Buffy-poo, without a doubt you are the biggest fucking moron on this board.

Go back to fucking whores, historical and political analysis isn't working for you.

And if they had won the French and Indian War (not that they've ever won a single war), then we'd be living in the United Provinces of Canada, ay.

http://www.exile.ru/175/175052003.html

Verdun. Just that name was enough to make Frenchmen and Germans, the few who survived it, wake up yelling for years afterward. The French lost 1.5 million men out of a total population of 40 million fighting the Germans from 1914-1918. A lot of those guys died charging German machine-gun nests with bayonets. I'd really like to see one of you office smartasses joke about "surrender monkeys" with a French soldier, 1914 vintage. You'd piss your dockers.

Shit, we strut around like we're so tough and we can't even handle a few uppity Iraqi villages. These guys faced the Germans head on for five years, and we call them cowards? And at the end, it was the Germans, not the French, who said "calf rope."


Tours, 732 AD: The Muslims had already taken Spain and were well on their way to taking the rest of Europe. The only power with a chance of stopping them was the French army under Charles "the Hammer" Martel, King of the Franks (French), who answered to the really cool nickname "the Hammer of God." It was the French who saved the continent's ass. All the smart money was on the Muslims: there were 60,000 of them, crazy Jihadis whose cavalry was faster and deadlier than any in Europe. The French army was heavily outnumbered and had no cavalry. Fighting in phalanxes, they held against dozens of cavalry charges and after at least two days of hand-to-hand combat, finally managed to hack their way to the Muslim center and kill their commander. The Muslims retreated to Spain, and Europe developed as an independent civilization.

Orleans, May 1429: Joan of Arc: is she the most insanely cool military commander in history or what? This French peasant girl gets instructions from her favorite saints to help out the French against the English invaders. She goes to the King (well, the Dauphin, but close enough) and tells him to give her the army and she'll take it from there. And somehow she convinces him. She takes the army, which has lost every battle it's been in lately, to Orleans, which is under English siege. Now Joan is a nice girl, so she tries to settle things peaceably. She explains in a letter to the enemy commanders that everything can still be cool, "...provided you give up France...and go back to your own countries, for God's sake. And if you do not, wait for the Maid, who will visit you briefly to your great sorrow." The next day she put on armor, mounted a charger, and prepared to lead the attack on the besiegers' fortifications. She ordered the gates opened, but the Mayor refused until Joan explained that she, personally, would cut off his head. The gates went up, the French sallied out, and Joan led the first successful attack they'd made in years. The English strongpoints were taken, the siege was broken, and Joan's career in the cow-milking trade was over.

Braddock's Defeat (aka Battle of Monongahela) July 1755: Next time you're driving through the Ohio Valley, remember you're passing near the site of a great French victory over an Anglo-American force twice its size. General Edward Braddock marched west from Virginia with 1,500 men--a very large army in 18th-c. America. His orders were to seize French land and forts in the Valley--your basic undeclared land-grab invasion. The French joined the local tribes to resist, and then set up a classic ambush. It was a slaughter. More than half of Braddock's force--880 men--were killed or wounded. The only Anglo officer to escape unhurt was this guy called George Washington, and even he had two horses shot out from under him. After a few minutes of non-stop fire from French and Indians hidden in the woods, Braddock's command came apart like something out of Nam, post-Tet. Braddock was hit and wounded, but none of his troops would risk getting shot to rescue him.

Austerlitz, Dec. 1805: You always hear about Austerlitz as "Napoleon's Greatest Victory," like the little guy personally went out and wiped out the combined Russian and Austrian armies. The fact is, ever since the Revolution in 1789, French armies had been kicking ass against everybody. They were free citizens fighting against scared peasant and degenerate mercenaries, and it was no contest. At Austerlitz, 65,000 French troops took on 90,000 Russians and Austrians and destroyed them. Absolutely annihilated them. The French lost only 8,000, compared to 29,000 of the enemy. The tactics Bonaparte used were very risky, and would only have worked with superb troops: he encouraged the enemy to attack a weak line, then brought up reinforcements who'd been held out of sight. That kind of tactical plan takes iron discipline and perfect timing--and the French had it.

Jena, Oct. 1806: just a quick reminder for anybody who thinks the Germans always beat the French. Napoleon takes on the Prussian army and destroys it. 27,000 Prussian casualties vs. 5,000 French. Prussian army routed, pursued for miles by French cavalry.
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so fucking ignorant to hate an entire nation you know nothing about because some drawling redneck tells you to.

comprendez-vous?

The French lost their manhood after WWI. That war drained them a generation of young men, it has haunted the French ever since.

Forgot a few from more recent French history, Dig.

1980s: We are your ally, US. However, not only won't we help you, but don't even fly over our airspace to save your people or we'll shoot you down.

1990s: Hey US, come fight the Yugoslav war for us, cause we can't do it ourselves. Besides, we're allies right? Allies help each other, right?

2000s: Iraq? Fuck off, US. Btw, we're still your ally. Really we are.

:moon:

Dravyk, you know that is not relevant to anything! What IS relevant is what French solders did 200-1300 years ago. Learn to read...

yeah... the french.

one of their greatest war heroes was a teenaged schizonphrenic peasant girl dressed as a boy.

great.

JR, you forgot about Corporal Lebeau! Without his food distracting Schultz, that ball-bearing factory near Hamburg could never have been bombed those 18 times.

True.....BUT!

Milla Jovovich is hot...

not true..I fucked French girl once, I contributed to their genes pool
;-=)))

Hmmmm ... in the 1980s, the French never deined us access to airspace in order to "save our people." It did deny us access to French airspace for the "attack" on Lybia once it found out it was to be a one-time temper tantrum, rather than a sustained attack designed to depose Ghadafi.

In the 1990s, the reasons for U.S. involvement in the Bosnian conflict are many and varied; attributing it to some form of French cowardice takes almost Buffish intellectual contortions.

In 2002-3, the French seemed skeptical that Saddam presented a clear and imminent danger to the West. In view of the vast quantitites of WMD that have been uncovered, not to mention the evidence of Iraqi involvement in 9/11, I will leave the reader to draw his/her own conclusions as to the accuracy of the French position.

Finally...French women might shave...their armpits...

Finally...French women might shave...their armpits...[/b][/quote]
oh puuhleeze!

I fucked hairy women,
stop disriminate against them, you bloody, yanks!
;-=)))

<!--QuoteBegin-- PornoLefty@Mar 18 2004, 07:20 PM
Hmmmm ... in the 1980s, the French never deined us access to airspace in order to "save our people." It did deny us access to French airspace for the "attack" on Lybia once it found out it was to be a one-time temper tantrum, rather than a sustained attack designed to depose Ghadafi.

In the 1990s, the reasons for U.S. involvement in the Bosnian conflict are many and varied; attributing it to some form of French cowardice takes almost Buffish intellectual contortions.

In 2002-3, the French seemed skeptical that Saddam presented a clear and imminent danger to the West. In view of the vast quantitites of WMD that have been uncovered, not to mention the evidence of Iraqi involvement in 9/11, I will leave the reader to draw his/her own conclusions as to the accuracy of the French position.[/quote]

When Liberals collide; NEXT on Geraldo!

Buffy-poo, without a doubt you are the biggest fucking moron on this board.

Go back to fucking whores, historical and political analysis isn't working for you.[/b][/quote]
Joe, if I had to go through life with your brain, I would chop my own head off.

God forbid a country has an opinion that differs from that of the US, and exercises their right to pull out of a conflict. The support for the Iraq war in spain is nothing like it is in the United States. There was way more opposition. Something like 80 percent of the population.

Why do you have to go bring God into it??

Why do you have to go bring God into it??[/b][/quote]
chodadog of arc?

Why do you have to go bring God into it??[/b][/quote]
I believe that violates a U.S. patent held by G. W. Bush of Kennebunkport, Texas.

Pull out?!?! WTF do you mean "pull out"?!?!?!?

I've yet to see the fucking French go in to any form of modern warfare.

They've been a miserable armed failure for decades and even Serge's gene's aint gonna fix that....


The only good thing to come out of France was the Luftwaffe!

Pull out?!?! WTF do you mean "pull out"?!?!?!?

I've yet to see the fucking French go in to any form of modern warfare.

They've been a miserable armed failure for decades and even Serge's gene's aint gonna fix that....


The only good thing to come out of France was the Luftwaffe![/b][/quote]
Hey Trev, ya pommy moron, he was talking about Spain!

Geezus... get over your hatred of the French for a moment. You should be happy you have a country that knows how to cook just over the English Channel from you. We all know about English cuisine.

:D

Hey Trev, ya pommy moron, he was talking about Spain!

Geezus... get over your hatred of the French for a moment. You should be happy you have a country that knows how to cook just over the English Channel from you. We all know about English cuisine.

:D[/b][/quote]
The only thing I hate more than the French are fucktards like you....


and it takes some beating my hatred for the French

The only thing I hate more than the French are fucktards like you....


and it takes some beating my hatred for the French[/b][/quote]
Hahahaha!

I win!

what exactly have you won?

Eh, go make a new paysite this millenium. :P

Another rascist sterotype. Just what I'd expect from someone descended from crims. ;-)))

Britain has I believe more Michelin * restaurants than OZ or US for that matter.

(I don't think the US has any , may be wrong on that)

As for pub grub Go to the "Tickled Trout " in Kent , best food for a few quid you'll ever eat.

Nick, you are wrong,
he clearly stated he is decendant of nazi collaborators and not ordinary criminals,
please make a note of it
;-)))

I went to school in the Channel Islands. Which was occupied in WW2.

At school descendants of collaborators were still shunned.

Unfair but maybe that is what happened in Oz too , which would explain Joe6pk .

I went to school in the Channel Islands. Which was occupied in WW2.

At school descendants of collaborators were still shunned.

Unfair but maybe that is what happened in Oz too , which would explain Joe6pk .[/b][/quote]
yeap...and that explains "Let me bark at everybody" attitude
;-)))

Hahahaha!

I win![/b][/quote]
Win what? The moron of the month award?

I win too!

:rokk:

I don't like people who judge europe as one country. "Europeans" are pussies? So are the americans, no.. not the people from US, but people from both of your fucking continents are pussies. They suck at cooking too, should shave their legs and lose a couple thousand tons of lard and are almost as blind and dumb as the middle-eastern terrorists fighting for religion..

Don't you fucking love when people generalize. Fuck that. Why do people talk politics anyway, none of you people have a clue what the real agenda is for any country. Neither do I, but atleast I don't give a fuck as long as I'm not part of any war personally. I don't understand why any of you do.

I don't see the point to make my country seem like the best place on earth, nor put other countries down. Do you americans really, as a people, have such a low esteem you have to 'prove' yourself that you're the mightiest of warriors? sad. National pride is one thing, but you've overdone it so badly it's lost it's meaning.. if you for example had those american flags only on flagpoles a few days out of the year it might mean a bit more. But seeing dirty american flags tied to a pick-up truck is close to blasphemy (if you believed in god. :P). But what do I care, I don't. I just have a dull moment and wish to post. so blow me. :)

Drink some imported wine from france with some freedomfries and ketchup. Culinary dream come true.

Haters.
:salute: http://www.porngreen.com/nazi.gifhttp://www.porngreen.com/suomi.gif

All right, now, TGF ... there is an awful lot of what you say I agree with. Of particularl note is the "do you americans really, as a people, have such a low esteem you have to 'prove' yourself that you're the mightiest of warriors?" part - although I think you will find that arrogance, ignorance, immaturity, nor provincialism is hardly an American trait.

But damnit, man, you may have gone too far. I hear ya about the dirty American flags ... but if you are making fun of pickup trucks, well, that just ain't right.

TGF,
please enlighten folks about history of Finland...

Province of Tsar Russia....

given independence by Communist who killed Tsar....

Invaded by Stalin who grabbed the big chunk of Finland territory.....

Prevented by Stalin from entering the WWII on German side by promise to annex Finland and incorporate it into the USSR if they join naxies and lose....

Dry laws in 80-90 which drove thousands of Finns to Leningrad to get drunk like the skunks...

did I miss something?

Fill in the blanks...

TGF,
save yourself the trouble,
it's all here:

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/chrohist.html

how did I miss Sweeds rulling your country before Russians?
beats me
;-))))

Hmmm ... "the best defense is a good offense" theory in action, I see.

Those are interesting questions, but the answers to them don't mean shit to a tree regarding the points he was trying to make.

Hmmm ... "the best defense is a good offense" theory in action, I see.

Those are interesting questions, but the answers to them don't mean shit to a tree regarding the points he was trying to make.[/b][/quote]
are you a mind reader? let him speak for himself,
I'll beat you up later.

I win!

:rokk:

I am appealing to the Supreme Court.

My lawyer wants to know if you have ever been duck fucking with Anton Scalia, btw.

I never claimed finland to be perfect, you are claiming USA is..

about finland in MY opinion, not sure about facts;

1) We've only been independent since 1917, but you americans seem to forget that you are a VERY young country as well.

2) I take pride in being a finn, but I do not rub it on you and try to convince I'm better than you.

3) Finland is the only country after ww1 to pay their war debts in full. But after my rant I can't take credit in that. I didn't pay them. You shouldn't be judged or judge by what your fathers or their fathers have done either.
( for your pleasure ) http://www.rahamuseo.fi/english/vaihtuva.html

4) We are an independent country, and have been since 1917.. even though we've been at war after that. Many aren't.