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Hammer 03-14-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelleehale (Post 808420)
Hammer, I am just pissed that right when I was going to ask you to build a membership site for me I made your black list.

C'est la vie.

To respond to your post about your kids, you're right, I don't know how old they are and made an assumption because you're far to youthful looking and beautiful for me to believe you have grown children.

:wankit:

Seriously though, your personal life is none of my business.

camandago 03-14-2008 03:21 PM

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Hey Everyone-

I am one of Shellee's KIDS
I am 22 years old and Live on my own. My name is Amanda Hayes. Out of Respect for my roomate I wont post my address on here.
After reading the post from the man aruing with my mother.. here is something for you. My mom has been an amazing mother for the last 22 years. She has taught me so much about life and I am the AMAZING woman I am today because of my mothers guidance. If it wasnt for her INTELLIGENCE and HARD WORK regardless of what business it is in... My family would not have the amazing gifts we have today.
I Understand putting your address on a message board can be dangerous, but in this case her address is everywhere from all the donations and foundations she works with. DO NOT judge my mothers parenting skills. She is 100x better at parenting than most of the people in this business are. THATS A TRUE STORY!!!!!

gonzo 03-14-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808427)
Hey Everyone-

I am one of Shellee's KIDS
I am 22 years old and Live on my own. My name is Amanda Hayes. Out of Respect for my roomate I wont post my address on here.
After reading the post from the man aruing with my mother.. here is something for you. My mom has been an amazing mother for the last 22 years. She has taught me so much about life and I am the AMAZING woman I am today because of my mothers guidance. If it wasnt for her INTELLIGENCE and HARD WORK regardless of what business it is in... My family would not have the amazing gifts we have today.
I Understand putting your address on a message board can be dangerous, but in this case her address is everywhere from all the donations and foundations she works with. DO NOT judge my mothers parenting skills. She is 100x better at parenting than most of the people in this business are. THATS A TRUE STORY!!!!!

ITS MY VEGAS WIFE!!!

miz_wright 03-14-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 808412)
On what scale???



:yowsa:


The fashion scale - a size ten fits my ass perfectly.

Wocka wocka!

Hammer 03-14-2008 03:24 PM

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Wow, I can't wait for the day when my girls are old enough to defend me on a porn board... oh wait, yes I can.

gonzo 03-14-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808430)
Wow, I can't wait for the day when my girls are old enough to defend me on a porn board... oh wait, yes I can.

Send em to Vegas. I will take them to Delmonicos too!

Hammer 03-14-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 808431)
Send em to Vegas. I will take them to Delmonicos too!

They'd rather have Krispy Kreme.

gonzo 03-14-2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808432)
They'd rather have Krispy Kreme.

Not when they get to that age.

Then they want shoes,cars and spa visits.

And Delmonicos.

Hammer 03-14-2008 03:32 PM

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Okay, I swore I'd never do this but I've decided to post my real name for the first time ever on a board anywhere.

My real name is Jacque Hammer.

Just think, I bet every one of you thought Hammer was a nickname.

camandago 03-14-2008 03:42 PM

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Hammer-
Dont worry about me defending my mom on a porn site. I WOULD DEFEND HER NO MATTER WHAT!!!!
What I respect most about my mom is that she is COMPLETELY honest about what she does and She does it with integrity. If you are so ashamed of the porn business then maybe you should find another career.

GONZO-
Yes it is your vegas wife. When do i get to see my husband again? I am missing you terribly. Love ya,
Amanda

camandago 03-14-2008 03:44 PM

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and gonzo... YES i would love some new shoes, some new clothes... and a day at the spa for me and my girlfriend.

Hammer 03-14-2008 03:45 PM

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I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

gonzo 03-14-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808437)
GONZO-
Yes it is your vegas wife. When do i get to see my husband again? I am missing you terribly. Love ya,
Amanda

Do you need a ticket to Charlotte?

Or Ill be in Atlanta next weekend.

Sexyteaser 03-14-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808430)
Wow, I can't wait for the day when my girls are old enough to defend me on a porn board... oh wait, yes I can.

They grow up fast. I have a lot to learn so forgive me for making some mistakes along the way. I desire to consult on some legislation and gain expertise to support consumer protection and affiliate marketing law.

If you had any idea of the three biggest stories that are about to break in this industry you would know that having an advocate might not be a bad idea right now and along the way a few people are making some money off my work so its a win win all the way.

By the way protection just showed up here so I think we are ok for now.

gonzo 03-14-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelleehale (Post 808443)
They grow up fast. I have a lot to learn so forgive me for making some mistakes along the way. I desire to consult on some legislation and gain expertise to support consumer protection and affiliate marketing law.

If you had any idea of the three biggest stories that are about to break in this industry you would know that having an advocate might not be a bad idea right now and along the way a few people are making some money off my work so its a win win all the way.

By the way protection just showed up here so I think we are ok for now.


I used to have an outfit kind of like that.
No cowl though... only a Krispy Kreme hat.

Hammer 03-14-2008 04:18 PM

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He's got floppy ears. Are those jammies?

mmemmer 03-14-2008 04:27 PM

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Never do anything that you don't want your name attached to or are embarassed by, sign your work with pride and take credit where it is due!

gonzo 03-14-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808447)
He's got floppy ears. Are those jammies?

POP IN LAW!

Sexyteaser 03-14-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808440)
I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

Hammer - that is only true depending on how you start and how you finish. Ordinary people don't ever do extraordinary things. So it takes great risk to accomplish something big... I like to think big and take risks and fortunately they tend to work out for me.

When I entered this business I was into the second half of my life (if I live to be 90) and had a lot of friends - I don't think one of them has turned their back on me yet over this. In fact - it is the big topic at most gatherings around here and they always want an update. Kasey who was my little sister's best friend whom I have known for 30 years became my partner. Most my friends I have known over 20 years. So I don't have to prove myself but it's no fun doing nothing with your life.

98% of children were a love child and not planned - sex is a natural integral important part of human nature. We are in different times 8 our of 10 children have been exposed to online adult material - some at school and I can't be blamed. But how many people in this business had their kids abducted or harmed - I did not know this was a big issue.

Most parents are calling me for advice and to discuss finding material their teen/kids saw online; so I have actually become a great resource for my community because of this experience.

It's all how you are positioned in your community and the conviction you have for what you do and how you do it. I am really not that stupid.

camandago 03-15-2008 12:10 AM

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Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

gonzo 03-15-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808476)
Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

And she has a pretty sweet ass.

Jace 03-15-2008 02:48 AM

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i could care less personally

but I know some people hide who they are and what they do, I don't get it, but if that is what they want I try and respect that.....until they purposely don't show me any respect, then it is all fair game

softball 03-15-2008 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 808479)
i could care less personally

but I know some people hide who they are and what they do, I don't get it, but if that is what they want I try and respect that.....until they purposely don't show me any respect, then it is all fair game

Threats. Why do you guys like you always resort to shit like this

Hell Puppy 03-15-2008 07:23 AM

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Hi.

My name is Hugh Jass.

EmporerEJ 03-15-2008 02:37 PM

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My Real Name has ALWAYS been used:

Eric J. White


I'll be damned if I'm gonna hide under a rock, or be intimidated by people that think the adult industry is a bad thing.

Come get me. I'm easy to find. I'm listed "in the book."

Forest 03-15-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808476)
Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

you GO girl!

I dont even know you but I like you

;)

softball 03-15-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EmporerEJ (Post 808499)
My Real Name has ALWAYS been used:

Eric J. White


I'll be damned if I'm gonna hide under a rock, or be intimidated by people that think the adult industry is a bad thing.

Come get me. I'm easy to find. I'm listed "in the book."

Emp, you are not exactly in the "adult business". You are a manufacturer. If publishing your real name would hurt your relationship with your loved ones, put you at risk from the local bubba sheriff, put you in danger from stalking fans, or perhaps more to the point, cost you money because of other business interests, you would not be so quick to lose money or endanger any of the above relationships and/or people. JFK tried that shit out on me once at a GFY party, and I am sorry it just doesn't fly. Pseudonyms have been used by everyone from writers to actors. The Nom de plume is a time honoured tradition. This has a lot to do with safety and business and nothing to do with morals or pride. In your line of work, none of this is a threat to you unless perhaps you are putting your bare ass and dick in front of the camera and we don't know about it. In which case, see above.

softball 03-15-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 808500)
you GO girl!

I dont even know you but I like you

;)

Ooooooh Hammer, you have a worthy opponent here.

ali25extreme 03-15-2008 02:53 PM

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My name is Alicia..as far as my last name I have stalkers!!! I am sure that they could find me if they wanted to but I changed my last name to help! I see both sides of this, why to keep it secret and why you should go all out. I am not big into the biz yet..so maybe someday later once I can hire bodyguards I will spill the beans! Until then...:hmm:

softball 03-15-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ali25extreme (Post 808505)
My name is Alicia..as far as my last name I have stalkers!!! I am sure that they could find me if they wanted to but I changed my last name to help! I see both sides of this, why to keep it secret and why you should go all out. I am not big into the biz yet..so maybe someday later once I can hire bodyguards I will spill the beans! Until then...:hmm:

You will have to be very big in the business to afford bodyguards. Don't get your hopes up. I don't mean that with any ill intent. But unless you get very lucky, it is prolly not an option.

EmporerEJ 03-15-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808432)
They'd rather have Krispy Kreme.

Don't count on Gonzo for the Krispy Kremes.....
It's like Charlie Brown's football. He promises to get you the Krispy Kremes, and at the last minute, pulls them out from under you. You go away hungry, with YOUR Krispy Kremes in HIS belly.

gonzo 03-15-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808439)
and gonzo... YES i would love some new shoes, some new clothes... and a day at the spa for me and my girlfriend.

Another threesome.
Lance is going to be so jealous again!

Sexyteaser 03-16-2008 02:01 AM

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Here is a cute photo of Mandy and Gonzo - and the friend of her's Gonzo ran off.

Attachment 277

Sexyteaser 03-16-2008 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by camandago (Post 808476)
Hammer-
Thank you for your advice, HOWEVER... I would appreciate it if you were not condecending with me. I may be 22 years old but I work 3 jobs, I am going to school to become a nurse. I have 6 brothers and 2 sisters whom I am extremely close with and am a great example for. I am SOBER and live my life based on integrity. I may be very young on a number scale but I would have to guess that I am more mature than you probably will ever be.

Besides all that she just gave a week out of her time to fly to Texas and help build a home for Habitat For Humanity.

softball 03-16-2008 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shelleehale (Post 808526)
Besides all that she just gave a week out of her time to fly to Texas and help build a home for Habitat For Humanity.

Holy shit, she could be on the fast track to becoming a saint. If she can turn water into wine, I have work for her. I also have a couple of loaves of bread for her. Just imagine what that could do to feed the hungry in America. What a kid you got there.

Sexyteaser 03-16-2008 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808440)
I'm not ashamed but I understand that the majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know us. Maybe when you get a little older you'll understand.

It's Hammertime....

Since you are talking about your personal experience here I guess we conclude that a majority of the public doesn't want to admit they know you. I am older and I do understand.

Here is some of my knowledge Verisign got their start in Adult and easily crossed over with no stigma - its a different world especially with mainstream companies using techniques adult monitized for years there is great opportunity out there and the stigma is lessened - the people still judging seem to be getting caught in hypocritical situations every day.

Now you have bigger problems as large webdesigners and seo companies (organic, widemile, searchrev, etc.) open their markets to adult companies to keep growth. For instance, a mainstream web designer just programmed an adult membership site they billed at over a million dollars. I am sure your 1400.00 clients are a different breed but are you? Are you a million dollar designer or a 1400.00 one? But, I am not smart according to you, yet I could probably get you double what you make now with just two of my contacts. Damn I could probably even arrange a merger/buy if your as good as you say; but I am sure you do this because you love it not for the money. Oh and then there's that list of people you will never to do business with.

But once again if you are concerned about "sick fucks" here and your kids - using an alias or fake name is not going to protect them better than I can protect my kids. It might take the sickos a few more minutes to get the goods on you but your kids are just as vulnerable to the disturbing concerns you have. My guess is your really disturbed about what your doing in this business and raising your kids and took it out on me. Your conflict comes from wanting to keep two seperate lives and we are all just one person no matter how you slice it. It is time to integrate.

I can get anything about anybody within minutes online - that's why the Dirty D thing and everyone questioning the arrest was laughable it was $10 to verify but an arrest record is not a guilt record. I don't think he's going to be too harmed by a repost of a story that had his real name and has been online for 5 years. Funny thing I don't even remember what his real name is and he will always just be Dirty D to me.

OMG a mother daughter tag team all over you... I actually feel bad now, once again I will say that it is my intention to get off your black list and I don't think I am doing a very good job; I am sure I am on the black black list now.

2MuchMark 03-16-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 808393)
Shellee I'm not going to argue with you because frankly I don't think you have the intelligence to make it worth my time. If you don't care anymore about your children's safety than to post your real name and address on an adult webmaster board where some real sick fucks lurk, then you're an idiot.

As for Tev's comment about being honest, that one escapes me. Because I choose to use a pen name when posting on the boards, that somehow shows that I must be dishonest and have something to hide rather than not wanting everyone in my community knowing what I do. I'm not ashamed of this business but I'll decide who I tell what I do and who I don't.


Well put, Hammer.

I would like to add my own 2 cents here and say that it really doesn't matter if people use their real names here in adult, or not.

Some people chose to use fake names for no reason, while others use it because of the way so many people publicly view the porn industry. Susie homaker likes porn, wants to make porn, but doesn't need the headache of her uppity next door neighbour finding out, at least not yet. Therefore she'll choose a fake name.

When I meet someone at a show with a name such as "Dirty D", "Hammer", "Sleazy", etc, to me, this is THEIR NAME, PERIOD. I won't judge anyone using a fake name in adult, nor will I give any bonus points to anyone who openly declares their real name either. For me, I just don't care.

All I care about is what they do, how they do business, what their product is (or how they can sell mine). That's it!

Regardless, when someone does not want to use their real name, you should respect their wishes. Why? Because it is something they want to keep private. Lots of people here have mainstream businesses, families and other interests to protect.

If you're about to do business with someone in adult, the legal names come out anyway when it comes time to write the check, right? If we are going to write a check to Hammer and his company name is Hammer, Inc, thats good enough for me.

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

Sexyteaser 03-16-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 808549)
Well put, Hammer.

I would like to add my own 2 cents here and say that it really doesn't matter if people use their real names here in adult, or not.

Some people chose to use fake names for no reason, while others use it because of the way so many people publicly view the porn industry. Susie homaker likes porn, wants to make porn, but doesn't need the headache of her uppity next door neighbour finding out, at least not yet. Therefore she'll choose a fake name.

When I meet someone at a show with a name such as "Dirty D", "Hammer", "Sleazy", etc, to me, this is THEIR NAME, PERIOD. I won't judge anyone using a fake name in adult, nor will I give any bonus points to anyone who openly declares their real name either. For me, I just don't care.

All I care about is what they do, how they do business, what their product is (or how they can sell mine). That's it!

Regardless, when someone does not want to use their real name, you should respect their wishes. Why? Because it is something they want to keep private. Lots of people here have mainstream businesses, families and other interests to protect.

If you're about to do business with someone in adult, the legal names come out anyway when it comes time to write the check, right? If we are going to write a check to Hammer and his company name is Hammer, Inc, thats good enough for me.

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

I thought you went away?

Using a fake name does not change who you are or what you do it only makes you look worst when you get found out and your real name and assumed names were used as people think you were hiding something, which is the point of this thread and everwhere it has gone.

Your not hiding anything using a fake name unless your living in the 1980's the internet and technology has made it real easy to figure out who is who.

We discovered that you Mark Prince came on here as Soundslikebullshit to stir things up, but you came up with some lame excuse when you got found out.

Supposedly you called the guy "Soundslikebullshit" (or yourself) you gave the computer to with the mac/ip matching your's and instead of having him come on here and set the record straight he has disappeared. Basic scripts can crawl the internet tracing and pulling up most of what you do online - we can even discover all the Mark Prince 2Much.net failures and victims - what do you have like a 99% failure rate with your clients and you want to brag about all the sales lately. Maybe you should work on improving their success rate before you brag about selling new licenses for something with a 99% chance of failing.

My god, with Video Secrets, Moo Cash, Camz etc any one paying you for anything even a 2Much.net license to be victimzed is throwing money in the toilet. These companies have a much larger payout and actually Pay unlike you and don't charge for a white label.

Esensual networks offers a better platform for a lot less and they don't steal either. And your little mbase thing you use to sell this whole thing if anyone wants to hear the truth about that hit me up on icq or send me a pm and Mark who takes a 35-55% fee to use from both the user and the buyer licensee is the only person that can profit and he randomly changes the percentages even though you have one rate in your contract and then takes months to fix the accounting errors - floating your money to run his company.

I think the coffin with 2Much.net in it is just getting dirt thrown on top of it with all the double talk and lies you post on here - I give you a year before your out of business and I don't think Tracy will bail you out again when she becomes aware of what your really up to. So stop insulting me and go back to bailing your company from sinking. You can say one thing on here but if you are not telling the truth you are going to get found out and are fair game.

Toby 03-16-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shelleehale (Post 808552)
We discovered that you Mark Prince came on here as Soundslikebullshit to stir things up, but you came up with some lame excuse when you got found out.

That part deserved some more emphasis. :okthumb:

Sexyteaser 03-16-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 808557)
That part deserved some more emphasis. :okthumb:

Thanks Toby...

Also I guess this does also

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I can get anything about anybody within minutes online - that's why the Dirty D thing and everyone questioning the arrest was laughable it was $10 to verify but an arrest record is not a guilt record. I don't think he's going to be too harmed by a repost of a story that had his real name and has been online for 5 years. Funny thing I don't even remember what his real name is and he will always just be Dirty D to me.


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