ahhh but then you didn't have embedded journos ;-))))

Or as Saddam called them , "Inteligence Officers"[/b][/quote]
embedded journos and the companies that put them there made the world a much more dangerous place for reporters to work. Saddam certainly had a point.

So you consider the fact that there are virulent weapons and that the world is smaller and then reason this to be a more dangerous time than the Cuban Missile Crisis where the two nations with thousands of nuclear weapons each came to the brink of war?

You consider "virulent weapons" and a smaller world more dangerous than a world suffering from the Great Depression where the very foundations of capitalism itself were being challenged and questioned?

The Mexicans are being quiet.

Canada's coffee not bad either. Tim Hourton's rock :matey:

The Mexicans are being quiet.[/b][/quote]
They don't have internet access yet.



I'm have half mexican BTW,





so I have webTV. :matey:



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Are you related to Nick? B)

They don't have internet access yet.



I'm have half mexican BTW,





so I have webTV. :matey:[/b][/quote]
have half? is that like a quarter? :P

Naa... he's new, and hasn't done a whole lot of publicity quite yet but all us Canadians know him very well. He has done a wonderful job as our Minister of Finance under Jean Chretien for years. I'm sure he isn't slacking. :D

You misunderstand our bitching. We (as collective Canadians) generally prefer a [D] president for our neighbour to the south.[/b][/quote]
lol.. you just want us to have a democrat so that we have to pay more taxes... to feed and house the lazy.. and provide health care for those who blow thier money on smokes and beer instead of health insurance :awinky:

So you consider the fact that there are virulent weapons and that the world is smaller and then reason this to be a more dangerous time than the Cuban Missile Crisis where the two nations with thousands of nuclear weapons each came to the brink of war?

You consider "virulent weapons" and a smaller world more dangerous than a world suffering from the Great Depression where the very foundations of capitalism itself were being challenged and questioned?[/b][/quote]
Yes I do on both points.

I'm half French/Canadian. Glad to me you.

Yes I do on both points.[/b][/quote]
And the world is somehow smaller today than in 1964 when 1000s of ICBMs were aimed at American cities?

I do believe that is the first time I have ever been quoted in a sig before.

Is this why you don't know one leader from Angolia, Zambia, Botswana, Uruguay, Paraguay, or Puerto Rico? Limited television coverage of these countries and their cultures prevents you from learning about them?

And the world is somehow smaller today than in 1964 when 1000s of ICBMs were aimed at American cities?[/b][/quote]
Yes it is. I lived through the missile crisis and it was scarey for a couple of weeks. Then it all went away. An enemy you can see and confront is more mangeable. This enemy is a highly disciplined, invisible army that are spreading like cancer and their greatest weapon is fear. The fact that we are even having discussion proves that point. Don't get me wrong, this is not America bashing, it is survival. One step at a time.
W is also much more dangerous than Clinton, because he ain't to bright. He sees the world as black and white. The world is way more devious than this hick Texan.

Yes it is. I lived through the missile crisis and it was scarey for a couple of weeks. Then it all went away. An enemy you can see and confront is more mangeable. This enemy is a highly disciplined, invisible army that are spreading like cancer and their greatest weapon is fear. The fact that we are even having discussion proves that point. Don't get me wrong, this is not America bashing, it is survival. One step at a time.
W is also much more dangerous than Clinton, because he ain't to bright. He sees the world as black and white. The world is way more devious than this hick Texan.[/b][/quote]
And too complex to make moot statements about bravado and diplomacy.

Neither of those is black and white either.

:D

And too complex to make moot statements about bravado and diplomacy.

Neither of those is black and white either.

:D[/b][/quote]
That is exactly my point.

No, it proves you believe it and brought it up. Nothing more. I think it's ridiculous.

Then it all went away? The Cold War ended in 1964? How about the entire period from 1945-1991? Jesus.

We live in tame times compared to most of the past century.

No, it proves you believe it and brought it up. Nothing more. I think it's ridiculous.

Then it all went away? The Cold War ended in 1964? How about the entire period from 1945-1991? Jesus.

We live in tame times compared to most of the past century.[/b][/quote]
Well you just go on believing that. The cold war did not end in 64 but it was MAD time. Times have changed and MAD does not apply. There has always been conflict and struggle and there always will be. But what is different about this is that it is boxing with shadows. These people are very devious and very, very patient. And they don't like us. They especially hate Americans for their support of Israel.

I'm half French/Canadian. Glad to me you.[/b][/quote]
Bonjour.

That is exactly my point.[/b][/quote]
Really??

Yet you state "It is not the time for bravado, it is a time for diplomacy."

It is easy to speak of diplomacy when you are not an American or are only interested in seeing a different party elected.

Face it... the "invisible cells" you cite as the danger are not receptive to diplomacy as far as I can tell -- which makes it MOOT!

I like that one, its got a nice ring to it! Just rolls right off the tongue ... :blink:

Really??

Yet you state "It is not the time for bravado, it is a time for diplomacy."

It is easy to speak of diplomacy when you are not an American or are only interested in seeing a different party elected.

Face it... the "invisible cells" you cite as the danger are not receptive to diplomacy as far as I can tell -- which makes it MOOT![/b][/quote]
There are many ways to be diplomatic. You see I don't give a shit about what happens in your country when it doesn't effect me, but in this case your president's stupidity effects us all. Aw, WTF. This is like talking to a wall. No I haven't given up. I have just given up on you. No offensedude, but this is going nowhere. Believe what you like and I will too and we will see who is right. I truly hope it is you.

Why get so flustered?

If you read my posts, you would see that I have already shared an understanding with your position.

It is all relative. diplomacy to you = X. diplomacy to the next guy = Y.

You don't like GWB. You disagree with his ideology and you feel your interests are threatened -- it is reflected in your posts. It's understood.

You are convinced that you are right.

Why get so flustered?

If you read my posts, you would see that I have already shared an understanding with your position.

It is all relative. diplomacy to you = X. diplomacy to the next guy = Y.

You don't like GWB. You disagree with his ideology and you feel your interests are threatened -- it is reflected in your posts. It's understood.

You are convinced that you are right.[/b][/quote]
We agree. I know I am right. Somethings are self evident and this is one of them.

What do you hope that I am right about?

that invisible cells are bad
that they can kill us
that they do not care about diplomacy
that when your #1 you do what it takes to stay there
that when you are not #1 you are interested in seeing #1 dropped a notch

maybe I missed it.

Oh, now, wait a damn minute.

If you believe that the world is somehow a more dangerous place now than it was during any of the Berlin crisises, or during the missle crisis, or during the '73 bagel/camelshit throwing contest, you are as big a fool as the folks who think W has done much to make us safer.

We face a real and dangerous threat, to be sure - but back away from the crack pipe. It doesn't even come CLOSE to the risks of that era.

I'll sum it up for you...

your position is not unlike someone elses, just that they are on the other side.

your / their position is most affected by personal interests.

it is paralysis by analysis, so feel free to :headwall:

I like that one, its got a nice ring to it! Just rolls right off the tongue ... :blink:[/b][/quote]
I don't know why anyone would be worried about how the U.S. is regarded in holeinthegroundistan, anyway - it's a really bad choice of an example.

After tense negiotiations resulting in a 600-million-dollar aid package (which works out to about 6,000,000 per capita), holeinthegroundistan did sign on and become a member of the coalition of the willing.

otherwise know as diplomacy. LOL

Maybe Americans don't know who the Canadian Prime Minister is because they are largely ignorant.[/b][/quote]
or because they simply don't care...

isolationism all the way...let the fuckers starve & be slaughtered - aint my problem...my tax dollars shouldn't go to save the world; especially a world that think's it's better than me. Fuck em'.

best of luck -
aeon

Well I dont like either of the Bush presidents.

But I would like to take a moment to point out to the viewers that water isn't frozen at 41F. Nor does it thaw at 21F.

Back to your regularly scheduled postgramming.

Celcius makes so much more sense.

Water freezes at zero degrees and boils at 100 degrees.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Celcius makes so much more sense.

Water freezes at zero degrees and boils at 100 degrees.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee![/b][/quote]
And Celsius would make even more sense to you perhaps.

And Celsius would make even more sense to you perhaps.[/b][/quote]
Mmmmm... yes, you got me. My mistake.

Celsius it is.

and I hope you are right as well. But I don't think so PD.

Thank you and I do.

I don't know why anyone would be worried about how the U.S. is regarded in holeinthegroundistan, anyway - it's a really bad choice of an example.

After tense negiotiations resulting in a 600-million-dollar aid package (which works out to about 6,000,000 per capita), holeinthegroundistan did sign on and become a member of the coalition of the willing.[/b][/quote]
You missed the point. You should.

or because they simply don't care...

isolationism all the way...let the fuckers starve & be slaughtered - aint my problem...my tax dollars shouldn't go to save the world; especially a world that think's it's better than me. Fuck em'.

best of luck -
aeon[/b][/quote]
Now there is a peach. I could rest my whole case on thisdude. the sad thing is he is the reason W is president.

Celcius makes so much more sense.

Water freezes at zero degrees and boils at 100 degrees.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee![/b][/quote]
Shhhhhh. Don't confuse them.

Thank you and I do.[/b][/quote]
Yes, we got it. :blink: