Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 817326)

I am in the market to purchase a weapon for protection I was thinking of getting a Ruger mark III .22 calibur. I am use to firing rifles; m14, m16, and other assault rifles, I have fired the glock 45 and it had a kick to it, but I was very accurate with it, just not a good feel for my size! Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ (Post 817324)

There's an argument for arming every American. Why don't Israeli Airlines get Hijacked? Armed air Marshals. Or don't you think police should have guns, either?

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 817350)

You'll all be happy to know that those of us in Georgia with concealed weapons permits can now pack our heaters in restaurants that serve alcohol, on public transit and in state parks.

Pity the poor bastard that tries to rape me or gonzo while out hiking now.

Originally Posted by bluemoney (Post 817333)

Taurus Model 22 .22LR Pistol in Nickel with Gold Accents and Pink Mother of Pearl Grips Special Edition

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/tamo222piinn1.html

It's "purddy too"

Originally Posted by Nymph (Post 817354)

...My husband had to escort me quickly away from him before I bitch slapped him.

Originally Posted by Nymph (Post 817354)

That reminds me of the time I went to the gun show in Dayton with my husband. A man comes up to us looks at me, and says here's a nice little gun for a little lady...it was a 22.

My husband had to escort me quickly away from him before I bitch slapped him.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817358)

Wouldn't that be a good time to pull out your .22 and prove it is effective?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817358)

Wouldn't that be a good time to pull out your .22 and prove it is effective?

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 817360)

C'mon now, I know you don't really think most people in that situation would even consider that an option.

Besides, a good bitch-slapping is far more embarrassing making it much more likely that the life lesson will be remembered.

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817362)

If the gun is present, there is potential for it's use. If there are no guns present, there is no chance they will get used (obviously!).

Originally Posted by Nymph (Post 817361)

I don't have a 22, my gun is a 357, and I don't pack it with me. You are generalizing about me just like that small minded little man did.

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 817350)

Pity the poor bastard that tries to rape me or gonzo while out hiking now.

Originally Posted by bluemoney (Post 817364)

So lets see . . . you like porn & firearms. If like watching the NFL you will be on my "too good to be true" list. Oh yeah, and you will make my penis hard.


PS. I only suggested a .22 for "Babycakes" because that's what she seemed to be in the market for.

Originally Posted by Nymph (Post 817367)

Can we switch NFL for Nascar? Don't forget, I like to cook too ;)

Originally Posted by bluemoney (Post 817369)

:boohoo:Damn, so close!

I still :inlove: you :wub:

Originally Posted by helix (Post 817372)

Interesting statistics courtesy of the Public Health Agency Canada

http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/t...F4F805283D.jpg

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 817363)

Drunk drivers kill far more people than handguns, but I don't see anyone seriously trying to ban the sale of cars or alcohol. Your arguments simply don't hold up.

Since I know you'll ask, here are some hard numbers. 2005 was the most recent year that I could find National numbers for both without wasting a ton of time.

Alcohol related auto fatalities - 16,885 (source - CDC)
Handgun related homicides - 8,478 (source - DOJ)

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817352)

just hope like hell that the guy having the 4 martini lunch next to you isn't packing and pissed off about your table manners.

Originally Posted by bluemoney (Post 817333)

Taurus Model 22 .22LR Pistol in Nickel with Gold Accents and Pink Mother of Pearl Grips Special Edition

http://www.hyattgunstore.com/tamo222piinn1.html

It's "purddy too"

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 817386)

He probably isnt.
He drinks martinis...

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817388)

He probably has the girly .22 with the pink handles in his bra.

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 817418)

88% of statistics are made up.

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ (Post 817258)

You are such an idiot. And once again, trying to draw attention away from the issue at hand. The only reason you have "peace," anywhere in the world, is because "Guys like us," are willing to step up when you pussies won't.
How do you make "peace" with a Hitler? With a Saddam Hussein? With a North Korea? With a Khmr Rouge? How did those countries feel when the Iron curtain closed over them? How is "peace" working out for Darfur?
How do people like you stand by and watch that shit, speaking "peace?"
Makes my blood boil. I have ZERO tolerance for rape, murder, and worse of the women and children of the world. If it were up to me, the marines would have already landed. Following a surgical strike of the entire political power structure. Argue your "peace" to those people, pal. All your mealy mouth "sanctions," and "niceties" hasn't done much, now has it? How many have to be tortured and killed?

You live in the shadow of our protection. But for it, you would have been "subjected" long ago. You can squawk about it all you want. We don't expect you to thank us for it. Hell, we don't even expect you to shut up about it. But don't ever imagine we don't all know what the real score is.

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 817419)

90% of all statistics can be made to say absolutely anything, 50% of the time.

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 817423)

The only reason your gas isn't double the price is because of NAFTA and I fucking hate that. Fortunately water is not protected by NAFTA, and that is way more valuable than oil. Then whatcha gonno do, loudmouth?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817426)

I suspect that is when the right to bear arms will turn into the right to invade Canada.

Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 817326)

I am in the market to purchase a weapon for protection I was thinking of getting a Ruger mark III .22 calibur. I am use to firing rifles; m14, m16, and other assault rifles, I have fired the glock 45 and it had a kick to it, but I was very accurate with it, just not a good feel for my size! Any suggestions?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817342)

Back to junior high debate club time. I won't answer this because it is totally meaningless. The need or want for a police office to be armed in no way bolsters the idea that everyone walking down the street should be armed. That would just take us back to the wild west where the local sheriff and the local undertaker were the two busiest people in almost any town. Actually, I think parts of the US are already there.

Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 817374)

Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

............................ Homicide ... Suicide ... Other (inc Accident)

USA (2001) ............... 3.98 ........ 5.92 ..... 0.36
Italy (1997) .............. 0.81 ........ 1.1 ....... 0.07
Switzerland (1998) ..... 0.50 ........ 5.8 ....... 0.10
Canada (2002) ........... 0.4 ......... 2.0 ....... 0.04
Finland (2003) ........... 0.35 ........ 4.45 ...... 0.10
Australia (2001) ......... 0.24 ........ 1.34 ..... 0.10
France (2001) ........... 0.21 ......... 3.4 ...... 0.49
England/Wales (2002) . 0.15 ......... 0.2 ...... 0.03
Scotland (2002) ......... 0.06 ......... 0.2 ...... 0.02
Japan (2002) ............. 0.02 ......... 0.04 ..... 0

Data taken from Cukier and Sidel (2006) The Global Gun Epidemic. Praeger Security International. Westport.


I just love how the statistcs show just how well gun ownership protects you from harm in the US! So keep on carrying as the odds that you will get shot are 10 times higher for you than for me :)

Darwin really was right!

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817385)

Sorry Toby, but when you can explain to me how many people got to work driving their guns or how many people picked up a girl in a bar because they drank their guns or whatnot, this argument is ALWAYS a non-starter.

It gets back to my point: Guns have two purposes, kill or threaten to kill. 100% of the use of guns is to inflict pain and suffering. 99.99% of all miles driving in a car (and 99% of all people who have a drink) aren't killers or threatening to kill anyone.

it is the same worn out logic as to knives, axes, pens, rope, and about a million other things that can use used to kill someone. The point isn't that they can kill, because all you need to kill are your fists (let's cut everyone's hands off!). The point is that all of those items have good and valid uses that don't involve killing other people.

NRA member?

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 817423)

Well we were there first trying to kill that mother fucker while "you" were making money out of the whole thing. It was only when you got your ass pricked at pearl, did you dare to jump in. We were getting killed. You were dancing to Glen Miller. So shut the fuck up, cracker. And no we do not live under your umbrella of protection, we live under the threat of retribution by those who would fuck you up. Just remember when you guys were so scared on 9/11 you would have let all your airliners crash and burn, just in case....we saved their American asses. Or did that thought escape you. Don't fuck with your friends and don't try and bully them or they may turn and bite you on the bum. Fucking ignorant wanker. Learn your place in the world and deal with it. You are a dying breed and for very good reason.
The only reason your gas isn't double the price is because of NAFTA and I fucking hate that. Fortunately water is not protected by NAFTA, and that is way more valuable than oil. Then whatcha gonno do, loudmouth?

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 817426)

I suspect that is when the right to bear arms will turn into the right to invade Canada.