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Hammer 08-24-2006 05:42 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
It almost sounds like Jace has a problem with prostituion which seems strange for an adult webmaster and one that has a wife in the biz.

I don't have a problem with prostitution but unfortunately the government does. As to the difference between an escort agency and a pimp. The pimp rents out his girls for sex knowingly. The escort agency rents out their girls for 'dates' and if they decide to have sex with their 'date' later that night, that's between the girl and the 'date'.

Jace 08-24-2006 06:01 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer
It almost sounds like Jace has a problem with prostituion which seems strange for an adult webmaster and one that has a wife in the biz.

I don't have a problem with prostitution but unfortunately the government does. As to the difference between an escort agency and a pimp. The pimp rents out his girls for sex knowingly. The escort agency rents out their girls for 'dates' and if they decide to have sex with their 'date' later that night, that's between the girl and the 'date'.

you often like to read people and are wrong, that's ok though

I have no issues with prostitution, along with drugs, I think both should be legal

but I think it is silly, whether you are a government or individual, to really sit there and tell someone that an escort agency isn't a guise for a prostitution service...LOL

fact remains, girls are sent out on jobs and the leader of them takes a cut of their earnings....and before you ask, yes, I know plenty of escorts here in town, and their "pimp" takes a cut of their sex earnings, all under the guise of being an "escort"

that is like a coke dealer putting your drugs in your mailbox, but he isn't a drug dealer, he is a "postal prescription deliveryman"

Hammer 08-24-2006 10:11 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
But what I'm wondering is why that bothers you. Whatever 'guise' they put on it, if it's seen as legal, why does it matter to you? We can argue semantics all night but the law sees escorts differently than prostitutes. Obviously if an escort is caught taking money from a client to have sex with him after the 'date', then she'll be arrested for prostitution. Although I will say that we've designed many websites for escorts over the years and the good ones make $500 an hour and that's just for a dinner and the ballet or something so they don't need to hook to make big money. They make a couple grand a night going out on the arm of some rich fucker that's in town and needs a date for the night.

Jace 08-24-2006 10:49 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer
But what I'm wondering is why that bothers you. Whatever 'guise' they put on it, if it's seen as legal, why does it matter to you? We can argue semantics all night but the law sees escorts differently than prostitutes. Obviously if an escort is caught taking money from a client to have sex with him after the 'date', then she'll be arrested for prostitution. Although I will say that we've designed many websites for escorts over the years and the good ones make $500 an hour and that's just for a dinner and the ballet or something so they don't need to hook to make big money. They make a couple grand a night going out on the arm of some rich fucker that's in town and needs a date for the night.

it doesn't really bother me at all, I was just making conversation :clapping:

actually, not much in the world bothers me unless it directly affects me

congrats on finding escorts that don't turn tricks, cause the 3 sites I have designed here in town for escort agencies have been for girls that fuck....it is actually pretty rare around here to call up an escort agency and expect not to have sex for money at some point in the evening

tony404 08-25-2006 03:06 PM

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I had to chuckle at your choice of words pulling out of adult, are you going to cum all over its chest and leave lol Ive seen this coming for a while I have seen your enthusiasm slipping away for the biz and I dont blame you lots of bullshit happening. I know you will be great at whatever you do but you should find something and stick with it because thats how you really develop a career. Man if you stuck with the pastry thing you would probably have a food channel show now, you got the different type of look and a inviting way.

tony404 08-25-2006 03:16 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Running a escort business and porn are not the same thing.If a child pornographer wanted to come should we say of course its all sex its all the same thing, you even have the pornographer in your name. You don't see drug dealers going to pharmaceutical conventions,well its all drugs so they should go.

Z 08-25-2006 06:41 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
I don't think I could have answered this issue any better than y'all have.

My beef with not being invited had little to do with anyone's issues over my escort agency. It was that I had that and I was trying to get into the Internet side. Like I said above, I had a couple small sites then and was doing some affiliate stuff. I wanted to learn more, but despite my pleadings to the contrary, I was told in no uncertain terms that a "pimp" wasn't welcome at a convention.

As far as the difference between a pimp and an escort service - Pimps string girls out on dope, slap them around, intimidate them, fuck them and in general, treat them like work animals. My agency offered health insurance, financial planning, cell phones, pre-paid legal services, child care, personal website design and promotion, etc. Our clients were executives, judges, doctors, lawyers, priests and couples, not low-life shitbirds looking for a $20 hand job in the car, in an alley. I never fucked even one of the girls who worked for me, never allowed dope anywhere around the office, nor allowed high or drunk girls to work and was nothing but professional with them and the clients.

That's the difference. :okthumb:

softball 08-25-2006 07:18 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z
I don't think I could have answered this issue any better than y'all have.

My beef with not being invited had little to do with anyone's issues over my escort agency. It was that I had that and I was trying to get into the Internet side. Like I said above, I had a couple small sites then and was doing some affiliate stuff. I wanted to learn more, but despite my pleadings to the contrary, I was told in no uncertain terms that a "pimp" wasn't welcome at a convention.

As far as the difference between a pimp and an escort service - Pimps string girls out on dope, slap them around, intimidate them, fuck them and in general, treat them like work animals. My agency offered health insurance, financial planning, cell phones, pre-paid legal services, child care, personal website design and promotion, etc. Our clients were executives, judges, doctors, lawyers, priests and couples, not low-life shitbirds looking for a $20 hand job in the car, in an alley. I never fucked even one of the girls who worked for me, never allowed dope anywhere around the office, nor allowed high or drunk girls to work and was nothing but professional with them and the clients.

That's the difference. :okthumb:

I do think you run a straight up business that I have no trouble with and like the rest of us here, make your money out of sex. But here is the definition of a pimp:

Pronunciation: 'pimp
Function: noun
: one who derives income from the earnings of a prostitute usually by soliciting business

or as a verb if you like:
v : arrange for sexual partners for others

I would say that about covers your line of work. May as well be proud of it. Apart from a few on this board, we have all accepted that we all sell sex.

Z 08-25-2006 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical
I do think you run a straight up business that I have no trouble with and like the rest of us here, make your money out of sex. But here is the definition of a pimp:

Pronunciation: 'pimp
Function: noun
: one who derives income from the earnings of a prostitute usually by soliciting business

or as a verb if you like:
v : arrange for sexual partners for others

I would say that about covers your line of work. May as well be proud of it. Apart from a few on this board, we have all accepted that we all sell sex.

These days, on the other hand...I'm simply an advertiser. Just like the yellow pages, newspapers and nearly every other form of media in the world. I just allow escorts to advertise their services. I derive income from the men who want to pay to contact them.

That makes me a...well, an advertiser.

softball 08-25-2006 07:33 PM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z
These days, on the other hand...I'm simply an advertiser. Just like the yellow pages, newspapers and nearly every other form of media in the world. I just allow escorts to advertise their services. I derive income from the men who want to pay to contact them.

That makes me a...well, an advertiser.

OK, well try this one: Panderer
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp.

Dude around here we are all in a similar line of work one way or another. I don't think its a bad thing.

Z 08-25-2006 11:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rhetorical
OK, well try this one: Panderer
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp.

Dude around here we are all in a similar line of work one way or another. I don't think its a bad thing.

I don't think it's a bad thing either. But our personal opinions aside, both "pimping" and "pandering" are criminal offenses in the US. So, stick with me potzer...:waving:

I'm an advertiser. I don't furnish clients for anything illegal, nor provide contact information for people who do anything illegal. Especially nothing like prostitution.

I have nothing to do with anything save publishing information that one person chooses to make available to others. What they do is their business and theirs alone. I'm told that all monies exchanged are for time and companionship only. Anything else that occurs is an independent decision between two consenting adults that has absolutely nothing to do with me, my site or any related to it.

:okthumb:

softball 08-26-2006 02:53 AM

Re: I am slowely starting to pull myself out of the adult industry...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z
I don't think it's a bad thing either. But our personal opinions aside, both "pimping" and "pandering" are criminal offenses in the US. So, stick with me potzer...:waving:

I'm an advertiser. I don't furnish clients for anything illegal, nor provide contact information for people who do anything illegal. Especially nothing like prostitution.

I have nothing to do with anything save publishing information that one person chooses to make available to others. What they do is their business and theirs alone. I'm told that all monies exchanged are for time and companionship only. Anything else that occurs is an independent decision between two consenting adults that has absolutely nothing to do with me, my site or any related to it.

:okthumb:

I am sticking with you. However, I would find another avenue of discussion in public. Good luck to you. I wish you well. Its an honourable occupation.


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