Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

There are ways to evaluate the success (profitability) of a site that does not include my own affiliate sales figures or any insider information. Simply being observant over time, paying attention to lifestyle changes major purchases etc. that show up in the day to day updates on the site and in posts to boards, journals, blogs, etc.

Affiliate program promotions are always going to be the most obvious, but if you're observant you'll also see other promotional avenues being used by many of these same sites.

Are there amateur sites making big money that don't have affiliate programs? Sure there are.

Are there amateur sites making big money that do little promotion other than their affiliate program? Yes again.

Are there far more amateur sites making big money that are untilizing many promotional avenues, including an affiliate program? Yes there are.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

Well, you see, Toby. This is not necessarily bad advice. However, speaking as one who has arguably more intimate knowledge of independant website marketing, my advice was for a prudent strategy that is the least expensive and easiest route to immediate success. I will say it again. Affiliate marketing is hugely expensive and unless a new website is well funded and confident of success, not necessarily the best strategy. For instance, I buy better traffic that converts like a son of a bitch from magazines and will outperform any affiliate strategy for a fraction of the price. That is a good roi. I am not poopooing affiliate options, just suggesting that in the first instance it is not always a prudent option because of the breathtaking expense involved. And, of course, there is the obvious...why pay for it when you can get it for free option.
edit: another reason not to use affiliate marketing to launch a new site is that it can lull one into thinking that this is the answer and make you less likely to do your own legwork and set up personal business relationships.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

The first thing new sites should do, before any money is spent on promotion is use some of the "free" sources of traffic to test tours and conversions. Once the conversion ratios are acceptible, then money spent will have a far better chance of generating a nice return.

One of the biggest differences between affiliate program promotions and other paid promotional methods is the fact that affiliates aren't paid until AFTER the sale is made. Nearly all others require payment up front and you take your chances that the traffic you receive converts.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

That is true, but it still costs. You can pay me now or you can pay me later. The you can pay me later option is always the most costly. What I am talking about is free marketing like link exchanges. The mag advertising is a bargain, but not necessary to start. There is also no point in buying traffic that you can get for free. When you have exhausted your free sources, then it might be time to move on to an affiliate model.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

Are you the right person to promote anyone/thing? With your board persona exploding and burning your ass every now and then... I think... maybe not...



Everything comes with a spell checker these days, why in this new era do you still type like a tard... is it ffs?



Hahahahah silly and old are not any of the words I've heard/used/been led to understand you to be... cockend came up once or twice. :)

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

Ok, my first post on Oprano in a year. Here's my view, from what's happening with my clients now:

- www.brookeskye.com did over 200 joins per day with Mayors Money and did that for over 6 months, retention is great because the girl is on her cam everytime we shoot and everyday, most of the day...the numbers are off the chain.

- www.katiekaos.com is new and doing 30-40 joins a day and she's a bitch that won't do anything, just unique content we shot and a natural redhead

we've shot other solo sites for the big players...some of these girls are cute, hot, awesome, and they just don't sell...still haven't figured it other, other than getting enough webmasters to promote them and giving them the tools to make it happen

We have 3 hotties staying at our house now shooting for pornpayouts.com that should do well. The girls are great, the content is high definition, the team include Janell who used to be with topbucks that will be promoting them. But again, even though I think all 3 girls are awesome, I bet only 1 of the 3 will get 75% of the signups...so many variables.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

Trev, you know every time I read your posts, I think of what a freeking loser you are/were. Stuck in some kind of alternate reality time warp where Coquitlam is something you aspire to. You are northern boy through and through. Too skinny to be wide (of course I mean that figuratively) but with Del Boy dreams. You ain't east end. You ain't west end. You still think Jon is a playa. Dude, you rock.
I mean this in the best possible taste, of course. Now go have a nice bowl of peas porridge ('scuse me...puddin) and a pint of that brown swill that you guys piss out regularly, and dream about the big con, and tell whenwe stories about old school successes (like: When I owned Netpond...lol). Sucks to be you.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

I'm starting to think maybe Joe isn't the only person that's misinformed/retarded...


Oh well eh...

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

hahah did Nick pay you , your normal 50 bucks to come and board whore / try you silly attacks here ?

or are you just slummin it here with the misinformed?

I notice you only come to post about me ( I feel so special now)
Thank you. you have no idea how much that helps me , I hope you keep it up

But at least have him send in the varsity crew... you B- stringers kinda suck at it actually.

Re: $350 for acting in a porn flick?
 

That was your first mistake....thinking. Stop it now. Just spam more viagra and teeny sites and pretend its all legal and hope some of the spaghetti sticks to the fridge and you can make enough money to be as rich as....well Jon.
The happy has-been club welcomes you. Its just to the right of the country club, round back behind the kermit.