Slav - it cost them more to send that check :awinky:

Hey Ant -

We were newbies together on CONDOM so I can definitely vouch for you NOT back-dating. lol Before I found CONDOM I too tried joining YNOT (like Nick) but was told that I was "too much of a newbie" and wasn't allowed in. So I fiddled around with free sites for awhile until I met this guy named Jimmer who told me I could learn to make more $$$ at this place called CONDOM. I took a peek, but never posted. Then the owner of the freehost that all my sites were on (yes, I was a free host warrior until '99 even - lol) sent out an email about CONDOM as well. I figured I'd better give it a try.

The first show I attended was the Miami ia2000 (Nick made me go - thanks Nick! :agrin: ) and that's where I met most of the people I still work with today. I wish I would have attended the ladies' luncheon, but I had been mis-informed... someone told me it was a male-bashing feminist group (yes, it was the New Jersey speedbump who told me - he started brainwashing me even back then), so I skipped it. I now read on Oprano every now and again that women I *wish* I had known longer were in attendance. Pisses me off at that missed opportunity to have met them YEARS earlier.

But to answer your question - YES.. people DO backdate when they started. I was shocked at how many people are now jumping on the pre-2k webmaster thing (Gonzo, didn't you start that one?) trying to say they started in the 90's... when I know damned well that they didn't. I'm not THAT old and my memory's not THAT bad... there's working under the radar and then there's just not being there at all. lol

:rolleyes:

Ron 1:1

In the beginning R-n created the telephone lines and the Internet. 2 And the internet was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of AOL. And the Spirit of R-n moved upon the net. 3 And R-n said, Let there be CE: and there was CE. 4 And R-n saw the hits,and saw that it was good: and R-n divided Netpond from ANS. 5 And R-n called the light Fast Cash, and the darkness he called Xpics.

Israel and Palestinians declare cease-fire. Again. [/b][/quote]
hahaha, do not try to bring my personal life into this ;)

poop? :unsure:

ahahahhahahhahahahahahahahhahaha

BTW... February 1996... started on 128K pipe from a Internet Cafe
Got listed on PK 5 days after I started, and immediately got 2-3K a day.
Cafe kicked me off their system when their own homepage would take
30 mins to load... :rolleyes:

Went to the second largest ISP in Buffalo, and immediately accounted
for 10% of their total bandwidth... They would quietly show my site
to corporate clients, who refused to believe it was possible to push
1.5 Gigs a day... :lol:

You can't really trust the waybackmachine nor whois as to when someone started in this business. The waybackmachine has me starting in December of 96. Whois shows my first domain in July of 96. But, I actually had JamesandVictoria up on my isp account in February of 96. I suppose if you started after that, the waybackmachine would be kind of accurate.

JIM !

How the fuck are you and Vickie?

BTW... my perfect record continues: once again, the Bills did not win the Super Bowl... :P

Hey Buddy :)
We are doing well. We had a superbowl party at Greenguys. Damn, can they throw a 3 day party :)

Been to a couple of those at Greenie's myself... :okthumb:

Slav - it cost them more to send that check :awinky: [/b][/quote]
should i have saved the envelope ?

hey xpics overpaid until they stopped paying, i made some good money with them:)

I have an easy way of knowing when I started. I left the Air Force the first week ok November '96 and had my first site up the same week. Hit the jackpot with Yahoo on day 2 and had my first $10k check within 2 weeks of leaving the Military. Damn I rode that Yahoo listing like a sloppy slut.

MissEve - Remember when you, KC, and I got the C&D for selling the Pam & Tommy videos sometime in early '98. I know I changed my drawers that day.

Vick, I remember meeting you in Vegas in jan '98 along with Claudia. Was dealing with Tad a lot back then.

Grimm - Xpics was so bad about overpaying. I had someone call me up one day wanting to prepay $20k for a couple weeks traffic. Of course I said OK. After the 2 weeks they told me the traffic hadn't performed as well as they had expected and they didn't want to renew the deal. A few hours later a different Xpics rep called me saying they had just found my site and wanted to pay $25k for 2 weeks. Gotta love sales reps :)

Anyone remember the hotteen.com project? A dozen or so webmasters joined together and used the site to mix and grow traffic. Was a very successful project. Back when the TTS toplist script was king. Before TTS I used a script that Tom at BlueGravity built. Was better than using MKstats like I did for the first few months. Running a toplist by hand sucked but made a ton of $ until I found a way to automate it. Getting a script to run my toplists was like living in the dark all your life and someone flipping a lite on one day. Damn, that was a long time ago.

should i have saved the envelope ? [/b][/quote]
Best I can do there is a Jan 97 check for .30 Slav...
(a couple of .90 cent checks too)

I have a Sergey check from a bet from 1998 too
:D

I thought I had an earlier check from some canadian group too that my bank couldn't cash for some reason.

Can't remember. Was that the guy with the nickname "Catholic" something? [/b][/quote]
that was Timon I believe

Damn, I was a real idiot back in the good old days... :(

I bought my first domain on March 17, 1997. I didn't even know how to copy and paste, so my first sponsor (Websplash at 1 cent per click) took me about two hours to write down and add to my site with notepad. hahaha

With that in mind, I had a friend who had a site listed on Persian Kitty. He was making $1500 a month, and since that was what I took home from the cabinet shop I thought that would be great. I tried for nine months to get listed on Persian Kitty, then when I finally did I put up so many banners I got kicked off.

Someone told me about YNOT, so I went there and read these crazy arguments between two guys. Serge and Viper. I wasn't going to waste my time watching them argue, so I went and started trading links with people. Who knew that was the golden age of YNOT... My site had NO stats, so I had no idea where my traffic came from, and thus I no idea how to get traffic. I am the Rocky Balboa of webmasters though, and knew their had to be a major piece of the puzzle I was missing... (can you say, understatement? LOL)

At one point, Snoops and 12 clicks took pity on me and explained to me what this game was really about. A few Yahoo listings later and I was making more than I ever dreamed possible for doing so little. :)

Later on down the road I met Sweet T and he offered me a job. I kept my sites going on the side, knowing that "this could never last," and moved to Atlanta. I've been here ever since.

The sites are just about dead now, but things have always been good with NatNet. I've learned a lot and had a great time... oh, and I didn't blow any of that Yahoo cash, except some on my yard. LOLOL

Hey Fold! Hit me up, Annie is wanting to come visit you.
http://www.crazytees.com/zebra/annie.jpg

Hit it right on the head, what the hell did they care, they were getting 50 dollars a signup with a year retention because nobody could cancel! I almost felt sorry enough to call them up and say, umm... your last check isnt used up, then i surfed the sites and said "fuck it" LOL.


How you been Zebra:)

so thats the elusive Annie

sweet........

Fold:)

grimm :D

I wouldn't be Gonzo!! heh heh. I got my first computer and internet connection in 96 (14.4 wow was it blazing fast!!). Surfed porn till my eyes crossed in late 97 and started promoting someones sites, opened my first member ssite in 98 and been keeping it up and running and a few others and doing odd jobs for people ever since then.
I used to have time for boards but no interest
The I had interest in boards but didn't know where to start
Now I dont have time for boards but see their value!
Not having time is a standard cop out for not caring enough to participate, but i swear to god. I just don't have the time any more. maybe in a few months *knock on wood* but just not now. Also, Gonzo, bro, I sent you a message over ICQ a couple of weeks ago about my never using that program again, and switching to yahoo messenger for ease of use and convience. :D


spaz

I started my first website in 1994 and created my first search engine that same year while I was attending Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. In 1995 I was hired by Quote.com and in 1996 was included in a cover story in US News. Was also mentioned in Money, Wall St Journal, plus dozens of other magazines and newspapers. We were the first to start online quotes and most of the major brokerage firms used our system. I retired from the online financial industry in 1998 when Quote.com was sold to Lycos and started my own web development company, which I later sold in 2002. I then started in this industry.

grimm :D [/b][/quote]
ohhhhhhhhhhh i dont know:)

IMPRESSIVE!!!

ohhhhhhhhhhh i dont know:) [/b][/quote]
i got a guy on the other line that needs a set of whitewalls
:agrin:

Wanna manage the Indians?

lol:)