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Tubie28 08-19-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEnforcer (Post 819390)
Damn.. missed it all.. :>)

We can start again if you'd like? I'm getting bored again... what say you people!?

ali25extreme 08-19-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819406)
We can start again if you'd like? I'm getting bored again... what say you people!?

Not on this issue..get new material and we can go from there! Kisses

boobbucks 08-21-2008 11:30 AM

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We have stayed away from opening big boobs tubes type sites because of the copyright issues. No doubt they are money making machines. But its not fair to the other big boob producers to put their stuff up for free.

RawAlex 08-21-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by boobbucks (Post 819425)
No doubt they are money making machines.

That isn't entirely true. Tubesites (I don't run one, I am working on reports from multiple sources) are a high volume, low percentage business. Basically, you spend 10k on bandwidth, and you should in theory take in 12k of revenue. Those ratios are on a "good" one. On a bad one, you could easily swap those numbers and find yourself 20% underwater every month. Bandwidth is cheap - but movies are big files, and longer clips and such can affect the business model.

As always, my understanding is that niche tubes do slightly better initially, but the burnout factor on the content and number of sponsors is an issue. Some niches only have a handful of major paysite players, so it is rough.

The numbers on tube sites are marginally better if you are promoting your own paysite(s), mostly because you avoid the shave, lost clicks, and you control the exit consoles which can pay the bills. But even then, the programs owners that do run tube sites aren't reporting great returns, just another source of traffic that makes TGP / MGP traffic look like gold.

Toby 08-21-2008 12:13 PM

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When AEBN says that PornoTube is not a money maker for them, with all the resources they have available to monetize that traffic, it pretty much tells you what the realities are.

Tubie28 08-23-2008 12:49 AM

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RawAlex – I don’t know where you get your information but it’s wrong. In fact what you’ve said is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard.:lmao1: 10k on bandwidth with a 12k return... what the fook are you talking about! If you’ve heard this from someone who runs an adult tube site then that person is either lying or their url is the most obtuse piece of flotsam in existence. A good tube site will generate more revenue, sorry profit, than 12k per day... yes per day. Let’s say my tube site was called “FuckHerTightPussy.com” then maybe you’d only just make a profit, and that’s after you’ve spent some money on SEO. 7 letter adult tube sites, especially ones with the word “you” or “tube” in them will make you very rich very fast. Do you honestly believe that the people who run YouPorn or RedTube would do so for a 2k profit per month?

A good friend of mine had a torrent site, it got shut down like they all do eventually but it was making a regular $30,000 per month in advertising. Good adult tube sites make more than that... a lot more.

What I find funny is that nearly all people... no, all people who visit forums like this one on a regular basis and have made 1000’s of posts generally aren’t rich, successful people. They are people who either work for someone else or have a website that ticks over nicely so they can make ends meet. I’ve got to admit I do know a few millionaires that visit forums but they’re all domain related and speculation is something that’s not made.

No doubt someone will contradict what I’ve said... there is no guess work here, I don’t wear glasses and have a moustache and smell slightly of vomit, coffee and shit.



:kneel:


Good luck people!

softball 08-23-2008 02:33 AM

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sure, I'll contradict you. You are more presumption than substance. I suppose stating the obvious serves only to bump a very boring thread, but hey, its summer time and the fish are jumpin'

RawAlex 08-23-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819490)
No doubt someone will contradict what I’ve said... there is no guess work here, I don’t wear glasses and have a moustache and smell slightly of vomit, coffee and shit.


Sorry, but the facts are out there for almost all to see (and strange, I don't wear glasses or have a moustache or smell of vomit or shit... but coffee perhaps).

It's just like TGPs or MGPs, some people make a ton, most people get the shaft.

If you are making 12k a day profit, you probably shouldn't be wasting your precious time on a chat board, but rather you should be trying to duplicate your success over and over so you can be rich.

Go for it.

softball 08-23-2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819503)
Sorry, but the facts are out there for almost all to see (and strange, I don't wear glasses or have a moustache or smell of vomit or shit... but coffee perhaps).

It's just like TGPs or MGPs, some people make a ton, most people get the shaft.

If you are making 12k a day profit, you probably shouldn't be wasting your precious time on a chat board, but rather you should be trying to duplicate your success over and over so you can be rich.

Go for it.

This guy's style is very suspiciously old school Oprano......

Tubie28 08-23-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819492)
sure, I'll contradict you. You are more presumption than substance. I suppose stating the obvious serves only to bump a very boring thread, but hey, its summer time and the fish are jumpin'

If my thread is boring then why do you keep posting on it?

Tubie28 08-23-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819503)
Sorry, but the facts are out there for almost all to see (and strange, I don't wear glasses or have a moustache or smell of vomit or shit... but coffee perhaps).

It's just like TGPs or MGPs, some people make a ton, most people get the shaft.

If you are making 12k a day profit, you probably shouldn't be wasting your precious time on a chat board, but rather you should be trying to duplicate your success over and over so you can be rich.

Go for it.

Does anyone know how to read correctly? Where do I claim to be making 12k a day? All I said was “A good tube site will generate more profit than 12k per day...” I never said I was making this amount of money. The comment about smelling of vomit and having a moustache wasn’t directed at anyone, I was talking in generalities, meaning a typical forum user would be like this.

You know I'm right, you're just too scared to admit defeat.

Toby 08-23-2008 02:20 PM

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That odd stench I mentioned 5 or 6 days ago seems to be getting stronger. :eh:

RawAlex 08-23-2008 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819510)
Does anyone know how to read correctly? Where do I claim to be making 12k a day? All I said was “A good tube site will generate more profit than 12k per day...” I never said I was making this amount of money. The comment about smelling of vomit and having a moustache wasn’t directed at anyone, I was talking in generalities, meaning a typical forum user would be like this.

You know I'm right, you're just too scared to admit defeat.

So Nick, how is vancouver these days?

gonzo 08-23-2008 03:31 PM

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I only know of one person thats posted in this thread that actually works with a profitable tube site.

RawAlex 08-23-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 819513)
I only know of one person thats posted in this thread that actually works with a profitable tube site.

(and it ain't me...)

The gist I get is that the majority of the profits in tube sites have nothing to do with porn, but with volume sales of ad space. There are some sales from the porn part, but the vast majority is dating and other upsells. The reality appears to be that porn has become the free give away like music where the money is made on selling something else.

Porn companies need to wake up and say "no dating sites with our content".

softball 08-23-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819509)
If my thread is boring then why do you keep posting on it?

Read the post....the cotton is high...

softball 08-23-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819512)
So Nick, how is vancouver these days?

Nick has never lived in Vancouver....lolololol.......
and the word is he is dancin' as fast as he can.

jdog 08-23-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819514)
(and it ain't me...)

The gist I get is that the majority of the profits in tube sites have nothing to do with porn, but with volume sales of ad space. There are some sales from the porn part, but the vast majority is dating and other upsells. The reality appears to be that porn has become the free give away like music where the money is made on selling something else.

Porn companies need to wake up and say "no dating sites with our content".

I don't know of my sponsors that allow using their content to promote other sites. As I said earlier in this thread is that they don't even advertise the site they are taking the content from. The legal sites will have a link to the sponsor and maybe a 2 min clip if that saying, "This clip was brought to you by XXXXXXX.com" (example).

I know sponsors including us send out C&D's and DMCA notices all the time (daily just about), not just tube sites but file sharing sites, torrent sites and newsgroup sites. But yes these illegal tube sites are making their money off dating sites like AFF, Fling, you name it. And the terms of most sponsors is that the affiliate must use the sponsors content to promote that sponsor and that sponsor only.

But just as the music industry is having problems, so are the companies in the adult industry that have all this pirated content. It's sad and it'd be nice to see it all go away so that affiliates like you (if you're a affiliate) and others can make more money the honest way instead of these people making money illegal ways. I rank these people up there with drug dealers, never making a buck a honest way. These illegal tube site owners are no better than them.

RawAlex 08-23-2008 09:57 PM

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jdog, I will tell you the most powerful thing you can do to change things: Send a copy of the DMCA to Google and get the sites removed from the SERPs. The biggest issue at this point is that significant amounts of the SERPs are filled with tubes, torrents, and other sites that are using porn to sell other products, and to devalue porn.

Cutting the traffic down would be a good move.

Hell Puppy 08-24-2008 06:16 AM

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Tubes, schmubes....

Everyone knows the real future is mobile.

RawAlex 08-24-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 819524)
Tubes, schmubes....

Everyone knows the real future is mobile.

Yup. Nothing like a guy hiding in the back seats of city bus rubbing one out to some live cam girl. Yeah...

gonzo 08-24-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819525)
Yup. Nothing like a guy hiding in the back seats of city bus rubbing one out to some live cam girl. Yeah...

I remember the last loud mouth on here telling us all we were fucked because of mobile. We all saw how that ended.

Come to think of it...sounds a lot like the uninformed tube rhetoric Ive been reading.

Tubie28 08-24-2008 12:01 PM

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Anyway, getting back to servers...

Tubie28 08-24-2008 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819512)
So Nick, how is vancouver these days?

Vancouver? Is this some internal joke I don’t know about?

softball 08-24-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819528)
Vancouver? Is this some internal joke I don’t know about?

Yeah, its like an internal cum shot, but funnier.

Tubie28 08-24-2008 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 819524)
Tubes, schmubes....

Everyone knows the real future is mobile.

This is a joke right?

gonzo 08-24-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819527)
Anyway, getting back to servers...

What do your friends that are making 12K a day say?

RawAlex 08-24-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819529)
Yeah, its like an internal cum shot, but funnier.

... and significantly messier.

softball 08-24-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819530)
This is a joke right?

I take it very seriously. Would you care to purchase some mobile domains?
Lets discuss the 12K dudes. Do they drive Bentleys and have bad habits?

gonzo 08-24-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819533)
I take it very seriously. Would you care to purchase some mobile domains?
Lets discuss the 12K dudes. Do they drive Bentleys and have bad habits?

I hear they get little boys to spend the money mommy left them and send their ass back to england after they are broke.

Left with memories of 90 days of glory, some country club golf and a wad of G3 domains.

Reduced to asking an idiot like me for tube information.

Funny thing is - I have the answer.

RawAlex 08-24-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 819533)
I take it very seriously. Would you care to purchase some mobile domains?
Lets discuss the 12K dudes. Do they drive Bentleys and have bad habits?

No, they drive minis and can't afford their habits.

softball 08-24-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819535)
No, they drive minis and can't afford their habits.

and make up fab whenwe stories

DannyCox 08-24-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 819535)
No, they drive minis and can't afford their habits.

We have a Miata and I buy Native smokes! :okthumb:

softball 08-24-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 819539)
We have a Miata and I buy Native smokes! :okthumb:

Ah, the life blood of Akwasasne.
The revenge of the Mowhawk.

RawAlex 08-24-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox (Post 819539)
We have a Miata and I buy Native smokes! :okthumb:

A smart business man adjusts to economic times.

Hell Puppy 08-24-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubie28 (Post 819530)
This is a joke right?

Nope, I'm serious. Everytime I find the next clever idea that makes lots of money, first thing I do is go post it on the boards so everyone can oversaturate it til no one can make a penny.

So, you came to stir shit, stir it.....mate....

helix 08-24-2008 07:25 PM

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Tubesite

RawAlex 08-24-2008 08:09 PM

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The internet is a series of tubes...

softball 08-24-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 819548)
Nope, I'm serious. Everytime I find the next clever idea that makes lots of money, first thing I do is go post it on the boards so everyone can oversaturate it til no one can make a penny.

So, you came to stir shit, stir it.....mate....

Well its broonsalroond, but meynd thee divvent stomp in thon kakky, pet. Wey hew, al's tell yae this for newt, that northern accent is still naff as fuck and arrr dinna wat am ganna dee wi yae lyk, dude.

RawAlex 08-24-2008 09:10 PM

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Oprano: where men are men and sheep are scared.


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