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When I shop... If I buy something... And then a couple of days later see that the company I bought from is selling what I bought for a much lower price... I generally feel like I've been ripped off. When I feel ripped off, I generally ten to: 1. Never do business with that company again. 2. Tend to badmouth that company at every chance I get. 3. Seek revenge in some edge of the line legal fashion. But then again, thats just me.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very good question and I cannot blame you for feeling that way but this is what I do. I have customers who bought content when it was more expesive, To make those customers happy I offer them new and unreleased SoBeGirl content ( I have 200 new shoots not yet on SoBeGirl) at the same sale price or close to it. This new and unreleased contnet is better than the stuff that you can see on the SoBeGirl site. Bigger dicks, more milk, hotter girls, better lighting. But in appreciation for those customers support when prices were high I still give them the same or similar deals on new and unreleased stuff not yet available to the general public. And because this new unreleased content is so fresh I could charge more for it but I extend the special offers to that content for my return customers. To reply to your questions directly.. Number one - You are doing business with me right now and you just don't know it. Number Two - One man’s trash is another man’s treasure and, Number Three - You do that every time you post. But really, thanks for giving me the opportunity to explain that because it is a good point. As I said before, I am not selling 200 fresh hardcore amateur shoots because I am going out of business. In fact it is just the opposite. I have so much more new content to release that I am trying to make room for it. In fact, my customers know that I will always take care of them. As they buy SoBeGirl content they can be assured that as their income grows so will the content selection offered by SoBeGirl. And not just in sheer volume but in selection and variety as well. Right now I have content for sale from over 10 different producers from all over the world. Check out this selection from Hungaria. You can get 31 of these shoots for just $75 dollars. http://www.sobegirl.com/Models/hungry/h1.htm |
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Erik, you are so full of shit....
You have been exposed lying about your income. You post that you have a 40k mailing list and immediately a reference to an earlier post of you claiming a 20k mailing list is posted. And now you turn around and backstab your customers by cutting the price of your content by 40% overnight?? I'd sure be pissed if I had bought anything from you, but on the other hand people who are stupid enough to buy your tgp rubbish deserve to be fucked. |
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First of all, I didn't ask a question, I stated fact.... I couldn't care less how much you offered after the fact to fix the situation, it would not work... To offer to sell me more and therefore take more of my cash does not absolve you of having done the ripoff in the first place.... If you would rip me off once you would rip me off again.... Old saying.... "Screw me once, shame on you...screw me twice, shame on me" Number 1: As far as you doing business with me right now... You may think this is business, as in networking etc... But you are not doing business with me... I personally have not put anything new up on any of my adult domains in over 3 months... I am currently just sitting and collecting traffic, passing some to sponsors, some to friends, I have a catalog of well over 100,000 images that I have not used at all yet and I do not run paysites... I am a little free site builder who is in this to learn how it all works... I am a programmer by trade and if I make a fortune in this biz, it will be through programming (or powerball, whichever comes first) So, you will not get any content sales directly from me.... If there are idiots who will do business with you after reading your posts, well, there are idiots everywhere.... For every person that buys from you because of reading your posts here, there are at least 10 that won't because of the well earned respect they have for Mike and the other regulars on the board.... So, you gain 1 customer and lose 10 potentials.. FOREVER. If you knew what you were doing, by now, across the past few days you could have earned their respect and for each 11 you could have had 11 potentials..... What you are doing may be business, but it sure aint good business. Number two, yes, badmouthing can bring you business.... The old saying that "There is no such thing as bad publicity" can work at times.... But, in this business, with the competition getting hotter all the time and the market on a marked downslide, it is definitely better to get the good publicity then the bad...... There are a small number of folks on the net that would not do business with you on my say so alone... There are a larger number that would definitely shy away from you and have to think it through carefully on my say so... There are an even greater number that will stay away from you because of the other folks on this board telling them to stay away.... So, yes, once again, you might gain a customer or two, the GFYers who look and say "wow, you told so and so off, you must be cool" and then do business with you... There are many more who are saying"what an asshole...I think I will stay away" Number three you are totally off base on. I have not sought revenge in any way at all. I have nothing to seek revenge for. You started posting again, I decided to have a little fun. You have provided me with a small entertainment source, nothing more and nothing less. If you did something to me that I thought warranted revenge, you would know it pretty quick... I never settle for getting even...I always get way the fuck ahead.... Yes, your customers know that you "will always take care of them". They know they will always be getting screwed instead of laid.... They know that they will always be in the grey area of legality when dealing with you... They know that a 3rd party might be coming to sue them every time they buy from you... They know that they will have to keep track of how much you are charging this hour versus last hour in order to make sure they get a decent deal from you... They know that you would fuck them over in a heartbeat if it meant you could make you one more dollar at their expense.... They know you are a lying, thieving child and will expect no more from you then they would expect from a lying thieving child..... So sleep well at night sobitemegirl, go, spend your time at the beach with your blowup doll (er, I mean "Fantastic looking girlfriend"), go drive your $15,000 car that you paid $20,000 for..Go sell your $100.00 worth of content for $1200 this hour and $2000 next hour and $500 in the hour after that..... Go in perfect peace and tranquility.... But some advice... I would be changing my passwords about once an hour if I were you and I would be putting some time into locking down security on my server just a little tighter before I went out for the day.... You're gonna be needing it...... Come on back when you are ready to walk the rice paper without tearing it..... :zzz: Last edited by sarettah at Jun 8 2003, 09:17 AM |
Peaches, first of all nobody is turning me in for spamming becuase I don't spam. And let's look at those idiots that complained shall we...
One goes by the name of Prostock and he contacted me several times to buy his ugly asian girls. He contacted me first and asked for information. Brad from SinEmpire- another complainer, was one of my first customers. He has been on my list for about 3 years and just now decided to complain. Another one I know of goes by the name Jimmy3way. Same story, bought some exclusive vids from me, then when he got my email telling him of new stuff he complained. I get hundreds of emails a day and a lot of those people are surprised to find out that I send them a mail in the future about something I might think they are interested in. I have more than 50 other website affiliates I own; people opt in to those lists and then get mails too. I have several other corporations in my name not just SoBeGirl. I am providing services and products to webmasters in many different capacities from hosting, building computers, providing content, consulting and pleasure tours to excotic locations. But really, if you get a mail, from me, or anyone else for that matter, you can delete it, or unsubscribe. I know for a fact that the ones that go on boards and say moronic things have never bothered to unsubscribe. They get more mileage by crying like little babies. This Jimmy3way joker is a prime example. I went out of my way to contact him to make sure he was unsubscribe by contacting him personally. Keep in mind that this guy is an exclusive buyer of SoBeGirl. He would not respond to myICQ messages because he knows he is full of shit just like you. |
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It's easy to see why people think you're in your 20's when you're really in your 30's - it's how you ACT, now how you LOOK! :headwall: |
One more thing Sobiteme....
Just because someone asks a question or purchases something does not mean they "opted in" on your list..... If they checked a box that said "I want to receive your fucking spam all the fucking time" and gave you their email address, then that is an OPTIN.... If you send it to them without that, then it is SPAM, the fact that you give an OPTOUT option does not make it an OPTIN list.... Learn the terminology, then go bragging about what you got... :yowsa: |
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2. Being a customer is not SUBSCRIBING 3. Buying exclusive videos is not SUBSCRIBING 4. Those are called COMPLAINTS. 5. So you spam for 50 website affiliates..... and what are these other corporations and affiliate programs.... We need to know so we can avoid...er..I mean send you lots of customers... 6. allowing an OPTOUT is not an OPTIN asshole... 7. So, why didn't you just remove him from the list instead of making him go to the trouble of going through the OPTOUT process... ?? Could it be because if he doesn't OPTOUT you wont be able to mark him as OPTED IN on your 50 other lists ?? We got your number sobitemegirl... Like the song says... Don't call us, we'll call you... |
The problem with Erik is he shoots his mouth off before he thinks and gets all defensive as soon as someone says anything negative. Erik, check your icq, and yes I AM going to scream at you again.
All these content sales might seem like a great thing at first.. but they are doing a few negative things that are making this industry that much more difficult to be competative in for the webmaster. They drive the prices down for content, but the content producer, the guy who has to pay the models, cover his overhead, etc is going to make less of a profit, which is a problem... With the shit going on a lot of producers i know are barely covering overhead.. and if they don't have the money to shoot new content... well... I'm sure you can follow my logic there, it's a vicious circle. Second, all those people that got a great deal are ending up paying for shit. The content may be wonderful, but consider the NUMBER of people who bought those images. My best estimate puts the sales on those content bundles at around 300-400 sales. That means there's not just 20 or 30 people running around with the content..there are HUNDREDS. It's going to so saturate the market it's going to be less than worthless, because so many people are going to be using it. I really feel sorry for those people who bought the content beforehand, full price, because now what they paid full price for is worthless, esentially. Most good content providers will pull a set a limit on sales or reduce it's price after so many sales, to reflect the possibility of oversaturation. I know this is a policy we strictly enforce. Why? Because doing anything less is going to make the content absolutely useless to all the customers who bought it beforehand, and honestly, I wouldn't stab my customers in the back like that. I'm supposed to be giving them a useful product that they can continue to use (and recycling content is a fantastic way to continue to gain value from it). However, once it gets TOO saturated, it's only good for places like RockBottom, which, although they hold an important place and are a great resource for newbies, let's be honest. That shit is THINNER than water. Those sales are great, The guys at Clutch and Cloud9 are nice guys, but the current trends they seem to be leading in the content world are less than desirable. And the REALLY shitty thing is once people use all that content and realize JUST how saturated it is, they're going to have to come back and buy fresh stuff. Don't get me wrong, I've seen the content, it's nice as hell, and it WILL do ok until all the people that bought it start putting it up en-masse (give it a week or so more once designers start spitting stuff out for people) and realize surfers will already have seen it all. It's a good ploy for the content provider in a way, but in the end it's the webmaster who gets stuck for it. I don't think a lot of people realized how broad the implications were in the first place, but nobody thinks about it when they're out to make some quick coin. I'll give props where due, Cloud9 shot from obscurity to "fame", and have more capital now, but still. My #1 interest is the customer, that is and always will be my focus, and well, I just don't feel in my opinion the customers in this instance come out the winners. They get good content yes, cheap price, for sure, but at what cost to the market? I'm sure lots of people will be saying "Oh, she's just saying that because they're hurting her business". No, not really. People want stuff that's unsaturated at a good price, they still know where to come. And we did have a big site sale like Cloud9 and Clutch, however we limited the sale to _5_ customers and that was all. I can justify selling those sets to everyone else at their normal price because well, I didn't kill their value for myself and my customers. As for Erik, well he's just trying to make a buck, but man I am SO going to kick your ass. You have a lot to learn about dealing with PEOPLE. He and Joe resolved their differences as far as I know, and aside from the occassional embellishment and whatnot I've never known Erik to be totally dishonest. He has some nice stuff on his site. Use your own judgement, but Erik you dumb shit you lost a lot of business because of your big fat mouth. I am so gonna kick your ass. |
I tried to remove Jimmy3way but I had to look him up first in my database and all I had was his ICQ number. I don't want to send mail to people that don't want it. That does me no good. Look out of all the people that get and enjoy the SoBeGirl MegaMailer there are always going to be a few for one reason or another that don't want it. I have to deal with that in the best way possible. I have a good mailing system and I don't have to justify anything to you. All your shit about gain one customer and loose 10 you don't know shit. I get the same people all the time trashing me. It is only a hand full. I really try to focus on the many more that enjoy working with me and making money of my products. In the past when I was starting out I would be rather bothered by all the negative comments here but not anymore. I don't spam for affiliates, I own the affiliates. They are my companies but affiliates of SoBeGirl and vice-versa. You say you get my mail and you probably opted in with one of those not specifically with soBeGirl. Again, all you have to do is unsubscribe. And yes, I do think that if a customer buys from me I am entitled to let him now about updates. If he does not want to know about them he can tell me so and I will delete that email from my database.
And I take your threat of attacking my server seriously. You will be hearing from my lawyer. Thanks for letting me know you are the one that will either be doing it or instigating the ones that do it. You are even stupider than I thought |
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People who "enjoy working with Sobergirl": Erik needs your help, come and post your support for him!! |
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2. I never said I got anything from you (except a little entertainment)...Learn to read sobitemyassgirl 3. Just because yout THINK you have a right to contact them does not make it an OPTIN 4. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.... First of all if I even had a notion of attcking your server, I wouldn't threaten it here or anywhere else... Secondly, there was no threat from me in any way shape or form... It was a bit of friendly advice.... and Thirdly, bring your lawyer on man... He can contact my lawyer at "Gotti, Gambino, Lacasio and Schwarz Inc." :yowsa: btw.... Your losing it like that was such a beautiful thing to see.... Thanx :nyanya: |
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Yep, I'm just quaking in my boots here.... ohmygawdohmygawdohmygawd... whatever am I going to do.... :cryin: |
Yeah man you're screwed, it's all over now. Erik's lawyers are going to gang bang you and sell the whole set for $2000!!
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Special discount: because we sold $150k worth of sarettah content since the last post it is now $1200...
The discount is because it is selling so well.... honestly.... |
Did I tell you guys I have a 20k mailing list?
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Yeah you're all jelous because I just told you about my 40k mailing list...
and also because I have a girlfriend who has sex with me sometimes... and I have a hot little $15k red car... |
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thanx for the laugh Timon.... Do I get royalties...... ? :yowsa: btw...sobitemegirl..... this is a cut and slightly edited paste of the acceptable use policy from your isp..... xiii) Utilize the Services in any manner that might subject XXXXX to unfavorable regulatory action, subject XXXXXXX to any liability for any reason, or adversely affect XXXXXX’s public image, reputation or goodwill, including, without limitation, sending or distributing sexually explicit, hateful, vulgar, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable materials as determined by XXXXXX in its sole discretion; or You might want to consult your lawyers about that one.... running an adult site from an isp that does not explicitly state that it is ok is not usually a great move and can subject you to unexpected outages etc if someone were to complain about it... Last edited by sarettah at Jun 8 2003, 10:28 AM |
Well, lets see... it took Eric 4 days this time to lose it totally.... So, in all fairness, he is getting better....
Eric, my kudos to you... but come on back when you can last a week or two.... Practice makes perfect you know.. Go on back to your kiddie boards and play with your friends, have them play devil's advocate... Have one pretend to be serge, have one pretend to be mike, have one pretend to be Timon... When you can do 500 solid posts responding to them without threatening legal action, mentioning your car, how much money you make or how often you get laid, then come on back and we will give you a reevaluation... gratis..... btw... It is always ok to mention how big your dick is..... :yowsa: |
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Hey Sosuckmegirl.....
what did you do now ? Or is this just another whiner, complainer who's jealous of your car, girlfriend, money and life ? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...threadid=141047 |
Busted!!!!!
06-08-2003 08:05 PM amacontent Registered: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 389 Well boys and girls.. SOBE has NOTHING in writing giving him permission to sell my content. If he does, well ask him yo prove it. All scenes he has are with MY company name, ALL of it. If he produces a document it is a forgery. Check for signatures. I dont know what he is telling you Farley Higgins, but he sent me a Bogus signed contract to try and settle this out of court: He said he would pay me the money in settlement I asked for if I sent him a copy FEd Ex of a scene he lost that i did for him. Well I Fed Exed the scene to him, then he calls me next day and says deal is off. http://www.amacontent.com/pics/sobe.jpg Why would he settle if he knew he had rights to resell. And Dyna Spain, do as you please. Im offerring to re issue same license to you that he did at no extra charge. I will not fuck with people the way SOBE fucked me. BTW, thanx Mutt. __________________ Joe ICQ- 214137742 AMA Content www.amacontent.com username- member password- ama536 www.amamodels.com - models for Exclusive content info@amamodels.com |
lololololololololololol....
:yowsa: :yowsa: :yowsa: I love it :) |
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To anyone who LOVES cars this is about as hilarious as it gets :-)))[/b][/quote] and to those of us who could care less about cars ... its still hilarious :biglaugh: |
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...threadid=141183
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Spill it CJ, what do you drive??
0-60 in 5.6 seconds? That is considered fast now-a-days?? |
13 more payments and this little baby is all mine...
http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...988e0d/i-1.JPG |
DJ I think even your car does 0-60 better then 5.6 seconds!!
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Maybe if I drive it over a cliff.... :ph34r:
Everybody has cooler cars than me... :o |
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