Oprano Adult Industry Forums

Oprano Adult Industry Forums (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php)
-   Legacy Archived Main Board (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?f=25)
-   -   The Sextracker Scandal Pt3 (http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=38716)

Spw Guru 01-27-2005 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Jan 27 2005, 12:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Jan 27 2005, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW@Jan 27 2005, 12:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Dravyk
Quote:

@Jan 27 2005, 12:13 PM
Ah well, I see ST ran off. Must have hit a chord there.

I do have to say that both Chichio and TaDoW have made very good first impressions though. Hope they stick around.


we are not ST...

Like chichio I'm happy to stick around as long as you guys will have me....

I'm sorry if I made a splash when I came in, I just don't like beating around the bush.

I think Kathi said it pretty well.

You are welcome , mate.

We just usually like an idea who people are.

Welcome to Oprano. :) [/b][/quote]
LOL
Not to get off topic but.

I changed my avatar the last one of me at amateur bash in the man sandwich. TaDoW was lead bitch.

Now you have been officially introduced. He is a good guy and runs a fantastic program.

Nickatilynx 01-27-2005 11:55 PM

LOL

New posters HAVE to be pissed with!!!

Its the law.I'd like to change that , but then it would break with tradition ;-)))

Then we leave them alone and welcome them with open arms.

fuck I mean it could have been Lawrence Connor under an assumed name.

We do have some standards !!!!

;-)))


and once again , peace returned to Oprano.....

JoesHO 01-28-2005 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaDoW@Jan 27 2005, 04:54 PM
a little birdie just dropped this on my lap...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine..._adware09.html

Thanks Tim...

:okthumb:

Ruin 01-28-2005 06:35 PM

Ok, the title of this thread is Sextracker, the inside info, so I assume that's what you all want.

Disclaimer: I obviously have an ax to grind, you needn't point that out. Secondly, I am not trying to represent myself as a good guy, I currently work for an adware company.

I was at that "meeting" years ago at Nicks house with Bode. As hostile as Nick is on this board I remember him being a perfect gentlemen and a gracious host in person. I certainly enjoyed Nicks hospitality.

So lets start from the second beginning...

Flying Crocodile Inc. became FCI Inc after Andy Edmond was pushed out due to his gross mismanagement. Shawn Boday and Ross Perkins assumed the role of co-CEO's and shared Andy's former office. I had been on a forced "sabatical" for many months due to my inability to play ball with Andy. Its funny how dificult people (myself included) become when they are lied to, cheated, and not payed. Once Andy was forced out I returned to manage the advertising sales team. This was not to last as Shawn was insistent on managing advertising sales himself. So, I took over the management and marketing of Sexlist, a property I had developed with my partner and sold to FCI a few years before. It was at this time that Richard Fannin (Bama) came to the FCI offices one night to pitch a project to us. Shawn was busy so I met with him. Bama was pitching what is now known as adware. Sneaky adware. I was excited and pulled Shawn into the meeting. Shawn heard Bama out and said thanks but no thanks. We had other shit going on...

More to come.

Ruin 01-28-2005 07:02 PM

I was going to go into great detail, but I'm lazy and would really rather not do all the typing. It would be boring anyways. So I'll just kick down the facts about FCI, Avenue Media, etc...

1. FCI entered into a distribution agreement with Bama, they were to provide Bama with 1 million installs. Shawn read between the lines and noted, "the agreement does not specify where these installs are to come from!" Long story short, Bama got 1 million installs, from China and Korea.

2. While partnered with Bama, FCI had access to the admin to Bama's software. This was used by Shawn to gain valuable insight into the adware business. This access was also used to steal Richards intellectual property. When Bama declined our offer to provide additional services in consideration for a larger stake, we simply started developing our own software. Developers were given access to Bama's admin interface.

3. It was decided that this new business should be based offshore, work commenced on forming Avenue Media. Jim Finnell (CFO and one third of the FCI corporate triumverate) was pushed out at this time by Bob Kim over personal differences as well as Jim's desire to own more of Avenue than Bob, Shawn, and Ross were willing to give up.

More to come...

Mike AI 01-28-2005 07:09 PM

Amazing.

I remember when Bama showed me this product.... I told him he was releasing hell on the net.

Ruin 01-28-2005 07:23 PM

4. Unbeknownst to me (my former partner at Sexlist and I were to have 60 points on FCI/AM's adware deal) FCI had started developing a second, confidential adware product incorporating Bama's feature set, as well as additional functionality Shawn and I had come up with.

5. While a friend/business acquitance was visiting on business Shawn and I (the third person can't be identified) discussed the feasability of distributing through the p2p's as well as through viral email methods.

6. FCI had a employee (interestingly enough he's posted on this thread) working full time adding URL's into the config. These URL's would have either all, or some percentage of their traffic redirected. This list included but was not limited to the top sites on Sextracker! All this work was done from the Seattle offices of FCI, not in Caracao. The employee was on the FCI payroll.

Ruin 01-28-2005 07:45 PM

7. I think it should be noted (this is going to be a big duh to some of you) that the only reason AM was formed was to hide assets and evade taxes. As Bob Kim (the architect of all this jiggery pokery as FCI's CLO) once told me, "yeah dude, we're going to make alot of money, someones going to find out what we're up too and sue the shit out of us. Also, we don't want to pay taxes on any of this income."

My involvement with FCI ended on a sour note when I realized that they had no intention of sharing the ill-gotten gains with me. Obviously these people have bad parents who didn't teach them vital life lessons about sharing and playing well with others.

I moved on and am hated by millions of people the world over in my own right.

And hey fuckers at FCI- You pussy little maggots know who I am, I know who you are. YOU ARE A BUNCH OF COCKSUCKING LITTLE PUNKS THAT WENT FROM HIDING UNDER YOUR MOTHERS SKIRTS TO HIDING BEHIND YOUR PUNK ASS LAWYERS. YOU GET CALLED OUT BY A REAL MAN AND YOU CALL THE POLICE ON YOUR CELLPHONES IN YOUR GANGSTA SUV. YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU BITCH ASS SCOTT PERKINS. I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS SHIT ABOUT YOU BEING IN TROUBLE IS TRUE, YOU'VE BEEN SUCKING DICK ALL THESE YEARS, AT LEAST YOU'LL GET PAID FOR IT IN THE JOINT. I'LL SEE YOU FAGGY LITTLE WORMS IN HELL AND STAB YOU FUCKS WITH A PITCHFORK.

Ah. Better than sex. Gotta run, I'm late for yoga.

CuriousToyBoy 01-28-2005 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk+Jan 28 2005, 09:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Jan 28 2005, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CuriousToyBoy@Jan 27 2005, 06:04 PM
Smarter people across the board here than most other places and worth joining in.

The Oprano board is like the Boy Scouts - "Be Prepared"

Boy scouts my ass! :P [/b][/quote]
I meant in the sense of "Being Prepared" before your fingers do the walking.

The rest of the scouting tradition is unlikely to EVER be confused with Oprano.

He he.

:ph34r:

BrettJ 01-28-2005 09:55 PM

Ruin just doesn't give a fuck. that rocks

~BrettJ
www.DormBucks.com

TaDoW 01-28-2005 09:55 PM

beautiful. Fucking Beautiful.

Seattle misses you eric ... hit me up on icq if you still use it .. 10323612

hope all's well :-)

JoesHO 01-28-2005 09:58 PM

Thanks for the info Ruin..

Hope to see you around these parts more often. :D

Lord Aga 01-28-2005 10:02 PM

Bode, u are fucked.. theres a bunch of guys u pissed off that will end up finishing you :D

I have a couple of affidavits that mean you are fucked already.. and hard drives and video tapes with my lawyer too!

Biggest mistake u made was sueing the spyware company recently! cool info u gave us!

Winetalk.com 01-28-2005 10:21 PM

man oh man....!

Aga,
:okthumb:

Dravyk 01-28-2005 10:44 PM

Eric, nice seeing you! Hit me up sometime and let's chat up the olden days and such.

Ruin 01-28-2005 10:58 PM

Hey guys! You can hit me up on MS Messenger @ e_r_1263@hotmail.com

Yeah, they are fucked. They're fucked because like cockroach's, they only do well in the dark, they can't handle light being shined on their activities.

Bama 01-28-2005 11:01 PM

THANK YOU Eric for posting this information because now I have legal options for stealing my intellectual property and violating a non-disclosure. At the time you and Mark were given access to the administrative back-end - you were not employed by FCI. They violated the non disclosure. They allowed you to duplicate my admin/features on their servers hosted on their network.

That was the direction I was going down before you left the country.

If anyone else has action against FCI, Shawn Boday, Ross Perkins, Scott Perkins or Bob Kim feel free to contact me at fcilawsuit at bamas dot com. I get alot of spam so use Oprano Post as the subject line.

I have a WEALTH of information, contract proposals, emails and ICQ histories regarding this matter.

Nickatilynx - back up this thread/board, then back it up again!

I have signed Non Competes with several adult internet companies. If you have the time and desire to go after a company that you feel is distributing spyware/adware that is taking a significant amount of your income - let's talk.

There is SOOOO much more I could share - but I am not going to violate my agreements and give them a cause of action against me. 2 wrongs don't make a right - it just make 2 wrong people.

JoesHO 01-28-2005 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bama@Jan 28 2005, 08:02 PM
THANK YOU Eric for posting this information because now I have legal options for stealing my intellectual property and violating a non-disclosure. At the time you and Mark were given access to the administrative back-end - you were not employed by FCI. They violated the non disclosure. They allowed you to duplicate my admin/features on their servers hosted on their network.

That was the direction I was going down before you left the country.

If anyone else has action against FCI, Shawn Boday, Ross Perkins, Scott Perkins or Bob Kim feel free to contact me at fcilawsuit at bamas dot com. I get alot of spam so use Oprano Post as the subject line.

I have a WEALTH of information, contract proposals, emails and ICQ histories regarding this matter.

Nickatilynx - back up this thread/board, then back it up again!

I have signed Non Competes with several adult internet companies. If you have the time and desire to go after a company that you feel is distributing spyware/adware that is taking a significant amount of your income - let's talk.

There is SOOOO much more I could share - but I am not going to violate my agreements and give them a cause of action against me. 2 wrongs don't make a right - it just make 2 wrong people.

Thank you bama... welcome to Oprano. hope to see you around here more too :D

Nothing like a good friday night to meet new people I always say...

Mike AI 01-28-2005 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoesHO1+Jan 28 2005, 11:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JoesHO1 @ Jan 28 2005, 11:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Bama@Jan 28 2005, 08:02 PM
THANK YOU Eric for posting this information because now I have legal options for stealing my intellectual property and violating a non-disclosure. At the time you and Mark were given access to the administrative back-end - you were not employed by FCI. They violated the non disclosure. They allowed you to duplicate my admin/features on their servers hosted on their network.

That was the direction I was going down before you left the country.

If anyone else has action against FCI, Shawn Boday, Ross Perkins, Scott Perkins or Bob Kim feel free to contact me at fcilawsuit at bamas dot com. I get alot of spam so use Oprano Post as the subject line.

I have a WEALTH of information, contract proposals, emails and ICQ histories regarding this matter.

Nickatilynx - back up this thread/board, then back it up again!

I have signed Non Competes with several adult internet companies. If you have the time and desire to go after a company that you feel is distributing spyware/adware that is taking a significant amount of your income - let's talk.

There is SOOOO much more I could share - but I am not going to violate my agreements and give them a cause of action against me. 2 wrongs don't make a right - it just make 2 wrong people.

Thank you bama... welcome to Oprano. hope to see you around here more too :D

Nothing like a good friday night to meet new people I always say... [/b][/quote]


Welcome? He is member number 15.

Bama is REAL old school!

Ruin 01-28-2005 11:18 PM

My pleasure Bama. As for whether or not my posts were ethical or wrong, I don't give a fuck. I haven't been in the States for almost two years now. I don't plan on returning. I would have loved to hang out and sue Shawn and have Bob disbarred, spit on Ross, etc. Be that as it may, I had to get the fuck on out of there for other reasons. So there goes the lawsuit. Furthermore, I don't stay in one country for too long...I'm not worried about their legal goons catching up to me.

There used to be something called honor among theives. They opened this door when they robbed me, I'm just walking through it.

Bama 01-28-2005 11:26 PM

Eric

You know my beef isn't with you or Mark - I was saddened to see you go - but undertand why you had to.

I don't understand Shawn tho. It takes an incredibly small person to screw over the very people that rushed to his defense when he was pushed out by Andy. I don't mean me - hell, I was out the door long before they started in on the people who helped build their business. I'm pissed at me for being duped.

Get yer ass back on ICQ and hit me up 269762

JoesHO 01-28-2005 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI+Jan 28 2005, 08:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Jan 28 2005, 08:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by JoesHO1@Jan 28 2005, 11:12 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bama
Quote:

@Jan 28 2005, 08:02 PM
THANK YOU Eric for posting this information because now I have legal options for stealing my intellectual property and violating a non-disclosure. At the time you and Mark were given access to the administrative back-end - you were not employed by FCI. They violated the non disclosure. They allowed you to duplicate my admin/features on their servers hosted on their network.

That was the direction I was going down before you left the country.

If anyone else has action against FCI, Shawn Boday, Ross Perkins, Scott Perkins or Bob Kim feel free to contact me at fcilawsuit at bamas dot com. I get alot of spam so use Oprano Post as the subject line.

I have a WEALTH of information, contract proposals, emails and ICQ histories regarding this matter.

Nickatilynx - back up this thread/board, then back it up again!

I have signed Non Competes with several adult internet companies. If you have the time and desire to go after a company that you feel is distributing spyware/adware that is taking a significant amount of your income - let's talk.

There is SOOOO much more I could share - but I am not going to violate my agreements and give them a cause of action against me. 2 wrongs don't make a right - it just make 2 wrong people.


Thank you bama... welcome to Oprano. hope to see you around here more too :D

Nothing like a good friday night to meet new people I always say...


Welcome? He is member number 15.

Bama is REAL old school! [/b][/quote]
HAHA no I meant me as the new one LOL
I saw his number :D

and am glad he is here . :D

Ruin 01-28-2005 11:31 PM

Thanks Bama. You're going to make me sign up for a ICQ account.

Bama 01-28-2005 11:43 PM

You already have one 251154825 - just gotta remember your password

Now get to work midget and get it up and running - you can help me put cover sheets on the GPS reports --- uhhh yeahhh

Ruin 01-28-2005 11:58 PM

Can't remember it.

Do you still have those recordings I made with Ross and Shawn (Scott?). Either you or Jeffrey Moore has the tape. As I recall there was discussion of redirecting join pages. That is probably credit card or wire fraud. It would be great if the webmaster community that props them and their program up could hear a stream or read transcripts of that. These guys steal from everyone.

What I'd like to know is why various affiliate programs allow these guys to have an account which they payout on?

iamkathi 01-29-2005 12:03 AM

Ruin... come to Atlanta, I still owe you some biscuits and gravy...

I hope all is good for you now. I miss your crazy ass.

Bama, Roll Tide :rokk:

Ruin 01-29-2005 12:14 AM

Kathi! I'm always ok unless I'm discussing FCI.

Why did you have to mention biscuits and gravy? You're making me very hungry.

How are you? What are you doing these days?

TaDoW 01-29-2005 12:14 AM

The irony of ironies ... after how sextracker got their start ... this is how it all ends up

iamkathi 01-29-2005 12:18 AM

Lets not turn this into a SexTracker reunion.

I am with a fantastic company living in Atlanta, loving life.

Hit me up on ICQ... when you remember your password

44-909-580

Ruin 01-29-2005 12:23 AM

Tadow, yeah it is kinda ironic in a sad way. But believe or not I don't sweat these guys at all. The best revenge is to live well, I live alright. Latina chicks rock! :rokk:

Kathi, I'm glad to hear that you are doing well. You deserve it more than most. You were always very kind.

Nickatilynx 01-29-2005 12:40 AM

Eric !!!!!

great seeing you! Appreciate you posting. :)

Also on another note , if you are ever in Vancouver you are totally welcome at my house , always.

Smart , funny and good company. :)


Bama,

I think I have logs of you running it past me and that you were going to come up to Vancouver then changed your mind? Maybe I'm nuts.

Nickatilynx 01-29-2005 12:52 AM

Just caught up on all the posts...

DAMN!!!!!

Bama, I will back up these posts.

Bama and Eric are known to me , I do not doubt them in any way.

I, personally, and Oprano , as publishers ,are willing to stand behind their statements in the event of any action.

I believe that is known as saying "bring it bitch"

:)

I may have to sue Eric for saying I'm "nice" however ;-)))

CuriousToyBoy 01-29-2005 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bama@Jan 29 2005, 02:44 PM
you can help me put cover sheets on the GPS reports --- uhhh yeahhh
It's TPS reports.

Didn't you get the memo?

:biglaugh:

jimmyf 01-29-2005 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gonzo@Jan 27 2005, 02:55 PM
Confucy wants to blame Kevin Mitnick..... too bad she cant say jack shit cuz shes under a permanent restraining order.

And too chicken shit to post here...

Face it Confucy ... I personally clipped the lying lips from your face.
Your relegated to unload your mouth full of shit to the sheep at the Zoo and the idol worshippers at JustBlows!

what's JustBlows ??

Chichio 01-29-2005 10:19 PM

Ruin, I still have the grinder. I hope you remember. Hopefully our paths will cross again.

Nickatilynx 01-30-2005 06:59 PM

Along with everything else that seems to be being cleared up with Bode , could someone clue us in on the story Re Andy Edmonds.

I never got to know what the hell happened there?

Raven 01-30-2005 07:01 PM

I can always count on Oprano for entertainment, exposes and news.

Getting my popcorn ready.

Thanks, Nick.

Nickatilynx 01-30-2005 07:21 PM

My pleasure :)

Merged them for ease :)

SykkBoy 01-30-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Jan 30 2005, 07:00 PM
Along with everything else that seems to be being cleared up with Bode , could someone clue us in on the story Re Andy Edmonds.

I never got to know what the hell happened there?

Andy Edmonds may or may not have had sex with my stepsister...
very long story ;-)

Nickatilynx 01-30-2005 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy+Jan 30 2005, 04:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SykkBoy @ Jan 30 2005, 04:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Jan 30 2005, 07:00 PM
Along with everything else that seems to be being cleared up with Bode , could someone clue us in on the story Re Andy Edmonds.

I never got to know what the hell happened there?

Andy Edmonds may or may not have had sex with my stepsister...
very long story ;-) [/b][/quote]
Go on....

We have time....

:)


( pulls up a chair and grabs :popcorn: )


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:40 AM..

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Evil Empire Inc. 2006-2022