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JR 12-02-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 03:09 PM
Slavdog, that's not fair!

I have never stalked a soul in my life. Mitnick is the one with the reputation of stalking people. Don't buy Mitnick's book. Pick up a copy of "Takedown," by John Markoff. Read about Mitnick's stalking.

stalker

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 06:05 PM

I am out of here...you guys just using the red cloth on the bull!
;-)))

confucy 12-02-2003 06:08 PM

Serge, do you really want me to visit the guys on the political thread?

I think they will laugh me out of the conversation. :P

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 06:16 PM
Serge, do you really want me to visit the guys on the political thread?

I think they will laugh me out of the conversation. :P

I'll stand by you...if you refrain from using the word Mitnick in there
;-)))

confucy 12-02-2003 06:16 PM

But you are asking me to answer a *M* political question, and I know the answer. May I use *M* to represent the person in my avatar?

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 06:24 PM
But you are asking me to answer a *M* political question, and I know the answer. May I use *M* to represent the person in my avatar?
of coursae you ca!
I knowe better than tell you what to do and not to do
;-)))

gonzo 12-02-2003 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg@Dec 2 2003, 05:16 PM
Confusy, tell us about this site
http://www.babe.net/giveup/giveup.html

Uh oh...

sarettah 12-02-2003 06:46 PM

Confucy Pics ???

(I know these have been posted before, but I just love this chick :))


First One
Next One
Next One
Last One



:yowsa:

sarettah 12-02-2003 06:48 PM

Our Hero......... :yowsa:

http://babe.net/kevinlogo.jpg

sarettah 12-02-2003 06:49 PM

Confucy... Your site ???

http://babe.net/kimbanner1.jpg

sarettah 12-02-2003 06:51 PM

Or could this be Confucy ?

hackergirl

slavdogg 12-02-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 06:09 PM
Slavdog, that's not fair!

I have never stalked a soul in my life. Mitnick is the one with the reputation of stalking people. Don't buy Mitnick's book. Pick up a copy of "Takedown," by John Markoff. Read about Mitnick's stalking.

ankle biter

confucy 12-02-2003 07:05 PM

Sarettah, I really like Mitnick Man. I was just learning to use PhotoShop, and a friend helped me put this together. I was so proud of it. I sent Kevin a b&w picture of it, and he was unimpressed.

Those were the good days...the happy days. Not all the times were bad. There some really funny productive days that I will always remember.

JR would have been a valuable asset back then when we were putting together the Mitnick website and the Mitnick pamphlets and the Mitnick banners, t-shirts, and stuff to sell to raise money for the Mitnick Defense Fund.

I don't know why Mitnick was so scared of my book. Back then, it was a favorable Mitnick book. Suddenly, the tides changed. Hate and Anger took over! :(

sarettah 12-02-2003 07:09 PM

Know whats a crime Confucy....

That you have a great domain name in babe.net and you are doing absolutely nothing with it :headwall: :headwall: :headwall:

Damn lady, you need to build that sucker up.....

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 07:12 PM

yeah not like Babenet's gonna sue anyone!

hahah

sarettah 12-02-2003 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 07:20 PM
yeah not like Babenet's gonna sue anyone!

hahah

They have already been down that road.....

and I believe Confucy won... Not sure about it though....

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah+Dec 2 2003, 04:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Dec 2 2003, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 07:20 PM
yeah not like Babenet's gonna sue anyone!

hahah

They have already been down that road.....

and I believe Confucy won... Not sure about it though....[/b][/quote]
Confucy has been sued by Babenet?

This is getting good.

sarettah 12-02-2003 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 07:23 PM
Confucy has been sued by Babenet?

This is getting good.

I am not sure of all the details...

I believe they wanted her to give up the domain name etc....

I am sure that she will elaborate for us though....

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah+Dec 2 2003, 04:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Dec 2 2003, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 07:23 PM
Confucy has been sued by Babenet?

This is getting good.

I am not sure of all the details...

I believe they wanted her to give up the domain name etc....

I am sure that she will elaborate for us though....[/b][/quote]
Hope so.

Babenet is a local company that I have known of for YEARS.

Have known many people that worked for them :awinky:

Im going to have to run an errand shortly, but yes, please fill us in.

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Dec 2 2003, 07:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Dec 2 2003, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -sarettah@Dec 2 2003, 04:21 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX
Quote:

@Dec 2 2003, 07:20 PM
yeah not like Babenet's gonna sue anyone!

hahah


They have already been down that road.....

and I believe Confucy won... Not sure about it though....

Confucy has been sued by Babenet?

This is getting good.[/b][/quote]
they wanted but...couldn't find her
;-))

Serge wasn't in Infoirmation business at that time
;-))

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 2 2003, 04:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 2 2003, 04:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 07:23 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by -sarettah@Dec 2 2003, 04:21 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX

Quote:

Quote:

@Dec 2 2003, 07:20 PM
yeah not like Babenet's gonna sue anyone!

hahah


They have already been down that road.....

and I believe Confucy won... Not sure about it though....


Confucy has been sued by Babenet?

This is getting good.

they wanted but...couldn't find her
;-))

Serge wasn't in Infoirmation business at that time
;-))[/b][/quote]
:ph34r:

JR 12-02-2003 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 04:13 PM
Hate and Anger took over! :(
shocking.

and you hide it so well.

confucy 12-02-2003 07:59 PM

Fletch, this is the first of many letters/faxes back and forth between my attorney and babenet.com Gould was a pretty nice guy in the beginning. His big offer to me was free email and content in return for my babe.net domain name. I won! I still have my name. Even back then, babenet.com was spamming the hell out of me and others. Because they wouldn't stop after my many requests, I took the matter into my own hands. I did get their attention. My attorney was too much for them. They walked away and left me alone.

ELAINE R. ROSEN
ATTORNEY AT LAW
4658 El Camino Corto
La Canada, California 91011
(818) 790-0952

October 29, 1998

Mr. Clark Garen
Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 1790
Palm Springs, California 92263

Dear Mr. Garen:

I represent BabeNet Ltd., a registered California corporation.

BabeNet has been a significant presence on the Internet since 1995, establishing itself as a premier
provider of adult entertainment via the World Wide Web. The “BabeNet” trademark and corporate name is
well known in the industry and has acquired strong name recognition over the years.

Some months ago it came to the attention of my client that Kimberly Tracey had registered the
domain name “BABE.NET” with Internic. At her site, Ms. Tracey provides links to a number of sexually
explicit internet sites. As might be expected, consumers of on-line adult entertainment ultimately become
confused as to the origin of the Web sites. Consequently, people trying to communicate with my client
have inadvertently contacted Ms. Tracey.

In an effort to resolve the issue of domain name confusion Robert Gould, from BabeNet had, until
recently, been communicating directly with Ms. Tracey. I have taken special note that in her email to Mr.
Gould dated Monday, October 5, 1998, Ms. Tracey admits that her sister, acting as her agent, sent out a
message to some of the people who were allegedly trying to contact my client. The message was a falsified
debt collection letter, which requested a payment be made to BabeNet in the amount of $95.98. In addition
to being unlawful, the letter was rude and accusatory and placed my client in a false light which will
ultimately result in irreparable harm to the reputation of BabeNet Ltd.

It is obvious that BabeNet cannot tolerate Ms. Tracey’s continuing infringement of the BabeNet
trademark. While Ms. Tracy has “generously” offered to sell my client her domain name for the sum of
one half million dollars, we must respectfully decline. Instead, BabeNet is demanding that Ms. Tracey
immediately cease and desist her use of the term BABE.NET, which is confusingly similar to my client’s
trademark and corporate name.

Since this letter is being sent to your Post Office Box (the address supplied to BabeNet by Ms.
Tracey) I am unable to send it certified, with a requested return receipt. Therefore, I would appreciate your
advising me of your receipt via telephone or facsimile. My phone number is (818) 718.0366. My fax
number is (818) 700.2835.

I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible regarding this matter.

Sincerely,


Elaine R. Rosen

cc: Robert Gould

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 08:05 PM

and I wonder....how come they never found Kimberly Tracey???

is it possibble that Kmberley Trace just doesn't exist???

The Social Security Administration has NOBODY in theiur data base with this name living in California and authorized to work in USA
;-)))

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 08:07 PM

God is my witness, I was trying to employ Kimberly Tracey to work for SSS, Inc
;-)))

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:09 PM

Funny, Rob Gould is the only Babenet name they mention.

Babenet never liked the real names to be involved.

hehehe





Last edited by Fletch XXX at Dec 2 2003, 05:17 PM

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:12 PM

Confucy, sounds to me like Rob was trying to get control of it behind other peoples back if you ask me.

confucy 12-02-2003 08:13 PM

Serge, I....confucy aka Kimberly was abducted by aliens under the direction of Art Bell. If you listened to his show on Sunday, you would understand. Let me give you a little clue....Tracey is my married name.

GO DARCI GO! Check those data bases for every Kimberly in existence! You can do it, geeky....GO GO GO GO GO :rokk:

Peaches 12-02-2003 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 09:17 PM
Babenet never liked the real names to be involved.

hehehe

Neither does Confucy unless they belong to someone other than herself. :P

If you're still friendly with the Babenet crew, you might want to give them a heads up on the true identity of "Kimberly Tracey" - I'm sure Geekgirl could help you out. :)

cherrylula 12-02-2003 08:19 PM

Fuck babenet, bunch of scumbags. Gould included.

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches+Dec 2 2003, 05:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Dec 2 2003, 05:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 09:17 PM
Babenet never liked the real names to be involved.

hehehe

Neither does Confucy unless they belong to someone other than herself. :P

If you're still friendly with the Babenet crew, you might want to give them a heads up on the true identity of "Kimberly Tracey" - I'm sure Geekgirl could help you out. :)[/b][/quote]
I think you misunderstood.

Im talking about partners, and who really owns what etc.

Kinda like having a chubby mascot guy that takes all the theat while the deal spnning money holders hide in the shadows.

I dont sell people out to corporations.

And Babenet is dead dear.

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches@Dec 2 2003, 05:25 PM


If you're still friendly with the Babenet crew, you might want to give them a heads up on the true identity of "Kimberly Tracey" - I'm sure Geekgirl could help you out. :)

I know people personally that have sat with Rob Gould and discussed ideas, and had him stab them in the back and launch the project on his own.

The day I help that chubby fuck is the day i lose all pride in revenge.

I wont talk too much about any of this though.

:awinky:



Last edited by Fletch XXX at Dec 2 2003, 05:31 PM

confucy 12-02-2003 08:23 PM

Fletch, babenet.com also approached babe.com. Babenet.com wanted both the babe.net and the babe.com names. I liked Gould. He started out being a nice guy. Then he stopped being a nice guy and went after Lew Payne, whose servers I was using. Lew told him to back off and go fuck himself.

You see, babenet.com was sending out spam giving my name, babe.net as the return address. People were emailing me, threatening me, and calling me names. I thought, what the fuck is happening? Babenet.com's office was in the valley, so I gave them a call and asked for an explanation. They never got back to me. I finally got in touch with Rob Gould, but he also ignored me. Sometimes you have to say, *I'm not going to take it anymore!*

See, I had a little free pornsite back in '98. That's how I started out, doing freesites. I'm a porn webmaster, Serge! I just choose to keep my sites off the boards.

Peaches 12-02-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX@Dec 2 2003, 09:27 PM
I think you misunderstood.

Im talking about partners, and who really owns what etc.

Kinda like having a chubby mascot guy that takes all the theat while the deal spnning money holders hide in the shadows.

I dont sell people out to corporations.

And Babenet is dead dear.

That happens in large number of corporations, adult and non-adult. Many of the restaurants and bars in Atlanta are owned by people whose name you will never hear - they don't want the press.

When I was working for an ATT Reseller one of the owners was into, shall we say, "shadier businesses". My favorite was when representatives of one of the largest Baptist Churches in the south came in to work out a money laundering deal. :P

It happens probably a LOT more than you're aware of and especially in this business, I can see why people would want a front man. :) I see nothing wrong with it.

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 08:25 PM

I guess I am one of the few who dealt with Gould and left him wondering..
"how the fuck did it happen"?
;-))

...but he never bought traffic froim me again
;_)))

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 05:31 PM
I liked Gould.
Gould is a pieve of shit.

Period.

I know enough about him, how he conducted business, people he fucked over, and how he acts when his wife wasnt around.

Scum is too good of a word.

Fletch XXX 12-02-2003 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches@Dec 2 2003, 05:32 PM


It happens probably a LOT more than you're aware of and especially in this business

What MAKES you assume such things?

Here I am telling you about this, and youre trying to tell me I dont know about it.

funny.

Anyhow....

Winetalk.com 12-02-2003 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by confucy@Dec 2 2003, 08:31 PM
I'm a porn webmaster, Serge! I just choose to keep my sites off the boards.
I know...I saw your HTML skills the other day when you put banner in your sig
;-))))

confucy 12-02-2003 08:31 PM

Serge, how much do you need to know to be a webmaster?

Some people have many skills and are broke. I have never claimed to be a technical wizard. Plus, if I have trouble with my sig line, you will help me, won't ya?????????? :okthumb:

Peaches 12-02-2003 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX+Dec 2 2003, 09:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fletch XXX @ Dec 2 2003, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Peaches@Dec 2 2003, 05:32 PM


It happens probably a LOT more than you're aware of and especially in this business

What MAKES you assume such things?

Here I am telling you about this, and youre trying to tell me I dont know about it.

funny.

Anyhow....[/b][/quote]
Merely basing my comments on what you posted. :) I have no idea what you know and don't know, but if you're "hehehe"ing about real names and there being a front man, or as you said, "mascot", then you must be "hehehe"ing a lot of big Adult companies. :)


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