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It wasnt much

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:yowsa: Oh? really??? ya im intersted then,
throw a number my way, and there better be some cleavage involved with this dancing

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Ill throw in the full video of AJ doing his clown preformance too....

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I got a truck full of blow up mannequins that needs to be in Miami by 3pm.
and since I pulled over at the truck stop to play with them, I'm running late now. GOTTA ROOOLLLLLL !!!
So let me know how much? :)

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One can hope?....

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The biggest issue facing the industry is poor grammar and a failure to use proper punctuation. If everyone did it right, we would all be billionaires.

Yes, this is the answer.

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AGAIN>>> cuz i feel like a broken record now, since we've been thru this before:

In a country that consist of spelling one word 5 different ways,
but pronounce it ALL the same way?
And where words spelled in one format but are pronounced or sentenced a TOTALLY different way. No where near the way spelt.
Then sorry people, I have no respect for your language from the get go.

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Oh, that's all right...it's not easy to be an American. If it were, you could all be one of US. (Get the little pun, there?)
But, we like you anyhow. You keep working at it, and maybe, one day, we'll let you in!

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GET BACK TO WORK DUDE
http://myadg.com/op-2008/gepetto2.jpg

What progression have you to show these past few months ?

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I agree with Gonzo. We've both been around for over a decade at this biz.

What I'm seeing is like in any industry there are the incompetent and the greedy who fuck up things. It's that simple.

You have people who've made tons of money in this biz only to piss it away on dope and gambling and other stupid shit instead of putting things away for a rainy day.

I never did this full time because it was so easy. Only last 18 months or so I got attacked by some assholes who if you know the story are no longer in the biz. Their shit failed and several more now owe me money from court losses. Yes you have people undermining other people but that's why you have lawyers so they can go after the fuckheads.

I had to do diagnostics and damage control over the past year and it was fun. Found some new affiliates that actually convert, new strategies, new allies. I whittled everything down to the basics and to the bone so that the final responsibility would just be me and my artwork. It's never ever failed. I can now sit back and just draw toons and do little maintenance. I'm literally only a wee bit away from retiring on this income on a default basis.

In the meantime I don't sit on my ass I still look for the next way to make more capital.

I've found so many people in this biz are full of more shit than a constipated elephant. You find out when it's time to pay. I don't even deal with people who can't back up what they say. I've spent a good six figures on legals in the past few years straightening out a few assholes in this biz and more are on the way although they don't know it til it's too late.

It was high time I started cleaning house anyway.

So for me, one's status in this biz is in direct reflection to one's willingness to take responsibility for oneself.

Bottom line, it's who you hang out with.

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:clapping:Ron Paul!:clapping:

:okthumb:

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Um.. Good luck with that :blink:

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lol.

yea.

I had to throw it out there anyway. haha.

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Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

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Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

This arguement has been going on for sometime.
First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.
While I do agree that this industry as a whole gives away way too much I hardly think that tube sites as a whole are going to destroy pay sites.

Program owners need to invest just as much effort as they do on those tours to the actual content in the members area.

Relying on a consumer to retain just because he forgets is lame when Im certain that if you give them what they expect and continue to update that monthly- the rebills will come in.

Its easier for program owners to complain that tube sites are destroying their busines than to issue a DCMA against some of these sites.

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I'll agree with that to only a small degree. Tube sites are not nearly as big a threat to niche specific paysites as they are to general hardcore paysites. The niche specific video content is somewhat limited and therefore pretty much gets lost among the general hardcore on most tube sites.

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Oh yeah, I'd better watch what I say, I forgot mama bear can see me here. :scratchin

That's why I think tube sites are just the latest phase and will end up being nothing more than marketing for sites with real content. The reason I believe this is perhaps a little crass but think about it. What is the average consumer of this product doing? What is his or her motivation for pursuing this content? Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip, then have to stop and wait while hunting for something else to put things back in business? After a while of this, I would imagine the consumer would grow tired, find a clip that they like, its source, and sign up there. Again, I could be wrong, but I think tube sites will become the next marketing strategy for paysites.

People who aren't going to pay for content, aren't going to pay for content. If it's not tube sites, it's torrents and peer-to-peer networks.

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But... many of these tube site have much longer clips. 5, 10, 20 and even 30 minutes.

There's a huge difference between legal tube sites with approved sponsor clips and illegal tube sites with clips stolen from member areas.

Legal tube sites aren't really all that much different than MGP's. Illegal tube sites are another story entirely.

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I have been on the free sites..they are a quick fix but a huge mess. Quaility is worth paying for..that is the type of traffic I want anyway..those who know what they want and like what I offer! As long as I do my job correctly I should have no problem with the competition!;)

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I have played around with various "tube" sites with Carol's videos. I have the one minute teaser's we use in the free area that I submit. These have the URL clearly on them. But how they really work I have no idea, as the problem is there is no tracking. You have to rely on people typing in the URL from what they see on the video, and you know how lazy most surfers are!

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I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

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Flash can run a blur...put the url in a window behind the active page. I can tell you I used to use that with the old asf video format MS had several years ago. It was a great way to monitize the old peer to peer traffic.

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Now THAT is funny.....
I LIKE that picture!

I think I ought to use that in my AutoBiography.

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And to respond to your comment...
Been working very hard past several months. We are VERY close to the new factory open.
We just finished painting the second floor.
Then the gears are gonna fly!
More production space, more employees, etc.