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Timon 11-30-2005 05:05 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by sudden
If a program can make $55-60 from a signup on average, there's going to be programs that pay $35 per signup upfront - why take revshare?

The only reason I can think of, would be if there was a program that converted outrageously high - and only offered revshare. But chances
are if they did convert that well, it wouldn't take long for them to arrange for a funds reserve to be able to do upfront PPS.

The one advantage of revhare is that Epoch is much better at counting than most paysite owners are :p

voodooman 11-30-2005 05:57 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Timon
The one advantage of revhare is that Epoch is much better at counting than most paysite owners are :p

Ok, here you got the THAN correct, but you failed at revhare which I believe you meant revshare.

;)

Timon 11-30-2005 06:39 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by voodooman
Ok, here you got the THAN correct, but you failed at revhare which I believe you meant revshare.

;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lisa
Damn you're slipping!

4 errors in that one sentence and you only found one?!?
You missed you're, loser, it's and off. http://oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/wwww.gif

ooohhh the burn, the pain.... I can't watch this humiliation any longer... :o

Jeremy 11-30-2005 08:12 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by voodooman
Ok, here you got the THAN correct, but you failed at revhare which I believe you meant revshare.

;)

I think he actually meant revHAIR, which is the 50-50 (60-40?) split Drav and Sarettah have done with their follicles.

Nickatilynx 11-30-2005 11:38 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Timon
The one advantage of revhare is that Epoch is much better at counting than most paysite owners are :p

If the join gets to epoch :)

MorganGrayson 11-30-2005 12:12 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Jeremy
I think he actually meant revHAIR, which is the 50-50 (60-40?) split Drav and Sarettah have done with their follicles.

WHOA! And Jeremy burns for two! :okthumb:

:burn:

I love it when usually polite, articulate men come slamming out with a burn. It's sexy as hell, frankly! :yowsa:

Dravyk 11-30-2005 01:16 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Jeremy
I think he actually meant revHAIR, which is the 50-50 (60-40?) split Drav and Sarettah have done with their follicles.

Jeremy, I used to like you at one time.

:eatme:

Jeremy 11-30-2005 01:40 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
Morgan: *burp* *scratch* *fart* huh, wassat? It's like y'know, like.... y'know? *sniff*

Drav: I was going to write that "we still wuv ooo" but I figured that probably wasn't going to make you feel any better whatsoever.

MorganGrayson 11-30-2005 01:45 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Jeremy
Morgan: *burp* *scratch* *fart* huh, wassat? It's like y'know, like.... y'know? *sniff*

Drav: I was going to write that "we still wuv ooo" but I figured that probably wasn't going to make you feel any better whatsoever.

Actually, Jeremy, I think you made *two* of us take a health plunge with that post. :blink:

You can go back to being polite and articulate now. Please. :unsure:

DannyCox 11-30-2005 01:46 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
and back when I started in 1996/1997 is this...

In 1996 the vast majority of people involved in this games ambition was to make millions a year , minimum 250k a yr.

Now the vast majority ambition is to make beer money or just around the same as they could make at a "real" job.

It is a major difference in mindset.

I would agree with you for 1997, but 1996 was a totally different time. The concept of sponsorship had just started, and very few were actually doing it. Xpics came out with the monthly percentage share of a set amount based on traffic sent, and Webpower started their $0.01 Raw Click promotion. It was very late 1996 and early 1997 when we saw the jump into higher pay-outs and PPS.

In 1996, we didn't fully understand what we had or where we were going. None of us "knew" this business as it was still in it's infancy, so we all ended up pioneering various techniques for traffic, conversion and retention. Many of which are still employed to this day. We had the handful of serious businessmen, and a lot of "Playas" (sounds like today, doesn't it) who were happy riding on the coattails of others, and making their "beer money".

With the demise of the original YNOT message board, and the proliferation of other webmaster boards, the real bullshit and cock-swinging started. The "Big Boys" were all trying to out do one another with higher and higher pay-outs, seeing huge revenue but taking a massive hit on pay-outs (just never made business sense to me). That was 1997.

I always stayed fairly quiet and behind the scenes, and have enjoyed good success all these years. My mindset in this is still the same as it was back when we started making real money; maximize revenues and minimize expenses to obtain true profit.

We still get people coming to us all the time thinking they can just throw up a website and get rich. Truthfully, I doubt the average person just coming into this today can even make beer money! People look at our success and think they can do it too. They tend to forget that we have been doing this for over eleven years now, and paid our dues those first few years. They also expect you to hold their hands, and guide them through the learning curve involved. While I'm happy to give basic advice, like most I keep the good stuff I know close to me.

I just consider myself an average "webmaster", but these days I just work on projects that hold an interest to me. My "cash cows" are out there running well, which gives me the ability to "play" with new ideas. We are still more than willing to work with others on projects, but we do tend to be selective on what we work on and who we work with.

Dravyk 11-30-2005 01:53 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by Jeremy
*burp* *scratch* *fart* huh, wassat? It's like y'know, like.... y'know? *sniff*

For a moment there, I thought Inabon was posting! :p

selena 11-30-2005 02:25 PM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy
I think he actually meant revHAIR, which is the 50-50 (60-40?) split Drav and Sarettah have done with their follicles.

Point awarded!:wnw:

sarettah 12-01-2005 12:43 AM

Re: The biggest difference between the business now
 
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Originally Posted by selena
Point awarded!:wnw:

:hmm:


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