Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

BTW I have been on Interclimax for 3 and a half years now. I have done very well with them.

As for Jaymancash and myself... I think, well Some things are just not meant to be. I wish them all the best.


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Well obfuscation is your long suit Trev. If you are going dredging, I just have to look at the company you keep and do business with. And that would about say it all, old son.
As for Sabby, she has her own demons to bury now. Hopefully she will finally realise that she is not cut out for this business and no amount of scammers will pull her out of the fire. That would include you.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Fuck I needed it!!!


spaz

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Its common in these parts.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Well obfuscation is your long suit Trev. If you are going dredging, I just have to look at the company you keep and do business with. And that would about say it all, old son.
As for Sabby, she has her own demons to bury now. Hopefully she will finally realise that she is not cut out for this business and no amount of scammers will pull her out of the fire. That would include you.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

No answers on Netpond either... looks like some of them bought domains too...
http://www.netpond.com/showthread.ph...0&page=1&pp=20

So very sad.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

People love drama. Human nature. It's the thing the keeps bad reality tv shows going strong. It's hard not to stop and stare at a train wreck.

However, Sabby's trying to do business. Maybe made a few mistakes along the way, most of us have. But she's always been somewhat of a regular here on Oprano regardless of who the owner du jour is. Anyone still actually trying to do real business in adult should be welcome here and encouraged not gloated upon when they have a setback.

Pick yourself up and figure out what your next move is Sabby.

From the cheap seats down here in FFN-land, the relationship with jayman based upon his other sites didn't really seem to "fit". And the tours just didn't seem to carry any of the same psychology that you use to lure guys into your cam shows. A mistake IMO.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

I'd never seen the site but just clicked on it. Who wrote the text? I saw more typos than I could believe. I wasn't able to view any photos -- guess it's a good thing I'm not ready to sign up, because I'm one of those surfers who disables both javascript and Flash, so if I was looking for a MILF site, you'd have lost a customer.

Why oh why won't more webmasters realize that simple is best and not everyone wants all the bells and whistles?

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Yep. That and I think they took on a few too many projects than they are capable of handling.


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

:whistling


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

It's a real pet peeve of mine for a lot of reasons. When I began with sites, webTV was a big thing, and I quickly learned to make my sites as simple as possible so everyone could view them.

I can't tell you how many sites I can't view due to Flash or Javascript. I have had a few sites want to be reviewed and when I visited their page to sign up, Firefox would crash due to the Flash, and if I asked if they had a non-Flash page (many will do this, the smart folks) they would simply say no -- no brains to offer to sign me up so I don't crash, either.

I admit I don't know you or your niche, Sabby, but only know you from The Pond. My advice (unsolicited, for what its worth) is to contact Sheri Santiago of Wild West Cash since she has a lot of success with extreme girl sites. She's a porn chick with a good head on her shoulders (now is the time for the guys to chime in about her boobs).

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

:okthumb: http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=47845


spaz

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I have been banging this drum for years. There is a need for speed on a website. It has to load fast, be uncomplicated, and simply navigable. Who cares if it looks all of this and all of that? If it sells, it is great design. However, Sabby herself has beat me up over my "ugly" web design for years, so I think this advice will fall on deaf ears.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Well other than all the obvious shit that doesnt work right on it, I think its much to morbid and "butchy" looking. And I am anything but. It should be way more femme.

And I am not extreme enough to be considered extreme. (have you seen some of the extreme sites, lol). "kinky" is a better term.

This might be all hindsite though I really dont think I have the energy to get back on the horse again. I make really good money on cam still and I think I would like to just do that, play with my traffic a bit, and kick my husbands ass out into the real world to get a job. I'm tired of being around him 24/7. He talks to much.

LOL.


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

My first host told me in 1995 to KISS, because not all systems were compatible, and since a huge majority of my surfers were webTV folks, I learned to be as simple as possible.

I did the design on one of my paysites myself, except for the logo. It's very basic, very plain and does very well.

Surfers tell me they don't care about the glamour and glitz, they want to see the pussy.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Ive loved, Ive laughed and cried.
Ive had my fill; my share of losing.
And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.

To think I did all that;
And may I say - not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me,
I did it my way.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Sabby, can I be the first to publicly state:

YOU ARE FUCKING PSYCHO

every time I read your posts I get this feeling that just by reading what you type that you are going to call me at wierd hours of the night to harass me and then end up breaking into my house to slit your wrists in the bathtub while drinking a gallon bottle of vodka

(just to be clear, this actually did happen to me once)

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

break out the cam... that shit would go viral overnight! LOL


spaz

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Damn, I am glad I am not the only one to clock this internet psycho lunatic. You really don't want this chick stalking and harrassing you. It gets unnerving.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Tonights entertainment is being brought to you by "Jace" from http://www.TabithasToybox.com and "Sabby" from http://www.sabby-vanryan.com/.
A special thanks goes out to GonZo for providing us with a forum http://www.oprano.com for tonights knee slapping hi-jinks that is to soon follow.
Early seating is not required.
Feel free to bring your own snacks and alcoholic beverages.
Now sit back, relax, and enjoy the show!

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Actually you very rarely cross my mind.

And besides I think I'm more homicidal than suicidal. ;)


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Sure, Sabby....how many freeking posts have you made here and countless other boards about me? You are freeking obsessed and you admit you are homicidal. And now the inevitable has happened you have tanked yet another business. Sucks to be you.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Okay boys I'm outta here now. The only way any of you guys seem to be able to get a girl to talk to you is if you annoy her relentlessly, lol.

Bye! kisssssssssssssssss.


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Whoopee. Dancing a jig. Ding dong the witch is dead. It took longer than expected, but damn it was worth the wait. CYA, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
And btw, you ain't the only slag on the heap. I wouldn't be insulting these fine gentlemen. But not to worry, you gone.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Welcome to the new Oprano where it's not ok to pick on a clueless newbie running their mouth, but it is perfectly ok to beat the shit out of long time members when they're down. :okthumb:

Good show Jace and Rhetorical (aka about a dozen other names). That sure was constructive criticism I saw going on there.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

wibble

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Shove it psycho boy.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

wibble

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Sarettah has a damn good point here. I for one was and am fully on the bandwagon of being open to newbies posting here in a friendly enviroment. While I can have no possible idea what has transpired between Sabby and a few of the other posters here I do hate to see someone with as much experience as she has go away... angry or not.
I can only imagine how much help she could have been if say another hot noob babe strolled in looking for advice about doing cam shows... from what I have gleened sabby did pretty good at that...


spaz

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OMG, Rhetorical has been banned so many times from this board that it borders on pathetic that he kept coming back for more abuse. His rantings and ravings and claims of glory have been laughable from day 1. And it was literally the first day he started posting here that he got called out for the whacko he is.

Sabby has always kept her wits about her and has honestly been a LOT more tolerant towards his following her around than I would be.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

so, ok, let me get this straight

a girl can come into the porn scene, start a solo girl site, let people invest thousands of dollars into promoting her, then just shut her site down for whatever reasons, and that is ok and we want her to "stick around"?
to me, starting something and having people invest in it, then pulling out and costing people tons of money is almost as bad as flat out scamming....sorry if you and the owner of your program didn't get along...waaaahhh, cry me a fucking river..this is a business.

I think it is fine to run sabby off, I think she was a bit annoying and know it all at times, and plain and simple she cost people money by being a flake.

if you all want some kickass female cam show professionals on here, I can definitely round some up, it ain't that hard considering there are like 100k+ of them out there

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

definitely bring em.. the more the merrier as always.

I must have missed the part of this thread where it was stated that Sabby cost Jayman thousands of dollars.. it all seemed quite amicable from this side of the screen.


spaz

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I never said that

I know at least 5 people personally that bought tons of domains to promote sabby, plus they spent tons of time throwing links up and doing graphics and shit...she cost webmasters money, and who knows howmuch more money to come from people that don't read boards or log into the affiliate system

it is one thing to throw your site up and leave it up for 5-6 months then decide it isn't for you...but to put your site into a established program that has a solid rep all around, then a month later decide you don't wanna do it anymore? that is fucked up

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

I would say just a few webmasters put in a little work to promote Sabby

http://www.google.com/search?hs=Vil&...an&btnG=Search

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Uh right Peaches. I have only been banned here by scammers (Trev, Nick, Serge). And you have it wrong....as usual....she has been harrassing me for years. Get it straight. As for whacko....you seem to be in and out of the business like a freeking revolving door and in and out of companies the same way. I have always had my feet firmly on the ground. So just because I am good at what I do and you are sort of ok at board whoring, I am not quite sure what you mean by whacko. I always tell the truth and you lie like a sidewalk when it suits you. So over to you miss queenof the web. BTW how's the medical receptionist course coming along?

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

She is a total nut bar. Always was. Always will be. I just stumbled across this, but it kind of says it all:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sabby
This 1.49 Madonna should hang her head in shame after this fiasco. Hopefully this will be the last site she crashes. This chick has a long history of failure and why anyone would fund her is beyond me.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Oh, this hasn't been a full on old school beat down like the hazing that most people used to have to endure to ever gain respect around here.

Far far far from it. Her skin's gonna need to be a little thicker me thinks. Folks asked what happened....a legitimate question since she'd been here looking for traffic.

Her and rhetorical have been feuding forever. I would point out the new Oprano has an ignore feature.

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Jace sweetie... I personally promote nscash and have gotten a few sales to them in a short time. If tabitha had tits I would send her ALL my traffic just to compensate you.

Maybe I will just pull my nscash links.

I was my own best affiliate.

Affiliate traffic for sabbyvanryan.com will be redirected to the other jaymancash sites. I do not own the domain. Does this really concern you? Are you a jaymancash affiliate?


Sabby:flash:

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

Now that is funny. LOL

Re: Sabby Van Ryan gone from jaymancash?
 

I sure am "sweetie", he is one of the few solo girl programs that I send traffic to that isn't a porn star niche program

I have been an affiliate of his since day one of being opened....and when jayman and I got to hang in florida it made me even more sure of promoting his shit, he is one of the few down to earth people I have met in this biz.

I can't speak for the entire nscash program because I have no ties to them except that our site is in there, but as far as our site goes you can do whatever you feel necessary....it won't concern me one way or the other.

once again, I am glad you have this enourmous stock pile of traffic to play with, you must be rolling in money from all the sales you are doing.....but that isn't the situation at hand. The bottom line is that you bailed and left people high and dry, that is a horrible thing to do and I hope you just plan on being a cam model forever, because if you ever try and do a site again, no one will trust ya

I am sure you will be fine though since you are apparently the queen of all traffic....LOL