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Hammer 08-13-2007 02:06 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 792324)
and avn hired this guy to be on a panel?

Well, they didn't hire him but someone picked him, but like Gonzo said he was a replacement.

But there were plenty panelists that AVN selected that had no business being there.

Jace 08-13-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 792330)
Lance from Xtube was too busy so he sent his waterboy.

that is nuts, there is so much talent out there when it comes to adult webmastering, I just don't get why they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel

Hammer 08-13-2007 02:38 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 792339)
that is nuts, there is so much talent out there when it comes to adult webmastering, I just don't get why they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel

Politics and bribes. ;)

gonzo 08-13-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 792343)
Politics and bribes. ;)

I have to step up for AVN on this one.
They solicit for each show and each panel speakers from an open invitation.

You have to remember AVN publishes a magazine and hosts those Internext shows. Their insight into the inner workings of this business is limited from that respect.

Weve all seen how people coming into the net side of this business are either easily swayed or confused by sig whores and people who pass themselves off as marketing geniuses that know nothing.

Spinning tunes poolside at the Hard Rock hardly qualifies anyone for marketing in this business. Those that are successful dont promote the clients they take money from but continue to promote themselves.

Jace I know youve been asked to sit on a blogging panel before.

If anyone is interested in being on a panel I suggest that you contact AVNonline and make your case. I for one wouldnt mind attending more of these from a listeners side.

Keep in mind though that people will expect your expert advice for free.
So be willing to share some of your success strategies before volunteering.

Jace 08-13-2007 03:30 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 792344)
I have to step up for AVN on this one.
They solicit for each show and each panel speakers from an open invitation.

You have to remember AVN publishes a magazine and hosts those Internext shows. Their insight into the inner workings of this business is limited from that respect.

Weve all seen how people coming into the net side of this business are either easily swayed or confused by sig whores and people who pass themselves off as marketing geniuses that know nothing.

Spinning tunes poolside at the Hard Rock hardly qualifies anyone for marketing in this business. Those that are successful dont promote the clients they take money from but continue to promote themselves.

Jace I know youve been asked to sit on a blogging panel before.

If anyone is interested in being on a panel I suggest that you contact AVNonline and make your case. I for one wouldnt mind attending more of these from a listeners side.

Keep in mind though that people will expect your expert advice for free.
So be willing to share some of your success strategies before volunteering.

well, at the time I just didn't like avn very much, and while that stands true for the most part, I now look at the joke the panels are and know there is NO WAY I would ever get up there and do it

i would however be game for a private workshop for newbies or something like that, "building traffic with blogs", I finally feel confident in my abilities to be able to handle something like that

but I won't be put on the chopping block in a "panel" setting, i see more people coming back from internext laughing at them more than anything

Hammer 08-13-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 792344)
I have to step up for AVN on this one.
They solicit for each show and each panel speakers from an open invitation.

Oh they solicit for panel speakers for each show, but that only gives them a list to pick from. How do they pick from the list once they have it? Do you think they make their choices randomly by putting the names in a hat, or do you think they actually know everyone that submits to speak and choose the ones that are most qualified, or do you think that they use some other method to pick, like which company spends the most advertising with them each year?

You can't pick good speakers by running a popularity contest.

softball 08-13-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
Do they have any panels on the fine art of pissing people off on web boards?

Hammer 08-13-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 792379)
Do they have any panels on the fine art of pissing people off on web boards?

Nah, that's too easy.

softball 08-13-2007 08:11 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 792391)
Nah, that's too easy.

It is a craft that takes years to master. It is not an easy gig. There is the ebb and the flow. The pitch and the yaw. The yin and the Yang. The bob and the weave. Oh, it may appear easy, but that is only to the uninitiated. It is a carefully crafted, stage managed performance that only a few are privy to.

Hammer 08-13-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 792396)
It is a craft that takes years to master. It is not an easy gig. There is the ebb and the flow. The pitch and the yaw. The yin and the Yang. The bob and the weave. Oh, it may appear easy, but that is only to the uninitiated. It is a carefully crafted, stage managed performance that only a few are privy to.

I guess it just seems easy to me then. It's an ability that's always just come naturally to me.

Rcourt64 08-13-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 792406)
I guess it just seems easy to me then. It's an ability that's always just come naturally to me.

it's really not that easy to piss people off on web boards.
Here's a prime example right here, Look how long it took me to get sherlock shithead to put me on ignore? and he's one of the dumb ones. its even harder with higher IQ members :rolleyes:

Jace 08-13-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 792410)
it's really not that easy to piss people off on web boards.
Here's a prime example right here, Look how long it took me to get sherlock shithead to put me on ignore? and he's one of the dumb ones. its even harder with higher IQ members :rolleyes:

I have rarely gotten pissed off from forums in the past few years, you have to really cross lines with me.....you can ask my girl, I am the most laid back person in the world, i don't get pissed about ANYTHING in real life, why would the boards be any different

there isn't any problem that can't be handled, and there is no point in getting upset, whatever happens is going to happen, hate and negativity won't solve it

softball 08-13-2007 10:54 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 792411)
I have rarely gotten pissed off from forums in the past few years, you have to really cross lines with me.....you can ask my girl, I am the most laid back person in the world, i don't get pissed about ANYTHING in real life, why would the boards be any different

there isn't any problem that can't be handled, and there is no point in getting upset, whatever happens is going to happen, hate and negativity won't solve it

And Jace, this is the first day of the rest of your life.

softball 08-13-2007 10:55 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 792406)
I guess it just seems easy to me then. It's an ability that's always just come naturally to me.

Its a gift.

Rcourt64 08-13-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Newbie......
 
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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 792419)
And Jace, this is the first day of the rest of your life.

"...the first day of the rest of your life???" :blink: WTF???
Have you been attending those AA meeting again, man?


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