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Dianna Vesta 08-02-2003 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Jul 30 2003, 11:20 AM
I get no all the time, then keep going. I read women like that. What woman does not want a man to take control.
There's control, hot savage- "Oh my god no, no, baby" and then "stop you fuck."

I think someone should be able to tell the difference and if you're not sure just stop for a moment and say, "Are you sure?"

You can always resume, just might take longer.

In BDSM (you've probably heard this before) we use something called, "safe words". This way you can scream, cry, plead, etc. and the action will NOT stop unless you use that normally non-sexually word. It could be something like "snow" or "mailman".

Sometimes what makes a hot scene is the expressions, the taboo nature of it. I can see why it might be hard for someone to stop while directly involved but the law is the law and no should mean no.

Almighty Colin 08-02-2003 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf@Aug 1 2003, 06:04 PM
Oh, real nice Colin, thanks for your support.
You know you always can count on me ;-)

Timon 08-03-2003 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by JR@Jul 31 2003, 04:00 PM
if a guy and girl are shitfaced and their are screwing thier brains out and its totally consensual... and the girl says half heartedly "i changed my mind" - thats rape?

Next thing you know they'll pass a law prohibiting people from having sex under influence, automatically making any man who has sex with a drunk woman a rapist.

LittleC 08-03-2003 10:17 AM

Don't you guys in USA have somthing called lie detector ???

This would also be a very usefull tool in our business !

Are you shaving ?

Do you pay your models ?

Do you abuse women ?

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Dianna Vesta 08-04-2003 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 3 2003, 09:25 AM
Don't you guys in USA have somthing called lie detector ???

This would also be a very usefull tool in our business !

Are you shaving ?

Do you pay your models ?

Do you abuse women ?

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Wouldn't that be a wonderful concept? To cut to chase and get right down to it. No bullshit, no lies, no control issues.

Now that would be a perfect world.

JR 08-04-2003 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper@Jul 30 2003, 06:51 PM

my only point was that if you create an agreement to perform act x with somebody, you cant then turn around and scream that cancelling act x half way through the job is the same as the guy forcing act x on you in the beginning..

again, not saying it's ok to continue after a "no", just saying that rape is used to define a sex act that is forced from the beginning.

to me this is more akin to a breech of contract... sexual assault maybe... rape? no.

this is how i feel exactly. i agree its wrong. i agree that a women should have the right to withdraw consent (which is the intent of the law) and i believe that in doing so, the male should stop asap.

but "rape" - i dont agree with that. especially so considering that its almost impossible to prove, has left no signs of physical abuse or forced intercourse, witnesses or other forensic evidence etc.

i also fail to see how getting tackled in the park, beaten and stripped naked and getting screwed in the ass in the most brutal way, is somehow on some level as two people having consensual sex and one of them saying at some point "i have changed my mind"

LittleC 08-04-2003 04:12 PM

I must say......for years, decades woman have been raped, abused by men and the law supported men...

women could be raped during marriage, beaten by their husbands without having the possibility to divorce.

It has been ok for men to go to brothels and wifes were needed to give birth and cook....

Now - isn't it a scary thought ....a woman can put a man in jail just by saying 3 little words...

He raped me......

Isn't it scary women will have for once the law on their side ???

when women were molested or raped during relationships, nobody was talking about forensic material / evidence...

So why shall we bother with that now ?

Lets say that 99% of the women would not say those 3 little words just out of anger.

And IF this law means that 1% innocent men will go behind bars - thats bad luck, shit happends !

Just make sure you treat your women nicely !

We have done that for years ! It's our turn now !

hehehe

PS. I say no no no no when I'm having sex But I dont mean NO. I mean something else. hehehe

:nyanya:

Hooper 08-04-2003 04:32 PM

:blink:

Vick 08-04-2003 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by LittleC@Aug 4 2003, 03:20 PM
wifes were needed to give birth and cook....


Say no more :rolleyes:

LittleC 08-05-2003 05:03 AM

haha - I love to cook anyway


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