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Hell Puppy 10-25-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 831267)
I've seen Joanna in action on a panel at a show (Cybernet '06, Tampa). She's not a good choice for a keynote speaker, trust me on this one.

yah, i was thinking the same thing.

she doesn't know industry, she just knows her little niche. and what's worse is she doesn't know what she doesn't know.

Hell Puppy 10-25-2009 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 831266)
Imagine making the first Death Wish movie today! (there is a remake in production BTW) The graphic rape scene at the beginning would get nixed right off the top! Many of the movies made in the 1960's and 1970's couldn't be done today. They would offend our sensibilities and political correctness! ;)

Let's not even get into the Academy Award Winning "The Tin Drum"...

....or blazing saddles.

EmporerEJ 10-25-2009 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSouth (Post 831276)
I have said it a million times

If you play a hooker, a stripper or a porn star it isnt mainstream, its just type casting.

That said this is the most retarded thing I have heard in a long time but oddly it doesn't surprise me. Sasha is a bit like Forest Gump, say a bunch of pseudo intellectual claptrap and people think you have some sort of intelligence....says a lot more about people than it does Sash and Forest

carry on

You know, I just saw her on the AEE2009 on G4 again, and what you're saying rings true. She is definitely full of herself, now that she "has the respect of the film industry." Somebody must'a given her a thesaurus for Christmas.

gandalfuy 10-29-2009 10:37 PM

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I think Sasha is hot!

AmeliaG 10-29-2009 11:55 PM

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I think Sasha Grey seems pretty cool, but being able to keep a head on her shoulders about being a porn star is not the same as being expert in traffic or any of the sorts of information which would get me to a panel at a trade show. I find it kind of depressing that so many of the industry trade shows are treating professional webmasters like surfer customers.

softball 10-31-2009 05:33 PM

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I only want to see her GFE movie because it was shot on a Red. I hear its junk.
Porno queens never make it in the real world.

RawAlex 10-31-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 831515)
I think Sasha Grey seems pretty cool, but being able to keep a head on her shoulders about being a porn star is not the same as being expert in traffic or any of the sorts of information which would get me to a panel at a trade show. I find it kind of depressing that so many of the industry trade shows are treating professional webmasters like surfer customers.

Well, I guess if nothing else, everyone will leave with a better appreciation of lubing before getting it up the butt.

tony404 10-31-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 831515)
I think Sasha Grey seems pretty cool, but being able to keep a head on her shoulders about being a porn star is not the same as being expert in traffic or any of the sorts of information which would get me to a panel at a trade show. I find it kind of depressing that so many of the industry trade shows are treating professional webmasters like surfer customers.

Avn seemed never to want to understand us. We were the add on they couldnt ignore because there was money there.

EmporerEJ 10-31-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 831543)
Avn seemed never to want to understand us. We were the add on they couldnt ignore because there was money there.

While there was editorial control of AVN Online with certain people, that wasn't true.

Now, it's hard to tell. We'll see with the new direction.

gonzo 11-02-2009 07:09 PM

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http://11.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kr...g4loo1_400.jpg

softball 11-03-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 831568)

I wonder why she has never said shit on any web boards considering those are the people she will be addressing. I tell you her speech will be a youtube hit. Sasha Grey, step up to the plate.

vdc-Loki 11-03-2009 10:35 AM

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ehh, not surprised at all really, They (various companies) have been TRYING (and failing) to make Sasha the next Jenna, so far I've caught her on a few cable series (Family Biz, and some reality style show about the remake of Deep Throat) and then there was her "crossover movie"

same shit diff day as always huh?

-Loki-

Toby 01-10-2010 10:06 PM

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So............

I've seen a number of reports from AEE but not one of them mentioned anything about Ms. Grey's keynote address on Friday afternoon.

Did anyone even show up to listen?

RawAlex 01-10-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vdc-Loki (Post 831587)
ehh, not surprised at all really, They (various companies) have been TRYING (and failing) to make Sasha the next Jenna, so far I've caught her on a few cable series (Family Biz, and some reality style show about the remake of Deep Throat) and then there was her "crossover movie"

same shit diff day as always huh?

-Loki-

I think you may be right, but I also think that she doesn't have the sheer star power or the overwhelming looks to truly get people interested. I don't think she brings quite enough glamour to the game. She has a picture the other day on Perez Hilton (I wonder who paid for it to be there), and she didn't look to be all that.

Did anyone attend her keynote address at all?

Evil Chris 01-27-2010 11:09 AM

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Here it is.

Part 1 - http://video.yahoo.com/watch/6762528/17573985

Part 2 - http://video.yahoo.com/watch/6762551/17574020

EmporerEJ 01-27-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833156)

Ok, someone might want to discuss "Keynote" with future speakers.
I'm afraid hearing about the "history of the adult business" from a child that hadn't yet been born when she is telling me about "how it was in the Video tape days."

I was there. And I'm not so old, that my feeble, elderly mind has clouded over.
The rest of her keynote seems to have been primarily self promotion.

I also wasn't very impressed with "the room" provided for the keynote. Would a little decoration have hurt?

I wasn't there, maybe it looked snappier in person?

(But thanks very much, for posting the video, Chris)

softball 01-27-2010 05:38 PM

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gag me with a spoon.....
The whole thing was unprofessional from the room to the talent. I agree with Emp on this. Why would this haphazard, cobbled together performance attract anyone other than consumers to see a porn girl? Jesus wept.

edit: The Camera work was stellar. It complemented the presentation.

Toby 01-27-2010 08:57 PM

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If y'all managed to endure the full 15 minutes you're better men than I.

EmporerEJ 01-27-2010 11:15 PM

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Can I get an AMEN!?!





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:kneel:



(Damn! I been waiting, like, years to use that emoticon. It's about time.)

tony404 01-27-2010 11:54 PM

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it looked like they had it at a high school auditorium. Also it looked like a small crowd.

Hell Puppy 01-28-2010 12:36 AM

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What was her point exactly?

softball 01-28-2010 12:38 AM

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So, the Oprano judges give her a solid ....say....1.5?

softball 01-28-2010 12:44 AM

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OK, I wanna know what the fuck were they thinkin'? Hey Evil, you got an opinion on this? What's the buzz in the office? Was she a hit or a miss?

Hell Puppy 01-28-2010 12:46 AM

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I'd hit it.

softball 01-28-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 833172)
I'd hit it.

Yeah, but you would also apparently fuck your palms.

Hell Puppy 01-28-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 833173)
Yeah, but you would also apparently fuck your palms.

I'm pretty good if I do say so myself.

DannyCox 01-28-2010 02:15 PM

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WOW! What was AVN thinking?? I just forced myself to watch that entire fiasco, and she was awful. Not just for herself, but for the industry as a whole. Someone over at AVN really needs to look up "Keynote Address" in a dictionary. (someone please explain to me how this was, in any way, a Keynote Address!) She should have talked about the state of the industry as it is now, and the thrust of the show. not about herself.

She spent a couple of minutes talking about the past, and the supposed way everyone used to work together (which just never happened). Then she went on about herself, her new company, and how she was going to finally make good movies! She basically shit on all the producers in the audience! In the Q&A section, she also shit on the public! This chick is poison and no one should ever let her speak again!

softball 01-28-2010 02:25 PM

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I would not hit it.
Hey Sasha Grey...get your skinny ass in here. You got some 'splainin' to do.

Evil Chris 01-28-2010 03:32 PM

Re: Sasha Grey keynote speaker at AVN show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 833176)
WOW! What was AVN thinking?? I just forced myself to watch that entire fiasco, and she was awful. Not just for herself, but for the industry as a whole. Someone over at AVN really needs to look up "Keynote Address" in a dictionary. (someone please explain to me how this was, in any way, a Keynote Address!) She should have talked about the state of the industry as it is now, and the thrust of the show. not about herself.

She spent a couple of minutes talking about the past, and the supposed way everyone used to work together (which just never happened). Then she went on about herself, her new company, and how she was going to finally make good movies! She basically shit on all the producers in the audience! In the Q&A section, she also shit on the public! This chick is poison and no one should ever let her speak again!

Dan, you should know that show has almost nothing to do with AVN. Take it out on http://www.entertainmentmerchantsassociation.org/
or http://www.vsda.org
(same place)


To the rest of you... what on earth did you expect? Some earth-shattering keynote speech from a world leader? Look, I have zero to do with AEE or who speaks there, but since everyone here has a negative outlook on it, I'd really like to know.... WHO you would have chosen to speak, and what they should speak about?

Evil Chris 01-28-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 833177)
I would not hit it.
Hey Sasha Grey...get your skinny ass in here. You got some 'splainin' to do.

LOL

She would (could!) hit you, and you'd fall. Hard.


:whistling

Toby 01-28-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833179)
...WHO you would have chosen to speak, and what they should speak about?

Just a few names that come to mind off the top of my head...

Scott Coffman

Farrell Timlake

or if you want more recognizable face

Nina Hartley

The common theme there is that they've all been in the business long enough to have some perspective on where the industry has been, where it is now, where it has succeeded, where it has failed, and where it may be headed. Those are the topics generally touched upon in a keynote address.

softball 01-28-2010 03:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833179)
Dan, you should know that show has almost nothing to do with AVN. Take it out on http://www.entertainmentmerchantsassociation.org/
or http://www.vsda.org
(same place)


To the rest of you... what on earth did you expect? Some earth-shattering keynote speech from a world leader? Look, I have zero to do with AEE or who speaks there, but since everyone here has a negative outlook on it, I'd really like to know.... WHO you would have chosen to speak, and what they should speak about?

What would anyone expect Evil? You think because we sell pornography we are a buncha morons that think the opinion of a young porn chick will in anyway be of interest to us except as a curiosity? You posted those sixth grade videos of a girl who was semi coherent on this business, so the assumption is you want an opinion.
Now that you are an employee of this company, paid to do this kind of thing....(note to self...don't use the W word) you might expect to do a little damage control. You are an oar in their boat now.
Face it....that was an embarrassing disaster of a presentation by a company that was taking the piss out of the rest of us. Total disrespect for their peers. This kind of shit will not help their business one bit.

edit: just a sidenote. apparently preparation and opportunity never even shook hands.

softball 01-28-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833180)
LOL

She would (could!) hit you, and you'd fall. Hard.


:whistling

Not too likely. I have been around that block way too many times, Evil.:whistling

Evil Chris 01-28-2010 04:23 PM

Re: Sasha Grey keynote speaker at AVN show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 833181)
Just a few names that come to mind off the top of my head...

Scott Coffman

Farrell Timlake

or if you want more recognizable face

Nina Hartley

The common theme there is that they've all been in the business long enough to have some perspective on where the industry has been, where it is now, where it has succeeded, where it has failed, and where it may be headed. Those are the topics generally touched upon in a keynote address.

I won't argue with that. My suggestion is (if you do care, and apparently you do enough to discuss this) contact the folks at vsda.org and tell them what you think.

EmporerEJ 01-28-2010 04:26 PM

Re: Sasha Grey keynote speaker at AVN show
 
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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 833181)
Just a few names that come to mind off the top of my head...


Farrell Timlake

or if you want more recognizable face

Nina Hartley

I agree with those names, or even Tera. She's managed to straddle several worlds. I know she doesn't have a "cozy" relationship with AVN, but we're all "grown-ups" here.


Nina Hartley certainly has something to say, (and would have done it eloquently,) as does the hedgehog.

Even Regina Lynn would have been a decent speaker.

Evil Chris 01-28-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 833182)
What would anyone expect Evil? You think because we sell pornography we are a buncha morons that think the opinion of a young porn chick will in anyway be of interest to us except as a curiosity? You posted those sixth grade videos of a girl who was semi coherent on this business, so the assumption is you want an opinion.
Now that you are an employee of this company, paid to do this kind of thing....(note to self...don't use the W word) you might expect to do a little damage control. You are an oar in their boat now.
Face it....that was an embarrassing disaster of a presentation by a company that was taking the piss out of the rest of us. Total disrespect for their peers. This kind of shit will not help their business one bit.

edit: just a sidenote. apparently preparation and opportunity never even shook hands.

Get your shit together rhetorical. I have nothing to do with AEE. I'm not even defending them, their show, or their choice of keynote speaker. What I am doing, however, is questioning what you would have done instead since it's all to easy to whinge about their choice. I have no "oar in their boat", and no... I'm not paid to do this kind of thing. Stop assuming you know everything about me, and what I do. Back up your negativity or button it.

Evil Chris 01-28-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 833185)
Not too likely. I have been around that block way too many times, Evil.:whistling

LOL and don't kid yourself. She would beat the livin shit outta you! :waving:

Toby 01-28-2010 04:44 PM

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My Dad can kick your Dad's ass! :rolleyes:

softball 01-28-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833190)
LOL and don't kid yourself. She would beat the livin shit outta you! :waving:

aw...why so negative Evil? Turn that frown upside down and maybe this year opportunity and Preparation H will meet......somewhere over the freeking rainbow.

DannyCox 01-28-2010 06:21 PM

Re: Sasha Grey keynote speaker at AVN show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 833179)
Dan, you should know that show has almost nothing to do with AVN. Take it out on http://www.entertainmentmerchantsassociation.org/
or http://www.vsda.org
(same place)

Isn't AEE owned and run by AVN? I had thought it was and always had been. I can't see the EMA running it, especially when they have companies like Blockbusters on their board. A number of the board members are very vocal in their anti-Porn stance.

Who is running AEE these days? It still seems to be known as "AVN Adult Entertainment Expo"


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