on boards non stop since BBS days, I am glad you feel special and think I want your approval.

The very last people I want or need recognition from is a board load of psuedo-pornographers. What could it possibly achieve? I dont do business here. I dont go to IAs or any regional cons. I am personal friends with nobody on here. Why in gods name do you think I want and need your love and approval? The only people I care about are the ones that hold my paper.

I wonder how you got a nick with Spaz in it.



Last edited by [Labret] at Dec 2 2003, 09:10 AM

I think it is you who desperately wants to be seen as intelligent. As well as Buff, Vick, blah blah blah.

Labret, I can only say ONE thing...if you stick around for another 10 years,
you MIGHT become "just like Serge"
;-))))))

I do see myself in you, which probably explains so much affection
;-))))

you came to the right place, we'll shape you well and you be ready for the "newest generation" of GFYers who go to the kindergarden now
;-))))

wonder no more
'spaz' is a shortened version of newbiespaz from way back in my..........lets called the exploitive days, when i was surrounded by the Elite I would always ask questions, dozens of them at a time. Hungry to learn what they knew. They answered only because
1)I did not repeat the question, but would rather seek clarification
2)Showed them that I applied their answers to tasks at hand
I was/am a spaz because when i see the chance to learn from someone I jump on it and beat them to death with questions.
I wear the nick spaz with pride bro.
Do I think I am special? Mom said I was. Do I think I am special to you? Why yes I do because I disappointed you when I stated (correctly I might add) that I 'owned' you heh heh. If you care not then how could I possibly have illicited an emotion like disappointment? Hum, curious

and scooter.....................I ENJOYED that word and shall use it at my liesure thank you very much slappy


spaz

yeap, those fucking ignoramuses, intellectual wanna bees...
how dare they not to beleive the OFFICIAL USSR VINTAGE STATISTICS????????
;-0))))

Uhm, last time I checked, when you publish a book, you are not made to defend it in order to get it published. When you present a degree seeking dissertation or thesis, yes, you will be made to defend it.

Anyone can be published. I bet even your retarded ass could get something published.

you struggle a lot in life dont you?[/b][/quote]
So now you're saying academics just might be frauds after all, just not in the classroom or when on a panel to review a dipshit like you?

I bet you're one of the 15 people who believed Bill Clinton when he said he tried pot a few times but didn't inhale.

You lost. But I hope you know why you lost. You didn't lose because the leftism is just wrong (it is, but that's not why you lost).

You lost because you're an ignorant little bitch who thinks a masters in sociology means something.

ahhhh, your wrong there. I have said numerous times. I am one of your fat lazy high school grad Americans. I desire to be seen as I am no pretense, no BS. What you see here is what you get. I am goofy as hell most times, but quite capable of carrying on a descent conversation if the situation calls for it
complete with no personal attacks or name calling


spaz