Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Serge,
Saudies have $800b in US bank accounts.
I would say they have close ties to most Americans in one form or another.
#2, Did you really need to see a Moore movie to have learned that ?

Any other interesting facts you found facinating ?

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Slav, you "shattered" one fascination with fact...what about other 2?

Plus..where exactly have you learned about the amount of Saudi's involvement in USA economy and WHEN?

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

ok i had to go searching for you
this is the first one i found. Its all over the web, do some research
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060...3622-3038r.htm
"government sources estimate Saudi holdings in the United States at $400 billion to $800 billion, the matter warrants public attention. "

>> 2) lack of coordination between government agencies prior to 9/11
nothing interesting about that, and not much has changed
CIA was not allowed to talk to FBI prior to 911
FBI still does not like dealing with local agencies, currently
No surpise that local agencies could not cordinate things between themselves. Turf wars are nothing new. Look at Katrina ...

3. Mike can comment on that one better than I can.


btw, Moore movie was shown in Lowes Theaters here, Lowes is owned by Carlyle Group.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Slav,
1) you just confirmed that you learned this fact from the movie, same way I did and before Moore this one plus one equals two wasn't even in your head.

2) I am not privy to what FBI and CIA really do today and their joing efforts during Katrina.

3) ..and what does it tell you? Carlyle will do ANYTHING for a buck!
;)

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

I think that claiming the Saudis "have close ties to most Americans in one form or another" is an excellent example of chutzpah, but I'm still not certain that Bush family ties to Saudi money have much to do with 9/11.

Let me rephrase that - most of the time when people start talking about 9/11 in conjunction with Bush family ties to Saudi money, I seem to detect the distinct crinkle of a tin foil hat maintained at the ready in case of stealth black helicopter attack.

There was a wall between foreign and domestic intelligence agencies put up in the 70s, when it was discovered that the two sides had engaged in some blatant abuses of their powers. The thing that gets lost in most discussions of this issue is that enormous resources were diverted from matters of importance to petty grievances and hairbrained schemes.

A reporter or editor, newspaper or magazine, author of a letter to the editor, or public speaker could become a long-term subject of interest to the FBI, for example, if they were critical of the agency or the director.

I sort of agree with Serge on one major point - I do think that both the State of Missouri and the United States as a whole would have been far better off if John Ashcroft had pursued a singing career.

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They are not. I say it's prepastrous even to suggest that.

But the fact is still VERY interesting.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

i had no idea that was in the movie actually
I saw it once at 5am and only really watched about 75% of it...
so i'll take your word for it.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Halleluya!
Don't you think, MikeAI? C'mon, show us you are not FOXed robot.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Are you telling me you learned it from me? I leanred it from the movie.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

If Mike had to pick an Attorney-General, I'll bet he'd show his bipartisanship and pick a Democrat. Woodrow Wilson's AG (Palmer) made Mitchell look like Jerry Rubin, Meese look like Teddy Kennedy, and Ashcroft look like Cindy Sheehan.

Some of the right-wing pseudofacist capitalist war monger expert worker exploiters, er, lawyers that I used to work for told me that he was a very nice man, personally.

However, these same sunsabitches once trapped me in a van listening to Rush Fucking Limbaugh for what had to be the longest two hours of my life, so ...

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

i said i read it online
years ago
It has been mentioned in many financial sites in the past as well.

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

sad to say I havent watch it yet to be honest I didnt even heard it,

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

Stacey, you are one lucky woman. What country do you live in?

Re: Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.
 

his next film is Sicko, a documentary on the american health care system

then, i kid you not, farenheit 9/11 1/2

mike he got a little preachy with 9/11, but it was a good film. roger and me was a heartbreaking look at how GM pulling out of his hometown destroyed flint. you should watch it. there is nothing sensationalist about it.